spin_dry Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/ukrainian-minister-says-russia-has-lost-about-2-800-servicemen-in-attacks-2789846 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted February 25, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 25, 2022 Don’t think this is going how Putin had expected. The Ukrainians are fighting hard for their country. Now reports of Putin in bad health Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Danger Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Skidooski said: Don’t think this is going how Putin had expected. The Ukrainians are fighting hard for their country. Now reports of Putin in bad health I wonder if the EU sees this as an opportunity to be rid of Putin? Yes he is dug in like a tick but even Putin might not survive a failed military campaign. All the EU would have to do is send weapons (Mostly anti tank and anti air) and sneak them real time intelligence or Russian troop movements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted February 25, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 25, 2022 19 minutes ago, Carlos Danger said: I wonder if the EU sees this as an opportunity to be rid of Putin? Yes he is dug in like a tick but even Putin might not survive a failed military campaign. All the EU would have to do is send weapons (Mostly anti tank and anti air) and sneak them real time intelligence or Russian troop movements. I would think they’d have done that sooner but everything seems to be coming a day late and dollar short. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Danger Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, Skidooski said: I would think they’d have done that sooner but everything seems to be coming a day late and dollar short. The EU has no way of driving Putin's poll numbers down to Biden levels without him taking some sort of action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Danger Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 again how many of these do the Ukrainians have? on paper they should have a few hundred but who knows. If the US has been flooding them in there and every soldier with an IQ above 4 ends up with one things could go poorly for the Russians. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Rigid1 Posted February 25, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 25, 2022 (edited) Guy on the ground for Fox is refusing to give any #'s, says there is so much propaganda going on with both sides he has no idea what to believe...... I'd think that is the best way to go about it. Or you can just sit on a computer for your retirement and post propaganda to satisfy a God complex.................... Edited February 25, 2022 by Rigid1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted February 25, 2022 Author Share Posted February 25, 2022 34 minutes ago, Rigid1 said: Guy on the ground for Fox is refusing to give any #'s, says there is so much propaganda going on with both sides he has no idea what to believe...... I'd think that is the best way to go about it. Or you can just sit on a computer for your retirement and post propaganda to satisfy a God complex.................... Gives you something to read on a Friday night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted February 25, 2022 Author Share Posted February 25, 2022 2 hours ago, Skidooski said: Don’t think this is going how Putin had expected. The Ukrainians are fighting hard for their country. Now reports of Putin in bad health It's all bullshit. All country's do this. Remember when Jessica Lynch was captured by the Iraqis. The American military said that she fought bravely until captured. Exhausted her last magazine. I regular female Rambo. Truth is, she was knocked unconscious in her truck. She never fired a shot. So if it wasn't enough that she was badly injured and brutally raped by countless guys, she had to deal with the lies the military told about her. What a fucking outfit the military is. Unreal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Danger Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 5 minutes ago, spin_dry said: It's all bullshit. All country's do this. Remember when Jessica Lynch was captured by the Iraqis. The American military said that she fought bravely until captured. Exhausted her last magazine. I regular female Rambo. Truth is, she was knocked unconscious in her truck. She never fired a shot. So if it wasn't enough that she was badly injured and brutally raped by countless guys, she had to deal with the lies the military told about her. What a fucking outfit the military is. Unreal. It has to do with moral of the troops. A good story can go along way in a fox hole. See Vasily Zaitsev.. Right now there is a story of a Ukrainian fighter pilot nicknamed the Ghost of Kiev. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted February 25, 2022 Author Share Posted February 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Carlos Danger said: It has to do with moral of the troops. A good story can go along way in a fox hole. See Vasily Zaitsev.. Right now there is a story of a Ukrainian fighter pilot nicknamed the Ghost of Kiev. Andy Stumpf was part of the SEAL team that rescued her. He and his team members were disgusted by the fake story. Didn't inspire them at all. It also added to the trauma that Jessica experienced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Danger Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 6 minutes ago, spin_dry said: Andy Stumpf was part of the SEAL team that rescued her. He and his team members were disgusted by the fake story. Didn't inspire them at all. It also added to the trauma that Jessica experienced. Basilone was haunted by his fame and legend more than likely got him killed as he really did not need to go back to the front lines. I am not saying war is pretty i am just saying these stories always pop up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted February 26, 2022 Author Share Posted February 26, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Carlos Danger said: Basilone was haunted by his fame and legend more than likely got him killed as he really did not need to go back to the front lines. I am not saying war is pretty i am just saying these stories always pop up. I understand that. There's an adequate and authentic amount of heroism and selflessness in any war. There's really no need to gin something up. I should correct myself. It probably wasn't the military. Most likely comes from the civilian side of the ledger. Edited February 26, 2022 by spin_dry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Danger Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, spin_dry said: I understand that. There's an adequate and authentic amount of heroism and selflessness in any war. There's really no need to gin something up. I just see it as more organic in origin in most cases. Yes sometimes the brass or political leaders embellish to much but many times it is much closer to the boots on the ground that tell each other bed time stories in a fox hole. Gabreski, Bong, Yeager were all famous inside of their own community of fighter pilots mostly by word of mouth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 5 hours ago, Rigid1 said: Guy on the ground for Fox is refusing to give any #'s, says there is so much propaganda going on with both sides he has no idea what to believe...... I'd think that is the best way to go about it. Or you can just sit on a computer for your retirement and post propaganda to satisfy a God complex.................... Ouch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 (edited) It sure is interesting watching and listening to what is being said by many different people. Edited February 26, 2022 by racer254 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted February 26, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 26, 2022 13 hours ago, spin_dry said: It's all bullshit. All country's do this. Remember when Jessica Lynch was captured by the Iraqis. The American military said that she fought bravely until captured. Exhausted her last magazine. I regular female Rambo. Truth is, she was knocked unconscious in her truck. She never fired a shot. So if it wasn't enough that she was badly injured and brutally raped by countless guys, she had to deal with the lies the military told about her. What a fucking outfit the military is. Unreal. They're now into day three when it was expected to only take 48 hours to get Kyiv. I think Russians are meeting more resistance then they thought they would. Maybe they are trying to save infrastructure and civilian lives, I don't now. Power, water and internet etc still functioning. Hearing locals there say the Russians can't fight at night was interesting to say the least Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted February 26, 2022 Author Share Posted February 26, 2022 2 hours ago, Skidooski said: They're now into day three when it was expected to only take 48 hours to get Kyiv. I think Russians are meeting more resistance then they thought they would. Maybe they are trying to save infrastructure and civilian lives, I don't now. Power, water and internet etc still functioning. Hearing locals there say the Russians can't fight at night was interesting to say the least It was shocking to see Vlad come out and almost beg the Ukrainian army to lay down their arms and "go back to you family". He clearly underestimated the strong nationalism of the Ukrainians. He also referred to Zelensky as a Nazi. Zelensky is Jewish. Poor Vlad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted February 26, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 26, 2022 8 minutes ago, spin_dry said: It was shocking to see Vlad come out and almost beg the Ukrainian army to lay down their arms and "go back to you family". He clearly underestimated the strong nationalism of the Ukrainians. He also referred to Zelensky as a Nazi. Zelensky is Jewish. Poor Vlad. He looks a lot weaker then I expected him to be. Him pleading for the Ukrainian army to turn on their own people seemed very desperate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 (edited) OMG, there are some real dipshits believing shit about this. 8 fucking threads started with links, yet very little substance. Just reading some responses you can tell who falls for the bullshit constantly. Let me ask, does anyone know the politicians in the US that have connections with Ukraine and it's resources/companies? HMMM? Yes sir molotov cocktails should do the trick. Edited February 26, 2022 by racer254 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted February 26, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 26, 2022 Wonder if this is legit…wouldn’t be surprised.🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted February 26, 2022 Author Share Posted February 26, 2022 46 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said: Wonder if this is legit…wouldn’t be surprised.🤣 That’s pretty funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Danger Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 The largest nuclear power plant in Europe is smack dab in the middle of the conflict.....what could possibly go wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted February 27, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 27, 2022 On 2/25/2022 at 4:25 PM, Skidooski said: I would think they’d have done that sooner but everything seems to be coming a day late and dollar short. Wonder what we did as far as arms go. We knew the date. Then again , we knew the date in vietganistan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted February 27, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 27, 2022 On 2/25/2022 at 5:56 PM, Carlos Danger said: Basilone was haunted by his fame and legend more than likely got him killed as he really did not need to go back to the front lines. I am not saying war is pretty i am just saying these stories always pop up. His story on Guadalcanal was pretty amazing. Good episodes in the Pacific miniseries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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