XCR1250 Posted May 30, 2022 Share Posted May 30, 2022 Biden calls 9mm ‘high-caliber weapons,’ suggests banning them Bradford Betz Mon, May 30, 2022, 2:32 PM Joe Biden 46th and current president of the United States President Biden on Monday took aim at 9mm handguns, appearing to suggest that the "high-caliber weapons" ought to be banned. The president made the remarks outside the White House after returning from a visit to the site of a mass shooting in Texas where 21 people, including 19 elementary school children, were killed last week. Recounting a visit to a New York trauma hospital, Biden said doctors showed him X-rays of gunshot wounds. "They said a .22-caliber bullet will lodge in the lung, and we can probably get it out — may be able to get it and save the life. A 9mm bullet blows the lung out of the body," Biden said. "So, the idea of these high-caliber weapons is, uh, there’s simply no rational basis for it in terms of self-protection, hunting," Biden added. "Remember, the constitution was never absolute." "You couldn’t buy a cannon when the Second Amendment was passed," Biden said. "You couldn’t go out and purchase a lot of weaponry." The president, however, ruled out the possibility of issuing an executive order on guns, saying: "I can’t dictate this stuff." UVALDE, TEXAS - MAY 26: A memorial is seen surrounding the Robb Elementary School sign following the mass shooting at Robb Elementary School on May 26, 2022 in Uvalde, Texas. According to reports, 19 students and 2 adults were killed, with the gunman fatally shot by law enforcement. Photo by Brandon Bell/Getty Images More "I can do the things I’ve done and any executive action I can take, I’ll continue to take. But I can’t outlaw a weapon. I can’t change a background check. I can’t do that," he said. Biden’s comments were in line with his tough stance on guns during the 2020 presidential campaign. Speaking during a fundraising event in Seattle in November 2019, Biden said he supported the Second Amendment but called absolutist arguments about gun-rights "bizarre." "Why should we allow people to have military-style weapons including pistols with 9-mm bullets and can hold 10 or more rounds," he said. The 9mm round is the most popular handgun caliber in the United States, accounting for well over half of all handguns produced in 2019, according to Shooting Industry magazine. The data showed that throughout the 2010s, 9mm pistols made up more than 40% of all pistols produced in the United States – or roughly four in every ten pistols. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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spin_dry Posted May 30, 2022 Share Posted May 30, 2022 We should all be moving to 10mm Sigs anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USA Contributing Member $poorsledder$ Posted May 30, 2022 USA Contributing Member Share Posted May 30, 2022 Not just Biden but his handlers, tell him to stick to the speech and when it's done just turn around and walk back inside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted May 31, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 31, 2022 Clearly that retard was thinking of 9mm +p+ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member EvilBird Posted May 31, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted May 31, 2022 "Why should we allow people to have military-style weapons including pistols with 9-mm bullets and can hold 10 or more rounds," Biden the Sniffer said. Here in Connecticut after Sandy Hook they already made it illegal/Class D felony to have over 10 round magazine. I had to purchase new magazines just to keep my pistols "legal". And of course it did absolutely nothing to stop Gun Violence here, there was several shootings over the weekend. Criminals dont use legal Guns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 What is the appropriate size round for self defense? I know Biden thinks all you need is a double barrel shotgun that you can just fire into the air to scare away any threats. He's a regular Steven seagal that guy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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XCR1250 Posted May 31, 2022 Author Share Posted May 31, 2022 9mm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkisNH Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 13 hours ago, spin_dry said: We should all be moving to 10mm Sigs anyway. Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted May 31, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 31, 2022 (edited) I love how liberals have adjusted the 2nd to not include protection from police or govt. if the time comes. Seems to me they forget how the amendments were written specifically to protect us from acts/actions/laws of the govt. Its the entire premise of the bill of rights....not between fellow citizens. Edited May 31, 2022 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 12 minutes ago, Highmark said: I love how liberals have adjusted the 2nd to not include protection from police or govt. if the time comes. Seems to me they forget how the amendments were written specifically to protect us from acts/actions/laws of the govt. Its the entire premise of the bill of rights....not between fellow citizens. Liberals want to defund the police. GOP’ers want to load em up with more tactical stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 48 minutes ago, SkisNH said: Why? Why not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted May 31, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 31, 2022 1 minute ago, spin_dry said: Liberals want to defund the police. GOP’ers want to load em up with more tactical stuff Valid point which I can only say not all conservatives do. Police do play a role and I'm not against them in general for obvious reasons. They must however be kept in check. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 32 minutes ago, Highmark said: Valid point which I can only say not all conservatives do. Police do play a role and I'm not against them in general for obvious reasons. They must however be kept in check. Cops will fuck you and abuse your rights at the drop of a hat and do it consistently. Check? They need to be retrained to respect the citizenry. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 6 minutes ago, Snake said: Cops will fuck you and abuse your rights at the drop of a hat and do it consistently. Check? They need to be retrained to respect the citizenry. The policing forces of this country are designed to be comprised of low intellect people who will follow orders. They don’t want people who will act conscientiously when ordered to violate someone’s rights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted May 31, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 31, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Snake said: Cops will fuck you and abuse your rights at the drop of a hat and do it consistently. Check? They need to be retrained to respect the citizenry. Agreed that there is a problem and agree that much retraining is needed. They should have mandatory reporting on police misconduct just as teachers do on child abuse. Edited May 31, 2022 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkisNH Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 1 hour ago, spin_dry said: Why not? Well the FBI already tried it...they found that in order to maintain speed and accuracy they had to lighten the loads. Hence, back to 9mm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 13 minutes ago, SkisNH said: Well the FBI already tried it...they found that in order to maintain speed and accuracy they had to lighten the loads. Hence, back to 9mm 10mm exceeds 9mm in every category as far as I know. Maybe you lose a little because of felt recoil but idk. The 10mm +p loads got harder than a 45acp as I recall and carry better speed much farther out. Just speaking from memory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkisNH Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 6 minutes ago, f7ben said: 10mm exceeds 9mm in every category as far as I know. Maybe you lose a little because of felt recoil but idk. The 10mm +p loads got harder than a 45acp as I recall and carry better speed much farther out. Just speaking from memory Yes, they hit harder...but second and third shot follow up suffer due to recoil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 1 minute ago, SkisNH said: Yes, they hit harder...but second and third shot follow up suffer due to recoil. That makes some sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertising Member Seatofmypants Posted May 31, 2022 Advertising Member Share Posted May 31, 2022 2 hours ago, f7ben said: That makes some sense. FWIW I have a P220 in 45 and 10.....the 10 is pretty spicy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 12 minutes ago, Seatofmypants said: FWIW I have a P220 in 45 and 10.....the 10 is pretty spicy. I suppose it certainly makes a difference if you need to quickly engage multiple targets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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