Poor Biden

[XCR1250]

Biden and Democrats Should Be Absolutely Terrified by New Poll Numbers

 

 

 

 

Matt Lewis

Thu, April 14, 2022, 7:03 PM

 

 

 

 

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In Ernest Hemingway’s The Sun Also Rises, a character is asked how he went bankrupt. “Gradually, then suddenly” is the reply.

This formulation might also help explain how it feels to lose an election. President Joe Biden’s collapse of popular support has been so long coming that a new Quinnipiac poll showing him with just a 33 percent approval rating (!) was greeted mostly with yawns.

Dig a little deeper, though, and things are even scarier for Democrats.

 

Biden is polling at a dismal 24 percent approval among Hispanics (with 54 percent disapproving). And while his numbers among African-Americans are still above water at 63 percent, his numbers have fallen almost 20 percentage points since last April.

This poll may constitute a new low, but it’s no flukey outlier. The trends are clear. NBC News recently compared polling from 2018 (a great midterm year for Dems) with its own 2022 polling—and college-educated women are the only cohort that has become bluer. (Conversely, NBC News found a “pronounced [Republican] shift among men of 20 points,” as Steve Kornacki noted.)

So why is this all happening, and what does it all mean? Let’s unpack this.

There are a lot of theories about why Hispanics have soured on Biden, but let’s just start with a few choice cuts.

Many Hispanics work in the service sector, and were disproportionately harmed by lockdowns (a policy that is more likely to be associated with the Democratic Party). Some Hispanics came to America from socialist countries with political repression and failed economies, and thus, aren’t fond of the Democratic Party’s increasingly socialist tilt. And some are repelled by the party’s “woke” politics. For example, many Latinos really don’t like the word “Latinx.” And there is polling to suggest that Hispanic Democrats were especially turned off by “defund the police” rhetoric.

What about Black Americans? One theory holds that Biden’s failure to pass progressive legislation, like a voting rights bill or police reform, is to blame. But there really isn’t any data to suggest that Black voters prioritized these goals. Likewise, Biden’s slide with Black Americans started before his legislative failures. (Interestingly, it seems more plausible that Biden’s vaccine mandates might actually have something to do with this decline.)

The main explanation, though, is probably a simple one: Hispanics and African-Americans—like a lot of us—are worried about inflation.

As Democratic pollster Jay Campbell told CNBC, “Cost of living has just blown everything else, including COVID, out of the water. And part of the reason for that is, there are attitudes about the economy that are largely a partisan phenomenon,” Campbell said. “That is not the case with inflation, or at least not right now. It is the top issue for Democrats, independents, and Republicans.”

This makes even more sense when you consider that inflation hurts low-wage Americans worse than anyone, and a disproportionate percentage of minorities belong to that economic cohort. As a result, some formerly reliable Democratic voters may be prioritizing their “working class” status over their racial identity.

To understand just how dangerous this attrition is for Dems, consider that only about 37.5 percent of Americans have a bachelor's degree, and that about 60 percent of Americans are white (about 65 percent of whites did not graduate from college). Because non-college educated whites have been strongly trending toward Republicans, Democrats have to over-perform with everyone else just to keep pace. It’s not enough to win college graduates and minority voters—the margins matter. And Joe Biden isn’t delivering.

Further complicating the problem is that the most predictable quick-fix solutions might actually deepen Democrats’ long-term problems.

If you assume that college-educated women are your core base, what do you do or say to juice their turnout numbers? And if you assume that minority votes are vital to prevent an electoral tsunami, what (aside from actually fixing inflation) do you say or do?

 

It’s a Catch-22. The quickest way for Democrats to boost their numbers may be to do or say progressive things that would ironically perpetuate their long-term decline.

In this regard, Democrats are sort of like a man lost at sea who finally decides to quench his thirst by drinking saltwater. And if the Democrats are out to sea, Biden deserves much of the blame.

Upon winning office, Biden promptly ignored the “Biden coalition” that got him elected, and tried to become the second coming of LBJ. The disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan came on his watch, and that seems to have begun his polling decline. Similarly, Biden’s policies and rhetoric likely contributed to a range of problems, including inflation and the border crisis. And lastly, Biden’s inability to effectively lead or inspire as a public speaker makes it very hard for him to change the current trajectory.

With his approval ratings hitting a new low, Joe Biden had better hope that April is, indeed, the cruelest month of the year. We were already expecting a complete wipeout for Dems, come November. Make no mistake: It could get even worse.

[Skidooski]

All through the last presidency there were multiple threads per week with Approval number and tracking the "lies"

Now with Biden in we get nothing from those people    

[ArcticCrusher]

From 81 million to complete wipe out.  

Let's go Brandon.

[Angry ginger]

how do blacks think he's not a complete POS?  shows we prob should not let them vote as they are clearly even dumber as a collective than the average american.  

 

 

[$poorsledder$]

2014 he wins by 20 gazillion votes!

[DriftBusta]

2 hours ago, Skidooski said:

All through the last presidency there were multiple threads per week with Approval number and tracking the "lies"

Now with Biden in we get nothing from those people    

What, you mean Trump didn't lie 66,234 times?!    

[racer254]

The sad part is he will may still get the 81 million votes, because election fraud is real folks and people who voted for biden don't care.

[XCR1250]

2 minutes ago, racer254 said:

The sad part is he will may still get the 81 million votes, because election fraud is real folks and people who voted for biden don't care.

Thought I read some months ago that all 50 states checked and rechecked the election votes and every state said there wasn't any large fraud to make a difference in the Presidential results and that's with most States being Republican.

 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_states_and_blue_states

[racer254]

33 minutes ago, XCR1250 said:

Thought I read some months ago that all 50 states checked and rechecked the election votes and every state said there wasn't any large fraud to make a difference in the Presidential results and that's with most States being Republican.

 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_states_and_blue_states

Oh, I don't think there were fraudulent votes, I believe that there was "ballot harvesting" to stuff the ballots.  Absentee drop boxes that were used due to covid and election procedures that were allowed because of covid caused it.  It only took 20,000 votes to change Wisconsin.

[XCR1250]

2 minutes ago, racer254 said:

Oh, I don't think there were fraudulent votes, I believe that there was "ballot harvesting" to stuff the ballots.  Absentee drop boxes that were used due to covid and election procedures that were allowed because of covid caused it.  It only took 20,000 votes to change Wisconsin.

Didn't they check all that, ya know names and addresses? 

[racer254]

2 minutes ago, XCR1250 said:

Didn't they check all that, ya know names and addresses? 

LOL  Yeah right.  You know they can't check that and there really is no way to prove it.  The people doing this know full well that there is no way to prove who voted for which candidate and thus they can get away with it this time.  They are trying to stop those absentee drop boxes as they shouldn't be legal.

[XCR1250]

Just now, racer254 said:

LOL  Yeah right.  You know they can't check that and there really is no way to prove it.  The people doing this know full well that there is no way to prove who voted for which candidate and thus they can get away with it this time.  They are trying to stop those absentee drop boxes as they shouldn't be legal.

Doesn't your name appear on the absentee drop box ballots? dunno.

[XCR1250]

Here's Wisconsin:

Wisconsin absentee ballot rules

 

You must include a copy of your ID with this form unless you are living in a nursing home or care facility, indefinitely confined, a disabled citizen, a military voter, or an overseas voter. Check our Voter ID Laws page for a list of acceptable forms of ID.

 

COVID-19 info

• COVID-19 (Coronavirus Disease 2019), Wisconsin Department of Health Services

• Any registered Wisconsin voter may apply for an absentee ballot and vote by mail.
• When voting by mail, you must submit a copy of a valid photo ID with your vote by mail application (unless a copy of your ID is already on file). A list of valid IDs is available below.

Where's my ballot? Track your Wisconsin ballot

Get your Wisconsin absentee ballot

 

[$poorsledder$]

Every vote counts... even the ones that don't give a shit about voting.  Harvesting has always gone on to an extent.  Political parties calling people offering a ride to the booth whit a free coffee or lunch.  Trip to the nursing homes to help the residents vote.  Now it's mail in and drop off boxes, hell just do it on the internet.  Don't need an ID... tell me there is no cheating.

I don't think there was enough to turn the last election but someday it might.  If they catch voter fraud hold the people responsible with a big fine and jail time.

 

  

[racer254]

Just now, XCR1250 said:

Doesn't your name appear on the absentee drop box ballots? dunno.

For the 2020 election fellow residents were allowed to return the absentee ballots of fellow voters.

These are just voters like you or I, these are people who have figured out ways to commit fraud without being illegal.  Basically, I could drop off an absentee ballot, filled out by YOU,  in a drop box.  Sounds ripe for easy fraud.  And of course they all were checked.  So, an official goes in to a hospital, nursing home, etc.  Gets a list of the patients and makes sure they filled out an absentee ballot.  Same can happen with mental institutions, prisons etc.  They have been taught how to do this.

[racer254]

1 minute ago, $poorsledder$ said:

Every vote counts... even the ones that don't give a shit about voting.  Harvesting has always gone on to an extent.  Political parties calling people offering a ride to the booth whit a free coffee or lunch.  Trip to the nursing homes to help the residents vote.  Now it's mail in and drop off boxes, hell just do it on the internet.  Don't need an ID... tell me there is no cheating.

I don't think there was enough to turn the last election but someday it might.  If they catch voter fraud hold the people responsible with a big fine and jail time.

 

  

It only really took about 60,000 votes to turn the last election.  Don't let these others say it would take millions, those are the ones that are telling a story.

[XCR1250]

3 minutes ago, racer254 said:

For the 2020 election fellow residents were allowed to return the absentee ballots of fellow voters.

These are just voters like you or I, these are people who have figured out ways to commit fraud without being illegal.  Basically, I could drop off an absentee ballot, filled out by YOU,  in a drop box.  Sounds ripe for easy fraud.  And of course they all were checked.  So, an official goes in to a hospital, nursing home, etc.  Gets a list of the patients and makes sure they filled out an absentee ballot.  Same can happen with mental institutions, prisons etc.  They have been taught how to do this.

So the fraud can be done by either Party, Dems & Pubs and no one will know, so how can anyone positively decide which Party did the most cheating if any?

[racer254]

1 minute ago, XCR1250 said:

So the fraud can be done by either Party, Dems & Pubs and no one will know, so how can anyone positively decide which Party did the most cheating if any?

Yep it sure can be done by either party.  But if you will notice, in Wisconsin R's are fighting against things that make it easy for fraud, where as dems are fighting for it????  WHY?

[XCR1250]

1 minute ago, racer254 said:

Yep it sure can be done by either party.  But if you will notice, in Wisconsin R's are fighting against things that make it easy for fraud, where as dems are fighting for it????  WHY?

I haven't read about that yet, can you find a link? I'd like to see who's doing what. I chum around frequently with some pretty staunch Pubs in this County, even go SXS riding with a few.

[racer254]

Just now, XCR1250 said:

I haven't read about that yet, can you find a link? I'd like to see who's doing what. I chum around frequently with some pretty staunch Pubs in this County, even go SXS riding with a few.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/fate-absentee-ballot-drop-boxes-trial-wisconsin-supreme-court-case-rcna24089

When going to a few local republican meetings in my county, I started to realize that the left is SO FAR AHEAD when it comes to election tactics.  Hell, the local leader here is a very good speaker, but unfortunately he is a blond hair, blue eyed scandinavian that would never win a federal election just because of his looks.  The left is just so far ahead.  Take a look at people like rachel dolezal.  The perfect example of a leftist that would do anything to get in power and while I would like to think of her as a fringe leftists, I think she is more starting to become the norm for the tactics they use.

[Guest]

Me personally, I believe the voters hated Trump. Everyone seems to forget the only reason Trump got in was not because he was good, but because the alternative was Hillary's gunt. 

Same with Biden, a fukkin bastid, but only slightly less hated than Trump. 

You're all fighting over the better of the turds!!  

[Pete]

1 hour ago, racer254 said:

The sad part is he will may still get the 81 million votes, because election fraud is real folks and people who voted for biden don't care.

Ppl who didn’t vote for Biden don’t care..

[XCR1250]

30 minutes ago, racer254 said:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/fate-absentee-ballot-drop-boxes-trial-wisconsin-supreme-court-case-rcna24089

When going to a few local republican meetings in my county, I started to realize that the left is SO FAR AHEAD when it comes to election tactics.  Hell, the local leader here is a very good speaker, but unfortunately he is a blond hair, blue eyed scandinavian that would never win a federal election just because of his looks.  The left is just so far ahead.  Take a look at people like rachel dolezal.  The perfect example of a leftist that would do anything to get in power and while I would like to think of her as a fringe leftists, I think she is more starting to become the norm for the tactics they use.

Just got off the phone with 1 of our Pub leaders in this area.

[$poorsledder$]

More people voted because they were spoon fed a ballot and a #2 pencil.
 

Dems won because they got the ordinary lazy slobs that never vote to do it.

Media told you what you wanted to hear and who to vote for to get it, Democrats got the key states to focus on mail ins and drop boxes and got the voter turnout the needed. 
 

Is this cheating? No, but it shows you how a vote can be won. 

[Snake]

4 hours ago, Angry ginger said:

how do blacks think he's not a complete POS?  shows we prob should not let them vote as they are clearly even dumber as a collective than the average american.  

 

 

Approval from blacks, while high, is down 20 plus points.