Legend Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 1 hour ago, DAVE said: NASCAR to standardize at-track rosters beginning in 2018 BY ZACK ALBERT | NASCAR.COM | NOVEMBER 22, 2017 NASCAR announced Wednesday morning that it will standardize at-track team rosters across all three national series in 2018, providing a structure for the number of personnel working on each vehicle during the course of a race weekend. The biggest competition impact from the rules update is the the number of crewmembers who go over the wall for pit stops moving from six to five. According to Steve O’Donnell, NASCAR Executive Vice President and Chief Racing Development Officer, the overall objective for standardized rosters is to promote better competition through increased parity, to improve safety and to cast a brighter spotlight on the sport’s team concept. “As much as we can possibly level the playing field and introduce new winners, that’s really the goal and what we want for the fans,” O’Donnell said. “And so if you look at these initiatives with the over-the-wall crew going to five members, that fits into our overall structure from a roster standpoint. We feel like that again puts the focus on the athletes and also continues down that line of putting the focus on the teams and opening it up to as many teams as possible to continue to win races and therefore put a better product out there for the fans.” At-track rosters for all three series will fall under three headings: Organizational, Road Crew and Pit Crew. Job descriptions and roster maximums for each category: Organizational: Examples include competition director, team managers, technical director, IT specialists. In the Monster Energy NASCAR Cup Series, teams will be allotted three organizational roster spots for one- and two-car operations, and four spots for three- and four-car outfits. XFINITY and Camping World Truck Series teams will be allowed one organizational roster spot each. Road Crew: Examples include crew chief, car chief, mechanics, engine tuners, engineers, specialists (for areas such as tires, aerodynamics and shocks) and spotters. The limits for these personnel by series: Monster Energy Series, 12; XFINITY, 7; Camping World Trucks, 6. Pit Crew: This designation refers solely to team members who perform over-the-wall service during pit stops. The maximum is five for all three series. The exceptions to these numbers are slight. Monster Energy Series teams are allowed one extra road crew position at Indianapolis Motor Speedway and the three road courses (Sonoma, Watkins Glen, Charlotte), where teams often use multiple spotters. Also, an additional road crew roster spot will be allowed for XFINITY teams at 10 races and Truck Series teams at five. It will be left to the teams’ discretion on how to best assemble their team — including the over-the-wall crew — within the roster limits. All rosters will be made public — for fans and media — before each race weekend. The decrease in pit-crew personnel on an active pit road continues a trend in recent years. NASCAR reduced the number of over-the-wall crewmembers from seven to six in 2011, when advances in fueling systems eliminated the need for a catch-can. NASCAR also instituted a high-tech pit road officiating system in 2015 that made over-the-wall officials unnecessary to monitor pit stops. “First and foremost, it’s safety, and we’ve taken some steps in our own house in reducing the number of officials on pit road,” O’Donnell said. “We used to have seven crewmembers over the wall for the race teams as well; we’d reduced that to six. And this is just another evolution with five, to make sure that the environment is as safe as possible for the race, and then also, candidly, to continue to focus on the athletes. We’ve got some of the best athletes in the world out there on pit road, so we’ll want to showcase them in as safe an environment as we can.” From 2011 to 2017, the standard six-person pit-crew configuration included a jackman, a fueler, two tire changers and two tire carriers (one each for front and rear). For routine four-tire stops starting next season, teams could forgo one tire carrier and devise a new framework for servicing their vehicles. The responsibilities of the fueler will also be narrowed, with other over-the-wall duties such as wrenching out chassis adjustments prohibited in 2018. “We wanted to get out ahead of it as quickly as we can, and teams are probably practicing right now,” O’Donnell said about the timing of the announcement. “If I know them, they’re already getting ready for Daytona so that’s something we wanted to get out in front of them, working with the industry.” In another effort to bring further recognition to team members, rostered crew will be assigned letters or numbers worn on their uniforms and on armbands to identify their duties. “Those are superstars as well in our industry,” O’Donnell said. “The more we can allow fans inside that window and the media, candidly, to have you handed a roster prior to the race weekend opening up to know who’s on each team and what role they’re going to play for that weekend. “Short-term, it’s going to take some getting used to, but long-term, I think it’ll really help develop some of the other names that have been a part of this sport for a long time and emphasize why you’ve always heard drivers talk about how this is a team sport. I think it’ll help showcase that for the fans.” As has been the case with many recent developments in the sport, the advent of standardized at-track rosters was achieved through collaboration with race organizations, a process that O’Donnell said produced favorable feedback. “I think it’s been really positive,” O’Donnell said. “Everybody obviously wants to see it play out on the track, but everyone kept in mind that our goal is to make the racing even better and to allow the possibility for even more teams to win a race and compete on pit road. So the idea in putting this in place has been very much embraced by the race teams, but obviously we want to see it in action and make it a positive thing for our fans going forward So they want to start making "superstars" out of the crew members by reducing the amount, placing more responsibilty on the fewer, making them recognizable to the fans with identifiying armbands or numbers, releasing "rosters" for each track, etc etc. So maybe not this coming year, but soon in the future, the exceptional team members that turn into superstars and have a following will start demanding more $$$ for their services. Then they will start to sign contracts, just like other athletes in professional sports. Now they are costing the team owners more money and to compete against other owners for these "superstars". This is a bad idea. Not to mention, some of these athletes will get to big for their britches and find something to complain about using their new platform.... I have no problems with francecar reducing team member allowed at the track. Or even member allowed over the wall. Actually, I think the max over the wall should be 4. Make the tire changers carry their own damn tires. But to make "superstars" out of them is a bad idea. The superstars of auto racing has always been, and always should be the drivers. That doesnt mean the crew is less important than the drivers, but they really kind of are. Just my opinion. If you dont agree with it, you're 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 1 minute ago, Legend said: So they want to start making "superstars" out of the crew members by reducing the amount, placing more responsibilty on the fewer, making them recognizable to the fans with identifiying armbands or numbers, releasing "rosters" for each track, etc etc. So maybe not this coming year, but soon in the future, the exceptional team members that turn into superstars and have a following will start demanding more $$$ for their services. Then they will start to sign contracts, just like other athletes in professional sports. Now they are costing the team owners more money and to compete against other owners for these "superstars". This is a bad idea. Not to mention, some of these athletes will get to big for their britches and find something to complain about using their new platform.... I have no problems with francecar reducing team member allowed at the track. Or even member allowed over the wall. Actually, I think the max over the wall should be 4. Make the tire changers carry their own damn tires. But to make "superstars" out of them is a bad idea. The superstars of auto racing has always been, and always should be the drivers. That doesnt mean the crew is less important than the drivers, but they really kind of are. Just my opinion. If you dont agree with it, you're I agree with all that....anything that makes pitting harder is good for the sport...even with the best equipment...a bad pit can hurt a team....the last thing I want to see is F1 style pitting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revrnd Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 17 minutes ago, DAVE said: I agree with all that....anything that makes pitting harder is good for the sport...even with the best equipment...a bad pit can hurt a team....the last thing I want to see is F1 style pitting. Exactly! Those pit stops look like they're done by robots or zombies. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revrnd Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 24 minutes ago, Legend said: So they want to start making "superstars" out of the crew members by reducing the amount, placing more responsibilty on the fewer, making them recognizable to the fans with identifiying armbands or numbers, releasing "rosters" for each track, etc etc. So maybe not this coming year, but soon in the future, the exceptional team members that turn into superstars and have a following will start demanding more $$$ for their services. Then they will start to sign contracts, just like other athletes in professional sports. Now they are costing the team owners more money and to compete against other owners for these "superstars". This is a bad idea. Not to mention, some of these athletes will get to big for their britches and find something to complain about using their new platform.... I have no problems with francecar reducing team member allowed at the track. Or even member allowed over the wall. Actually, I think the max over the wall should be 4. Make the tire changers carry their own damn tires. But to make "superstars" out of them is a bad idea. The superstars of auto racing has always been, and always should be the drivers. That doesnt mean the crew is less important than the drivers, but they really kind of are. Just my opinion. If you dont agree with it, you're Does anyone really care who is servicing JJ's or Harvick's car? I don't think so. In the past personnel have bounced around from team to team & some organisations have swapped entire crews in & out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hwytohell Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 Tony Stewart has a nut bag stalker , http://www.espn.com/racing/nascar/story/_/id/21515509/woman-arrested-charged-stalking-tony-stewart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 2 hours ago, hwytohell said: Tony Stewart has a nut bag stalker , http://www.espn.com/racing/nascar/story/_/id/21515509/woman-arrested-charged-stalking-tony-stewart I was going to call Tony a faggot, but after seeing her picture, I commend him for standing up to this harassment!! No man should have to put up with that kind of mental and emotional abuse. We are men, hear us roar!!!!!!!!111111111! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revrnd Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 9 minutes ago, Legend said: I was going to call Tony a faggot, but after seeing her picture, I commend him for standing up to this harassment!! No man should have to put up with that kind of mental and emotional abuse. Kathi Bates? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 8 minutes ago, revrnd said: Kathi Bates? worse. click the link 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revrnd Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 1 minute ago, Legend said: worse. click the link I did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hwytohell Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 That mug shot reminds me of the kitchen witch in high school. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member Stephen Hawking Posted November 23, 2017 Gold Member Share Posted November 23, 2017 Tony has granny addams stalking him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hwytohell Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 Miller-Coors unlikely to renew deal with francecar : http://www.espn.com/jayski/cup/2017/story/_/id/21525877/millercoors-unlikely-renew-deal-nascar The great leadership of brainless brian france . All sports on the tube are in a decline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revrnd Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, hwytohell said: Miller-Coors unlikely to renew deal with francecar : http://www.espn.com/jayski/cup/2017/story/_/id/21525877/millercoors-unlikely-renew-deal-nascar The great leadership of brainless brian france . All sports on the tube are in a decline. Its pretty bad when a beer company reduces sponsorship in stock car racing. Maybe they're afraid everyone has switched to Monster Energy Drink? LOL Edited November 23, 2017 by revrnd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted November 23, 2017 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted November 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, hwytohell said: Miller-Coors unlikely to renew deal with francecar : http://www.espn.com/jayski/cup/2017/story/_/id/21525877/millercoors-unlikely-renew-deal-nascar The great leadership of brainless brian france . All sports on the tube are in a decline. That isn't good especially scaling back their sponsorship with Roger Penske. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 1 minute ago, Jimmy Snacks said: That isn't good especially scaling back their sponsorship with Roger Penske. It might be a good thing imo....the big teams wont be able to afford the tech and testing....it could even the playing field some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Blackstar Posted November 23, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted November 23, 2017 On 2017-11-20 at 12:33 PM, DAVE said: Anyways thanks for Joining the pool guys...was a fun yr. Thanks for the invite. I’m in again for next year and my dad will be as well. looking forward to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 Just now, Blackstar said: Thanks for the invite. I’m in again for next year and my dad will be as well. looking forward to it. Sweet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted November 23, 2017 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted November 23, 2017 12 minutes ago, DAVE said: It might be a good thing imo....the big teams wont be able to afford the tech and testing....it could even the playing field some. Losing sponsorship is now a good thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 Just now, Jimmy Snacks said: Losing sponsorship is now a good thing? Big sponsors yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted November 23, 2017 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted November 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, DAVE said: Big sponsors yes. Is this another of your I say the sky is blue and you say it isn't moments? Losing sponsorship is in no way good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 Just now, Jimmy Snacks said: Is this another of your I say the sky is blue and you say it isn't moments? Losing sponsorship is in no way good. You keep saying sponsorship...and I keep saying big sponsorship....nascar sucks because there only a few good teams....im saying if these big teams lose big sponsorship it will bring them down to the same level as the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2strokemerc Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Last F1 race of the season tomorrow morning. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hwytohell Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 Bud Moore , Dead at 92 http://www.espn.com/jayski/cup/2017/story/_/id/21596166/sad-news-bud-moore He could make those Fords run back in the day . Rip. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted November 28, 2017 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted November 28, 2017 58 minutes ago, hwytohell said: Bud Moore , Dead at 92 http://www.espn.com/jayski/cup/2017/story/_/id/21596166/sad-news-bud-moore He could make those Fords run back in the day . Rip. Another of the NASCAR originals and a great American as well....good run to 92 and a life well lived ...RIP. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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