spin_dry Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 It didn’t disappear like a miracle over Easter. The warm weather had no effect on it, and there is no vaccine. That’s all. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 He said last week his healthcare plan will be announced in 2 weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XCR1250 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 17 minutes ago, spin_dry said: It didn’t disappear like a miracle over Easter. The warm weather had no effect on it, and there is no vaccine. That’s all. FLASHBACK: Barack Obama Abruptly Halted H1N1 Testing, Undermining Biden's Attacks on Trump BY MATT MARGOLIS JUL 09, 2020 10:30 AM EST Share Tweet Email Comments Joe Biden has been attacking Trump’s response to the coronavirus pandemic from every angle. In the past, he’s literally presented his own plan for what Trump should have done, only to discover Trump was way ahead of him and had already done what Biden suggested. Biden’s recent attacks have focused on testing, accusing Trump of slowing testing down and not having a national strategy. “The crisis in Arizona is the direct result of Donald Trump’s failure to lead and his desire to ‘slow the testing down,’ and Americans are suffering the consequences,” Biden claimed Wednesday. Biden has argued that he’d have responded better to the coronavirus pandemic than Trump, but back in 2009, the Obama-Biden administration “abruptly advised states to stop testing for H1N1 flu, and stopped counting individual cases.” Sharyl Attkisson reported at the time that rationale “to forego testing and tracking individual cases was: why waste resources testing for H1N1 flu when the government has already confirmed there’s an epidemic?” The directive was questioned by health officials. Some public health officials privately disagreed with the decision to stop testing and counting, telling CBS News that continued tracking of this new and possibly changing virus was important because H1N1 has a different epidemiology, affects younger people more than seasonal flu and has been shown to have a higher case fatality rate than other flu virus strains. The directive was issued on July 24, 2009, three months after Obama declared H1N1 a national health emergency, and three months before Obama declared it a full national emergency. The decision to stop testing and counting cases was apparently made so abruptly that states had no opportunity to provide any input on the decision. Here’s what the CDC says about how testing was handled: As 2009 H1N1 cases continued to occur through the spring and summer, the task of counting cases became increasingly difficult. On May 12, 2009, CDC transitioned from reporting individual confirmed and probable cases of 2009 H1N1 influenza to reporting aggregate counts of 2009 H1N1 lab confirmed and probable cases, hospitalizations and deaths with the launch of an aggregate reporting web site. Once the numbers of cases increased beyond the point where counting of individual cases was practical, on July 23, 2009, CDC reported the number of 2009 cases for the last time. Why the sudden halting of testing and counting cases? Was the Obama-Biden administration trying to cover up how they botched the response to H1N1? I think that’s a very distinct possibility. The Obama-Biden administration failed to take any measures to slow the spread of the virus. Members of Congress called on the Obama-Biden administration to restrict travel with Mexico, where the H1N1 outbreak started, but they refused. “Closing our nation’s borders is not merited here,” said Obama’s DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano when a national health emergency was declared. She argued that closing the border or U.S. ports would have “no impact or very little” in stopping or slowing the spread of the virus. The theory that travel bans don’t work was proved wrong by President Trump after he took the bold step of banning travel from China in January. Despite overwhelming criticism, eventually WHO experts conceded that it worked and it saved lives. While countries like Italy and Iran were experiencing catastrophic outbreaks, the United States was not. If Trump’s decision to close travel with China saved lives, Obama’s decision not to close travel with Mexico cost lives. The Obama-Biden administration also failed to achieve its vaccine production goals. The New York Times reported in January 2010 that the Obama administration “predicted in early summer [2009] that it would have 160 million vaccine doses by late October,” but that “it ended up with less than 30 million,” leading to a public outcry and congressional investigations. This failure undoubtedly cost lives. A study by Purdue University scholars published on October 15, 2009 (before Obama declared the national emergency) determined that the H1N1 vaccine would arrive “too late to help most Americans who will be infected during this flu season.” The study determined that the CDC’s planned vaccination campaign would “likely not have a large effect on the total number of people ultimately infected by the pandemic H1N1 influenza virus.” The Obama-Biden administration’s response to the H1N1 pandemic was so bad that his former Ebola czar, Ron Klain, who is also an advisor to Biden’s campaign, admitted that the response was botched. “We did every possible thing wrong. Sixty million Americans got H1N1 in that period of time. And it is purely a fortuity that this isn’t one of the great mass casualty events in American history. It had nothing to do with us doing anything right. It just had to do with luck. If anyone thinks that this can’t happen again, they don’t have to go back to 1918, they just have to go back to 2009, 2010, and imagine a virus with a different lethality, and you can just do the math on that.” H1N1 had a mortality rate of .02 percent. According to the CDC’s latest estimate, the coronavirus has an overall mortality rate of .4 percent for symptomatic cases (or .26 percent if you include asymptomatic cases) meaning that the coronavirus is 13-20 times more deadly than H1N1. The coronavirus is not only many times more deadly than H1N1, but also more infectious. According to a study from Emerging Infectious Diseases, COVID-19 has a median R0 value (a mathematical term for how contagious a disease is) of 5.7, while H1N1 had an R0 value between 1.4 and 1.6. COVID-19 is nearly four times more infectious and 13-20 times more deadly than H1N1. So, yes, Obama and Biden were, as Ron Klain put it, lucky. The CDC estimates that in the United States alone there were nearly 61 million cases of H1N1, 274,304 hospitalizations, and 12,469 deaths between April 12, 2009, and April 10, 2010. Trump has argued that our testing is so much better than other countries that the United States appears to have disproportionately more cases than other countries, and has made tongue-in-cheek comments about slowing down testing, which the mainstream media pounced on. But the Obama-Biden administration literally stopped testing during the H1N1 pandemic, perhaps to cover up their botched response, and the media still praised their efforts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildboer Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 I just wanna know if/when my second $1200 check is coming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted July 23, 2020 Author Share Posted July 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, Wildboer said: I just wanna know if/when my second $1200 check is coming Beginning of August. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildboer Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, spin_dry said: Beginning of August. Nice, surprisingly I've had less work in the past 3 weeks than I did when NY/NJ was falling apart a couple months ago. Everyone wants their deck or patio worked on and we're legit running out of treated lumber around here. We convinced a customer to reskin their deck with Cedar because there was no treated around and we still had to call around to a handful of lumberyards before we could even find enough cedar for a small deck this week. Composite is out of stock at most yards around here too. People are investing their vacation funds into their backyards because they know that's where they're spending the summer this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted July 23, 2020 Author Share Posted July 23, 2020 5 minutes ago, Wildboer said: Nice, surprisingly I've had less work in the past 3 weeks than I did when NY/NJ was falling apart a couple months ago. Everyone wants their deck or patio worked on and we're legit running out of treated lumber around here. We convinced a customer to reskin their deck with Cedar because there was no treated around and we still had to call around to a handful of lumberyards before we could even find enough cedar for a small deck this week. Composite is out of stock at most yards around here too. People are investing their vacation funds into their backyards because they know that's where they're spending the summer this year. Treated lumber around here is slim. Whatever menards has in stock is so twisted it’s mostly unusable. As for updates, I’ve noticed the same in my neighborhood. Lots of remodeling and landscaping. The area has never looked better. I redid and stained my deck Last month before surgery. New sump pump pit, pump, and basement paint. New carpet in August. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildboer Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 1 minute ago, spin_dry said: Treated lumber around here is slim. Whatever menards has in stock is so twisted it’s mostly unusable. As for updates, I’ve noticed the same in my neighborhood. Lots of remodeling and landscaping. The area has never looked better. I redid and stained my deck Last month before surgery. New sump pump pit, pump, and basement paint. New carpet in August. I know I'm going to regret admitting this because some assholes on here don't understand functioning tight knit families, but the weeks work gets really dry I've been working on my parent's house. Stripped, sanded, and painted the mailbox, did a couple days of masonry fixing up walls my grandfather built 50 years ago(They live in the house my mother grew up in), landscaping, took down a tree that was looking like it'd fall on their house within the next 5 years. We've done more decks this summer than we have in the past 10 years though. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted July 23, 2020 Gold Member Share Posted July 23, 2020 Been way too busy. Wish Covid would slow work down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted July 23, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 23, 2020 round here most folks are making the same money , but their expenses have gone down. They have more disposable income and less places to dispose it. Fuck it, spend it on the home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awful knawful Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 10 hours ago, spin_dry said: It didn’t disappear like a miracle over Easter. The warm weather had no effect on it, and there is no vaccine. That’s all. The trials are working quite well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awful knawful Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 9 hours ago, BOHICA said: Been way too busy. Wish Covid would slow work down. I've been doing 24-36 hours overtime every week on my 4 days off. It's insane! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 10 hours ago, BOHICA said: Been way too busy. Wish Covid would slow work down. 1 hour ago, steve from amherst said: round here most folks are making the same money , but their expenses have gone down. They have more disposable income and less places to dispose it. Fuck it, spend it on the home. 55 minutes ago, awful knawful said: I've been doing 24-36 hours overtime every week on my 4 days off. It's insane! But, according to some on here, we need another stimulus and something to keep the extra 600 in unemployment compensation. Fucking sheep or crooks taking the money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted July 23, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 23, 2020 15 minutes ago, racer254 said: But, according to some on here, we need another stimulus and something to keep the extra 600 in unemployment compensation. Fucking sheep or crooks taking the money. Hey dumbfuck FS doesn’t represent a cross section of this country but it doesn’t surprise me that this is what you use as a guidepost for all issues in this country. 🤣🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said: Hey dumbfuck FS doesn’t represent a cross section of this country but it doesn’t surprise me that this is what you use as a guidepost for all issues in this country. 🤣🤣 Sure. Keep up the good work SJW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 39 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said: Hey dumbfuck FS doesn’t represent a cross section of this country but it doesn’t surprise me that this is what you use as a guidepost for all issues in this country. 🤣🤣 back with the name calling..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awful knawful Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 2 hours ago, DriftBusta said: back with the name calling..... Well, when ya got nothing.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awful knawful Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 3 hours ago, Jimmy Snacks said: Hey dumbfuck FS doesn’t represent a cross section of this country but it doesn’t surprise me that this is what you use as a guidepost for all issues in this country. 🤣🤣 Well we have millionaires, truck drivers, electricians and all the way down to prostitutes. Pretty good spread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted July 23, 2020 Author Share Posted July 23, 2020 4 hours ago, awful knawful said: Well we have millionaires, truck drivers, electricians and all the way down to prostitutes. Pretty good spread. And then there’s you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted July 23, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 23, 2020 8 hours ago, DriftBusta said: back with the name calling..... I know you’re old but you aren’t my dad.🤣 5 hours ago, awful knawful said: Well, when ya got nothing.... you move to New Brunswick and die. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awful knawful Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, spin_dry said: And then there’s you. I am pretty awesome. Especially compared to your whining ass. Edited July 23, 2020 by awful knawful 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awful knawful Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 41 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said: I know you’re old but you aren’t my dad🤣 you move to New Brunswick and die. I leave from my house on sled and ATV. Lots of toys, good retirement savings and everything is paid for. One of the best salmon and boating rivers in the world in my back yard. Best trails in the world right across the river, as well as cheap beer and cheap marijuana. Working like crazy and making good coin. Yeah, it sucks here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frostynuts Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 6 hours ago, awful knawful said: Well we have millionaires, truck drivers, electricians and all the way down to prostitutes. Pretty good spread. Please post pics of the best looking prostitutes, asking for a friend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awful knawful Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Frostynuts said: Please post pics of the best looking prostitutes, asking for a friend. I didn't say they were good looking...or female. Edited July 23, 2020 by awful knawful 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 3 hours ago, awful knawful said: I didn't say they were good looking...or female. Who was that skank in your garage pic? Does she want to be strapped-down on the breeding rack? She looks like a stupid cunt that needs to be strapped-down, slapped and fucked hard. Ask her if she's interested in that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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