rump-rider Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 On November 19, 2017 at 6:33 PM, Jimmy Snacks said: awesome interview with Jr......sad to see him go but good for him. I was a little annoyed with all the attention he got. I get that Jr has a big fan base and I like him, but Matt Kenseth had a far more successful career and basically got shunned all night. I don't remember Gordon & Edwards getting overwhelmed by the media like that either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckf Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, rump-rider said: I was a little annoyed with all the attention he got. I get that Jr has a big fan base and I like him, but Matt Kenseth had a far more successful career and basically got shunned all night. I don't remember Gordon & Edwards getting overwhelmed by the media like that either. They did pay quite a bit of attention to Stewart and Gordon. Not as much as they did Jr though. I wonder how much Jr not driving next year will hurt TV and ticket sales? They are already in trouble. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rump-rider Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 3 minutes ago, ckf said: They did pay quite a bit of attention to Stewart and Gordon. Not as much as they did Jr though. I wonder how much Jr not driving next year will hurt TV and ticket sales? They are already in trouble. It'll probably hurt big but like you said they've already been hurting. It's kind of hard to follow the rule changes, most races are pretty boring, fan base is aging, and big names are gone. I have a hard time sitting down to watch a race nowadays except the super speedways. Rest of them I just catch the end. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 14 minutes ago, ckf said: They did pay quite a bit of attention to Stewart and Gordon. Not as much as they did Jr though. I wonder how much Jr not driving next year will hurt TV and ticket sales? They are already in trouble. Its all Sterling Marlins fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted November 21, 2017 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted November 21, 2017 1 hour ago, DAVE said: Its all Sterling Marlins fault. Coo Coos boy....now why would you say that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckf Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 6 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said: Coo Coos boy....now why would you say that? That's who was involved in the accident that killed Senior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted November 21, 2017 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted November 21, 2017 Just now, ckf said: That's who was involved in the accident that killed Senior. Ahhh yes....don't pin it all on Coo Coos boy....Faulty belts and no HANS device is what really did him in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 5 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said: Ahhh yes....don't pin it all on Coo Coos boy....Faulty belts and no HANS device is what really did him in. Its easier just to blame it on bad wig wearin Sterling. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revrnd Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, ckf said: They did pay quite a bit of attention to Stewart and Gordon. Not as much as they did Jr though. I wonder how much Jr not driving next year will hurt TV and ticket sales? They are already in trouble. It will be interesting to see what happens when the next TV contracts are negotiated. I wonder when Fox will retire DW? Edited November 22, 2017 by revrnd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hwytohell Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, Jimmy Snacks said: Ahhh yes....don't pin it all on Coo Coos boy....Faulty belts and no HANS device is what really did him in. It was francecar looking the other way on E.sr wants / Childress racing car builds , offset seat placement and seat / safety belts mounting points, , no full face helmet used , no cheap neck brace used . The Simpson belts had NO failure , francecar tried like hell to pin the blame on Bill Simpson safety products to cover the sports asses, he went to court , francecar paid him and made a quite public apology . Edited November 22, 2017 by hwytohell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hwytohell Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 1 hour ago, revrnd said: It will be interesting to see what happens when the next TV contracts are negotiated. I wonder when Fox will retire DW? Sadly there is some concern - rumors about DW's health. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hwytohell Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 (edited) 5 hours ago, ckf said: They did pay quite a bit of attention to Stewart and Gordon. Not as much as they did Jr though. I wonder how much Jr not driving next year will hurt TV and ticket sales? They are already in trouble. With the exit of E jr and Danica it will hurt francecar, they both had a large following . Mr. H is not at all happy about the # 48 team performance . Edited November 22, 2017 by hwytohell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted November 22, 2017 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted November 22, 2017 7 minutes ago, hwytohell said: It was francecar looking the other way on E.sr wants / Childress racing car builds , offset seat placement and seat / safety belts mounting points, , no full face helmet used , no cheap neck brace used . The Simpson belts had NO failure , francecar tried like hell to pin the blame on Bill Simpson safety products to cover the sports asses, he went to court , francecar paid him and made a quite public apology . Ahhh...didn't know that..thanks for the info. Although a lot of drivers didn't wear full face helmets then and it didn't matter in his death...Hans would have saved his life. 5 minutes ago, hwytohell said: Sadly there is some concern - rumors about DW's health. What is wrong with him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted November 22, 2017 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted November 22, 2017 Just now, hwytohell said: With the exit of E jr and Danica it will hurt francecar, they both had a large following . MR. H is not at all happy about the # 48 team performance . Yep I agree about Jr. and Danica even though the haters will deny it.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revrnd Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 3 minutes ago, hwytohell said: With the exit of E jr and Danica it will hurt francecar, they both had a large following . Mr. H is not at all happy about the # 48 team performance . Maybe they finally 'Jimmy-proofed' the championship? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hwytohell Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 Rumor about DW , heart - lung issues , he has gained a lot of weight because of the Rx's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted November 22, 2017 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted November 22, 2017 1 minute ago, hwytohell said: Rumor about DW , heart - lung issues , he has gained a lot of weight because of the Rx's Well that sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hwytohell Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 1 minute ago, revrnd said: Maybe they finally 'Jimmy-proofed' the championship? Cheating Chad's new wife wants to start a family and wants him off the road, change ahead?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted November 22, 2017 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted November 22, 2017 Just now, hwytohell said: Cheating Chad's new wife wants to start a family and wants him off the road, change ahead?? Wait...wut now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hwytohell Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 E sr was scared to death about being trapped in a fire , one of his personal reasons about the seat belts , full face helmets and early design HANS device. The seat and belts were ripped out at it's base / floor mounting points , he hit the steering wheel with his chest - head , dead. Ken Schrader was first on the wreck , he has now told what he knows. francecar changed the rules / inspection quick after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted November 22, 2017 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted November 22, 2017 10 minutes ago, hwytohell said: E sr was scared to death about being trapped in a fire , one of his personal reasons about the seat belts , full face helmets and early design HANS device. The seat and belts were ripped out at it's base / floor mounting points , he hit the steering wheel with his chest - head , dead. Ken Schrader was first on the wreck , he has now told what he knows. francecar changed the rules / inspection quick after. I thought his head snapped forward causing a basal skull fracture....not sure though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 23 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said: Well that sucks. This is a recent pic...other then no hair dye...id say DW looks ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 NASCAR to standardize at-track rosters beginning in 2018 BY ZACK ALBERT | NASCAR.COM | NOVEMBER 22, 2017 NASCAR announced Wednesday morning that it will standardize at-track team rosters across all three national series in 2018, providing a structure for the number of personnel working on each vehicle during the course of a race weekend. The biggest competition impact from the rules update is the the number of crewmembers who go over the wall for pit stops moving from six to five. According to Steve O’Donnell, NASCAR Executive Vice President and Chief Racing Development Officer, the overall objective for standardized rosters is to promote better competition through increased parity, to improve safety and to cast a brighter spotlight on the sport’s team concept. “As much as we can possibly level the playing field and introduce new winners, that’s really the goal and what we want for the fans,” O’Donnell said. “And so if you look at these initiatives with the over-the-wall crew going to five members, that fits into our overall structure from a roster standpoint. We feel like that again puts the focus on the athletes and also continues down that line of putting the focus on the teams and opening it up to as many teams as possible to continue to win races and therefore put a better product out there for the fans.” At-track rosters for all three series will fall under three headings: Organizational, Road Crew and Pit Crew. Job descriptions and roster maximums for each category: Organizational: Examples include competition director, team managers, technical director, IT specialists. In the Monster Energy NASCAR Cup Series, teams will be allotted three organizational roster spots for one- and two-car operations, and four spots for three- and four-car outfits. XFINITY and Camping World Truck Series teams will be allowed one organizational roster spot each. Road Crew: Examples include crew chief, car chief, mechanics, engine tuners, engineers, specialists (for areas such as tires, aerodynamics and shocks) and spotters. The limits for these personnel by series: Monster Energy Series, 12; XFINITY, 7; Camping World Trucks, 6. Pit Crew: This designation refers solely to team members who perform over-the-wall service during pit stops. The maximum is five for all three series. The exceptions to these numbers are slight. Monster Energy Series teams are allowed one extra road crew position at Indianapolis Motor Speedway and the three road courses (Sonoma, Watkins Glen, Charlotte), where teams often use multiple spotters. Also, an additional road crew roster spot will be allowed for XFINITY teams at 10 races and Truck Series teams at five. It will be left to the teams’ discretion on how to best assemble their team — including the over-the-wall crew — within the roster limits. All rosters will be made public — for fans and media — before each race weekend. The decrease in pit-crew personnel on an active pit road continues a trend in recent years. NASCAR reduced the number of over-the-wall crewmembers from seven to six in 2011, when advances in fueling systems eliminated the need for a catch-can. NASCAR also instituted a high-tech pit road officiating system in 2015 that made over-the-wall officials unnecessary to monitor pit stops. “First and foremost, it’s safety, and we’ve taken some steps in our own house in reducing the number of officials on pit road,” O’Donnell said. “We used to have seven crewmembers over the wall for the race teams as well; we’d reduced that to six. And this is just another evolution with five, to make sure that the environment is as safe as possible for the race, and then also, candidly, to continue to focus on the athletes. We’ve got some of the best athletes in the world out there on pit road, so we’ll want to showcase them in as safe an environment as we can.” From 2011 to 2017, the standard six-person pit-crew configuration included a jackman, a fueler, two tire changers and two tire carriers (one each for front and rear). For routine four-tire stops starting next season, teams could forgo one tire carrier and devise a new framework for servicing their vehicles. The responsibilities of the fueler will also be narrowed, with other over-the-wall duties such as wrenching out chassis adjustments prohibited in 2018. “We wanted to get out ahead of it as quickly as we can, and teams are probably practicing right now,” O’Donnell said about the timing of the announcement. “If I know them, they’re already getting ready for Daytona so that’s something we wanted to get out in front of them, working with the industry.” In another effort to bring further recognition to team members, rostered crew will be assigned letters or numbers worn on their uniforms and on armbands to identify their duties. “Those are superstars as well in our industry,” O’Donnell said. “The more we can allow fans inside that window and the media, candidly, to have you handed a roster prior to the race weekend opening up to know who’s on each team and what role they’re going to play for that weekend. “Short-term, it’s going to take some getting used to, but long-term, I think it’ll really help develop some of the other names that have been a part of this sport for a long time and emphasize why you’ve always heard drivers talk about how this is a team sport. I think it’ll help showcase that for the fans.” As has been the case with many recent developments in the sport, the advent of standardized at-track rosters was achieved through collaboration with race organizations, a process that O’Donnell said produced favorable feedback. “I think it’s been really positive,” O’Donnell said. “Everybody obviously wants to see it play out on the track, but everyone kept in mind that our goal is to make the racing even better and to allow the possibility for even more teams to win a race and compete on pit road. So the idea in putting this in place has been very much embraced by the race teams, but obviously we want to see it in action and make it a positive thing for our fans going forward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 13 hours ago, hwytohell said: With the exit of E jr and Danica it will hurt francecar, they both had a large following . Mr. H is not at all happy about the # 48 team performance . such a large following no one wanted to sponsor her, SMH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 Just now, Angry ginger said: such a large following no one wanted to sponsor her, SMH Exactly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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