Snake Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 Russian President Vladimir Putin would not have invaded Ukraine had President Trump still been in office, a majority of Americans said according to the results of a new poll. The survey released Friday from the Harvard Center for American Political Studies (CAPS)-Harris Poll found that 62% of Americans believed Putin would not have pulled the trigger if Trump were still president, The Hill reported. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Rigid1 Posted February 26, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 26, 2022 I think Biden's predictability is what lead to the invasion, We all know Trump had zero predictability and he proved that to Vlad in Syria with the killing of the 22 Russians Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted February 26, 2022 Author Share Posted February 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, Rigid1 said: I think Biden's predictability is what lead to the invasion, We all know Trump had zero predictability and he proved that to Vlad in Syria with the killing of the 22 Russians Thought it was 200? That, and the abject destruction of General Salami put the fear of God into a lot of tin pot dictators... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Rigid1 Posted February 26, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 26, 2022 1 minute ago, Snake said: Thought it was 200? That, and the abject destruction of General Salami put the fear of God into a lot of tin pot dictators... I'm not a 100% on the #, I thought it was 22 but a very well could be wrong.. And I agree on the 2nd paragraph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted February 26, 2022 Author Share Posted February 26, 2022 6 minutes ago, Rigid1 said: I'm not a 100% on the #, I thought it was 22 but a very well could be wrong.. And I agree on the 2nd paragraph Either way, a message was delivered... and received... loud and clear. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 Trump called Putin a genius. By the looks of things, Putin ain't no genius Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted February 26, 2022 Author Share Posted February 26, 2022 You've chosen to ignore content by spin_dry. Options Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted February 26, 2022 Author Share Posted February 26, 2022 6 minutes ago, Rigid1 said: I'm not a 100% on the #, I thought it was 22 but a very well could be wrong.. And I agree on the 2nd paragraph Either way, a message was delivered... and received... loud and clear. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member Kivalo Posted February 26, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted February 26, 2022 I'm not convinced that Putin would not have invaded had Trump been in office but I am convinced that our response would have been different. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Rigid1 Posted February 26, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, Kivalo said: I'm not convinced that Putin would not have invaded had Trump been in office but I am convinced that our response would have been different. I can agree with that 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USA Contributing Member $poorsledder$ Posted February 26, 2022 USA Contributing Member Share Posted February 26, 2022 We’ll see if Putin was a genius soon enough, if Europe is still buying Russian gas in the future I would say he didn’t do to bad. we should have shut that down when he crossed the border. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 20 minutes ago, Kivalo said: I'm not convinced that Putin would not have invaded had Trump been in office but I am convinced that our response would have been different. Most likely. Trump's lousy relationship with EU leaders would've made it difficult to pull together a coalition for across the board sanctions. That would've left Trump with two options. Scolding Putin verbally or sending in troops and air power. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member ViperGTS/Z1 Posted February 26, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 26, 2022 The chaotic weak withdrawal from Afghan didn't help either...statement from Russian official: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHADOSPRIT Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Snake said: Russian President Vladimir Putin would not have invaded Ukraine had President Trump still been in office, a majority of Americans said according to the results of a new poll. The survey released Friday from the Harvard Center for American Political Studies (CAPS)-Harris Poll found that 62% of Americans believed Putin would not have pulled the trigger if Trump were still president, The Hill reported. He was hoping poopie pants Joe would just go hide in his basement! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gold Member Kivalo Posted February 26, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted February 26, 2022 23 minutes ago, spin_dry said: Most likely. Trump's lousy relationship with EU leaders would've made it difficult to pull together a coalition for across the board sanctions. That would've left Trump with two options. Scolding Putin verbally or sending in troops and air power. I doubt it, I think those sanctions would have occurred with Trump(perhaps in spite of). I also think we would bombing the ever loving shit out of Russian ground forces as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, Kivalo said: I doubt it, I think those sanctions would have occurred with Trump(perhaps in spite of). I also think we would bombing the ever loving shit out of Russian ground forces as well. So Trump would've called for a direct confrontation with Russian troops? Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member Kivalo Posted February 26, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted February 26, 2022 Just now, spin_dry said: So Trump would've called for a direct confrontation with Russian troops? Why? I doubt we'd have boots on the ground, certainly not large scale. But we for sure would be launching missiles and dropping bombs. We would also be arming the Ukrainian military and populace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Rigid1 said: I'm not a 100% on the #, I thought it was 22 but a very well could be wrong.. And I agree on the 2nd paragraph No one knows how many mercenaries were embedded with Syrian troops. They were part of Russian's version of Blackwater. That might be a stretch because they're less structured and equipped than Blackwater. I'm guessing a handful were embedded. They capture and hold oil facilities over run by extremists. They get a cut of the proceeds. The Americans were held up at a Conoco oil depot out in the middle of no where when they were attacked. It was a bad day for the other guys. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 5 minutes ago, Kivalo said: I doubt we'd have boots on the ground, certainly not large scale. But we for sure would be launching missiles and dropping bombs. We would also be arming the Ukrainian military and populace. They already are armed with a plethora of American weapons. There's a quarter billion dollars more American weaponry heading their way. One thing America is never shy about is giving out weapons. iSIS got a shit load from Obama. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member Kivalo Posted February 26, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted February 26, 2022 1 minute ago, spin_dry said: They already are armed with a plethora of American weapons. There's a quarter billion dollars more American weaponry heading their way. One thing America is never shy about is giving out weapons. iSIS got a shit load from Obama. Yep, and we'd be sending more. They have a shit load of Russian weapons, too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Kivalo said: Yep, and we'd be sending more. They have a shit load of Russian weapons, too. It seems to always come back to bite us in the ass. Maybe we'll get it right one of these times. Here's what's so odd. When China was funneling in arms to Afghanistan, US senators were losing their shit. Now we're doing the same, but it's supposed to be different. Edited February 26, 2022 by spin_dry 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member Kivalo Posted February 26, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted February 26, 2022 16 minutes ago, Kivalo said: Yep, and we'd be sending more. They have a shit load of Russian weapons, too. Its good business for Congress to give away weapons and get kickbacks in the process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 27 minutes ago, spin_dry said: They already are armed with a plethora of American weapons. There's a quarter billion dollars more American weaponry heading their way. One thing America is never shy about is giving out weapons. iSIS got a shit load from Obama. And yet, democrats are constantly trying to disarm the American populace. Why is that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1jkw Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 Based on Trumps comments about Crimea who knows what he would have done and maybe the scumbag Putin wouldn't have invaded. I think Putin saw the division in this country and the fact that the US is sick of war as his opportunity. We will see how it shakes out, Nato and our allies will be far more likely to work with Biden than Trump IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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