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The corruption cost how many military deaths from the fake WMD reports of THAT war? Vietnam...oh that too. But trumpers get their feewings hurt over bad things said about their guy. 

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Why would they apologize? They knew what they were doing and weren't sorry when they did it. They need to be arrested, tried and then shot if guilty. Otherwise we will just get more. Shoot them on prime time television also. 

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3 minutes ago, Anler said:

Who wants to bet Biden has a major "health event" before his term is up? 

I'm quite surprised he's lasted this long. Trump ushered in the age of a president saying stupid shit....so there is that. 

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1 minute ago, spin_dry said:

I'm quite surprised he's lasted this long. Trump ushered in the age of a president saying stupid shit....so there is that. 

I really think an age cap should be in place for govt officials. 67 and older disqualifies you from service. 

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2 minutes ago, SkisNH said:

I can't believe shit stains like Adam Schiff are aloud to lie with impunity....right along with the main stream media. 

His crazy, Andy Kaufman eyes drove trump crazy. For that he was worth the price of admission. 

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6 minutes ago, SkisNH said:

I can't believe shit stains like Adam Schiff are aloud to lie with impunity....right along with the main stream media. 

Adam Schiff comes from old money, not a surprise. 

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CIA applies lessons from Iraq 'debacle' in information battle over Russian invasion of Ukraine

 
ZACH DORFMAN
March 23, 2022, 4:00 AM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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In February, amid Russia’s unprecedented military buildup on Ukraine’s borders — and the Biden administration’s equally unprecedented strategy of actively declassifying intelligence gathered about Russia’s intentions to invade its neighbor — national security adviser Jake Sullivan took a question at a White House press briefing about the credibility of the U.S. during the crisis.

How, asked a reporter, could the public trust the U.S. government’s claims about Russia’s intentions in Ukraine given how it had used faulty intelligence to justify the 2003 invasion of Iraq?

Sullivan seemed to anticipate the query. There was “a fundamental distinction” between the disclosure of intelligence in the run-up to the Iraq War and with Ukraine and Russia today, answered Sullivan. “In the situation in Iraq, intelligence was used and deployed from this very podium to start a war,” Sullivan said, referring to the administration of former President George W. Bush. “We are trying to stop a war, to prevent a war, to avert a war.”

The U.S. would continue to operate “in good faith and share everything that we know to the best of our ability while protecting sources and methods,” said Sullivan.

As this interchange revealed, the use — and abuse — of intelligence to justify the U.S. invasion of Iraq has cast a long shadow over U.S. politics, sowing distrust in America’s intelligence community and wider national security bureaucracy.

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White House national security adviser Jake Sullivan. (Yuri Gripas/Abaca/Bloomberg via Getty Images)

And, fairly or not, no U.S. spy agency was more closely associated with Iraq-related intelligence failures than the CIA. Former CIA Director George Tenet’s reported characterization that the evidence showing Iraq possessed weapons of mass destruction (WMDs) was a “slam dunk” is now immortalized in American politics as a kind of shorthand for hubris and the capacity for official deception.

Though Iraq still lingers in the American consciousness, the CIA finds itself in a very different, and more salutary, position today regarding the intelligence battle over Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.

Current U.S. strategy has also placed great weight on the intelligence community. “It’s the first time since Iraq and WMDs where the public has been asked to trust the agency during a major foreign policy crisis,” said Jeff Asher, a former CIA analyst.

Indeed, unlike with weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, the agency’s and the wider intelligence community’s analysis about Russia’s intentions to attack Ukraine (though not the reported prognostications of a quick rout of Kyiv) have been widely borne out. And its warnings about Russian “false flag” operations being used as a pretext for war look prescient, as Russia continues to float baseless theories about a potential Ukrainian chemical weapons attack.

The lessons that led to today’s successes were hard-won, experts told Yahoo News. Over the years, the agency’s analytic corps absorbed the failures surrounding 9/11 and the “debacle” of the Iraq War, said Asher, the former CIA analyst. In fact, studying how the CIA went astray in its analysis of both events is now used as a training module for agency analysts, he says. “Those lessons are sort of built into the analytic culture” at the CIA now, Asher said.

 
 
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24 minutes ago, spin_dry said:

I'm quite surprised he's lasted this long. Trump ushered in the age of a president saying stupid shit....so there is that. 

 

14 minutes ago, spin_dry said:

His crazy, Andy Kaufman eyes drove trump crazy. For that he was worth the price of admission. 

 

10 minutes ago, spin_dry said:

Just like trump

 

9 minutes ago, spin_dry said:

You have to admit, it was pretty funny how worked up he got Donald and his followers. 

:lol: I mean does he just weigh on your mind 24/7?? Holy shit

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13 minutes ago, spin_dry said:

You have to admit, it was pretty funny how worked up he got Donald and his followers. 

Funny? He put the country through he'll. He knew there was nothing and he and the dims divided the masses to the point of no return.

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2 minutes ago, SkisNH said:

Funny? He put the country through he'll. He knew there was nothing and he and the dims divided the masses to the point of no return.

Trump deserved Adam. Its a karma thing. Maybe you felt like it was hell. I just chuckled. 

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