Rod Posted August 4, 2020 Author Share Posted August 4, 2020 Just now, frenchy said: cigars, booze. Plus they'd have mega US tourism dollars flowing in. Not really difficult to figure for most. That’s still not going to make them rich help? Yes. Fix all their problems? Nope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchy Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, ACE said: That’s still not going to make them rich help? Yes. Fix all their problems? Nope. they'll never be rich, But they'd be a lot closer to countries like Costa Rica or DR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted August 4, 2020 Author Share Posted August 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, frenchy said: they'll never be rich, But they'd be a lot closer to countries like Costa Rica or DR. So capitalism would help them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchy Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, ACE said: So capitalism would help them. maybe. ending the embargo would help more though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted August 4, 2020 Author Share Posted August 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, frenchy said: maybe. ending the embargo would help more though. Cuba’s biggest export was actually doctors. Until they had a falling out with Brazil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 How long til the US collapses from all of this socialism and blacks enslave all of the white people and convert them to Islam? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManOnManOral Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 7 minutes ago, Anler said: How long til the US collapses from all of this socialism and blacks enslave all of the white people and convert them to Islam? 147 days 6 hours 45 minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member Kivalo Posted August 4, 2020 Gold Member Share Posted August 4, 2020 12 hours ago, Anler said: I think it would help more if they could just import goods. But they are bad commies, we can't have trade with people who do t think like us! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XCR1250 Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 9 hours ago, Anler said: How long til the US collapses from all of this socialism and blacks enslave all of the white people and convert them to Islam? Lots of Black Baptists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted August 4, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted August 4, 2020 10 hours ago, frenchy said: maybe. ending the embargo would help more though. Nope. Opening up trade would help but nothing fights poverty like the engine of capitalism. The knowledge that in most cases the harder you work the better you do is the key to economic success. Who in a communist country wants to work their ass off when they know it doesn't go far for improving their own situation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 Just now, Highmark said: Nope. Opening up trade would help but nothing fights poverty like the engine of capitalism. The knowledge that in most cases the harder you work the better you do is the key to economic success. Who in a communist country wants to work their ass off when they know it doesn't go far for improving their own situation? Why should working your ass off be required to live a comfortable life? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted August 4, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted August 4, 2020 Just now, f7ben said: Why should working your ass off be required to live a comfortable life? Not what I was saying. Define "comfortable life?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 4 minutes ago, Highmark said: Not what I was saying. Define "comfortable life?" From a Cuban perspective? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted August 4, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted August 4, 2020 Just now, f7ben said: From a Cuban perspective? Sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted August 4, 2020 Author Share Posted August 4, 2020 9 minutes ago, f7ben said: Why should working your ass off be required to live a comfortable life? Absolute poverty is the starting point. If you want more, do more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted August 4, 2020 Author Share Posted August 4, 2020 12 minutes ago, Highmark said: Nope. Opening up trade would help but nothing fights poverty like the engine of capitalism. The knowledge that in most cases the harder you work the better you do is the key to economic success. Who in a communist country wants to work their ass off when they know it doesn't go far for improving their own situation? Smart Cubans still live better than poor lazy ones. They’re just restricted from really gaining wealth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted August 4, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted August 4, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, ACE said: Smart Cubans still live better than poor lazy ones. They’re just restricted from really gaining wealth No doubt but there is a ceiling in communist countries and pending who you know its likely pretty low. Edited August 4, 2020 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 4 minutes ago, Highmark said: Sure. I’d say comfortable would be shelter and food from their perspective The faggot ass orange piece of filth actively inhibited that for zero reason at all after Obama attempted to start the process of normalizing relations with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted August 4, 2020 Author Share Posted August 4, 2020 Just now, Highmark said: No doubt but there is a ceiling in communist countries and pending who you know its likely pretty low. Yeah. I think only around 3% own a car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted August 4, 2020 Author Share Posted August 4, 2020 Just now, f7ben said: I’d say comfortable would be shelter and food from their perspective The faggot ass orange piece of filth actively inhibited that for zero reason at all after Obama attempted to start the process of normalizing relations with them. To really open it up requires an act of Congress Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 Just now, ACE said: To really open it up requires an act of Congress Nope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted August 4, 2020 Author Share Posted August 4, 2020 Just now, f7ben said: Nope Yup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 16 minutes ago, f7ben said: Why should working your ass off be required to live a comfortable life? sure lets give lazy ass people a great quality of life with no effort, SMH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted August 4, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted August 4, 2020 1 minute ago, f7ben said: I’d say comfortable would be shelter and food from their perspective The faggot ass orange piece of filth actively inhibited that for zero reason at all after Obama attempted to start the process of normalizing relations with them. I'm not really well read on why Trump did that but on the surface I agree it was a mistake. Honestly I think it comes down to votes in Florida. The Cuban population there does not want America to negotiate with Cuba until it becomes a democracy. Many there seen firsthand the perils of communism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted August 4, 2020 Author Share Posted August 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Highmark said: I'm not really well read on why Trump did that but on the surface I agree it was a mistake. Honestly I think it comes down to votes in Florida. The Cuban population there does not want America to negotiate with Cuba until it becomes a democracy. Many there seen firsthand the perils of communism. The people there are pretty torn from everyone I’ve talked to. Nobody there really likes the idea of Americans coming there for tourism but some understand it would be worth the trade off for the people’s well being tourism restrictions on Americans to Cuba were reinforced by the US in early 2015. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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