XCR1250 Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Kivalo said: WTF. Come on, man! Well, was it illegal to own slaves back then or not?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 1 minute ago, XCR1250 said: Well, was it illegal to own slaves back then or not?? It was legal to burn witches too....awful low fucking bar you set there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XCR1250 Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, f7ben said: It was legal to burn witches too....awful low fucking bar you set there That was only locally done not legal nationwide. What 1 town back then? Salem. The Salem witch trials were indeed held in Massachusetts. However, in 1692, when these trials took place, Massachusetts was not "American" at all. It was a British colony, and therefore fell under British rule and law. In other words, the Salem Colony was not American in 1692, because "America" didn't exist. In fact, it didn't exist until about eighty years later. Also, no one has ever been burned at the stake for witchcraft in America. In Salem, a number of people were hanged, and one was pressed to death. It is unlikely that any of those people were actually practicing any sort of witchcraft (except possibly Tituba), and more likely that they were all just unfortunate victims of mass hysteria. Thirty years prior to Salem, in 1662, a similar trial took place in nearby Hartford, Connecticut, although it was certainly on a smaller scale. Four people were executed for the crime of witchcraft—but again, this was during the Colonial period, so these were not truly American laws. Edited July 27, 2020 by XCR1250 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 Derp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member Kivalo Posted July 27, 2020 Gold Member Share Posted July 27, 2020 14 minutes ago, XCR1250 said: Well, was it illegal to own slaves back then or not?? Sure, it was legal. What's your point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XCR1250 Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 30 minutes ago, Kivalo said: Sure, it was legal. What's your point? Statues of folks who owned them shouldn't be torn down as they did nothing wrong while alive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XCR1250 Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 35 minutes ago, f7ben said: Derp ""Also, no one has ever been burned at the stake for witchcraft in America"" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 1 minute ago, XCR1250 said: Statues of folks who owned them shouldn't be torn down as they did nothing wrong while alive. So you’re fine with abortion then Got it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XCR1250 Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 1 minute ago, f7ben said: So you’re fine with abortion then Got it There's statues of Abortion providers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 1 minute ago, XCR1250 said: There's statues of Abortion providers? You’d cry if there was Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XCR1250 Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 1 minute ago, f7ben said: You’d cry if there was Nah, I wouldn't. I'm not in favor of Indians spearing fish but I don't cry about it either or burn down their Casino here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member Kivalo Posted July 27, 2020 Gold Member Share Posted July 27, 2020 15 minutes ago, XCR1250 said: Statues of folks who owned them shouldn't be torn down as they did nothing wrong while alive. They did nothing wrong? Is it your contention that if the US Government says it's legal then it's perfectly acceptable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XCR1250 Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Kivalo said: They did nothing wrong? Is it your contention that if the US Government says it's legal then it's perfectly acceptable? It WAS legal THEN and was ACCEPTED by the folks who kept electing them to pass or reject Laws, Government is the people and you or anyone else can run for office if you so choose too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSFB Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 24 minutes ago, XCR1250 said: Statues of folks who owned them shouldn't be torn down as they did nothing wrong while alive. Because it was legal they “did nothing wrong”? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 5 minutes ago, SSFB said: Because it was legal they “did nothing wrong”? It’s fucking mind boggling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 George Floyd statue? I'd give that a couple weeks before someone yanks it down. Turnabout is fair play eh? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XCR1250 Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 7 minutes ago, SSFB said: Because it was legal they “did nothing wrong”? Correct, if they had they would have been jailed..times were different then and Slavery was widely accepted Worldwide. Read link below. https://www.yahoo.com/news/nigerian-great-grandfather-sold-slaves-233633661.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSFB Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 9 minutes ago, XCR1250 said: Correct, if they had they would have been jailed..times were different then and Slavery was widely accepted Worldwide. Read link below. https://www.yahoo.com/news/nigerian-great-grandfather-sold-slaves-233633661.html I don’t need to read anything. The notion that something being legal means it wasn’t wrong is absurd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted July 27, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 27, 2020 Holy shit...Remember Don...the German Soldiers rounding people up and gassing them were “just following orders”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XCR1250 Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 1 minute ago, SSFB said: I don’t need to read anything. The notion that something being legal means it wasn’t wrong is absurd. Many believe lots of things that are Legal shouldn't be or shouldn't have been Legal, who makes those decisions? Referendums, Petitions, running for offices to change Laws to what you want them to be, people who Vote..it used to be Legal to Drink & drive many years ago, then the Laws were changed, same can be said about 100's maybe 1000's of things that were Legal and not Criminal, times change but by tearing down Statues and trying to erase History doesn't make the Past any better..if some wants Statues removed then go about it Lawfully, not by Riots destroying property of others, how would you like it if the rioters were to come to your neighborhood to Burn and tear it down including your home or Business? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XCR1250 Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 6 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said: Holy shit...Remember Don...the German Soldiers rounding people up and gassing them were “just following orders”. How can you compare human Genocide with destroying Neighborhoods? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSFB Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 1 minute ago, XCR1250 said: Many believe lots of things that are Legal shouldn't be or shouldn't have been Legal, who makes those decisions? Referendums, Petitions, running for offices to change Laws to what you want them to be, people who Vote..it used to be Legal to Drink & drive many years ago, then the Laws were changed, same can be said about 100's maybe 1000's of things that were Legal and not Criminal, times change but by tearing down Statues and trying to erase History doesn't make the Past any better..if some wants Statues removed then go about it Lawfully, not by Riots destroying property of others, how would you like it if the rioters were to come to your neighborhood to Burn and tear it down including your home or Business? You're rambling......... Laws have nothing to do with morality or what's right or wrong. Just like you said, laws change all the time so how could the law decide what's right or wrong? I didn't say anything about tearing down statues but since you asked, people burning down homes and businesses should expect to be shot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XCR1250 Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 1 minute ago, SSFB said: You're rambling......... Laws have nothing to do with morality or what's right or wrong. Just like you said, laws change all the time so how could the law decide what's right or wrong? I didn't say anything about tearing down statues but since you asked, people burning down homes and businesses should expect to be shot. Decent people can change laws by participating in creating those changes which some consider morally right Laws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSFB Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 1 minute ago, XCR1250 said: Decent people can change laws by participating in creating those changes which some consider morally right Laws. Of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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