More evidence of undercounting COVID dead

[spin_dry]

The evidence is overwhelming. 
 

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/accurate-us-coronavirus-death-count-experts-off-tens/story?id=70385359

[Highmark]

Reported flu deaths drop off a cliff all the while....

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/coronavirus/Alert-2-New-ICD-code-introduced-for-COVID-19-deaths.pdf?fbclid=IwAR2XckyC93jfKqvOue5EdPlNA8LlKKgz4vPZTU1whI4vXLSOADSjsL9XY-M

 

Will COVID-19 be the underlying cause?

The underlying cause depends upon what and where conditions are reported on the death certificate. However, the rules for coding and selection of the underlying cause of death are expected to result in COVID19 being the underlying cause more often than not.

Should “COVID-19” be reported on the death certificate only with a confirmed test?

COVID-19 should be reported on the death certificate for all decedents where the disease caused or is assumed to have caused or contributed to death. Certifiers should include as much detail as possible based on their knowledge of the case, medical records, laboratory testing, etc. If the decedent had other chronic conditions such as COPD or asthma that may have also contributed, these conditions can be reported in Part II. (See attached Guidance for Certifying COVID-19 Deaths)

Edited April 29, 2020 by Highmark

[Rod]

Just now, Highmark said:

Reported flu deaths drop off a cliff all the while....

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/coronavirus/Alert-2-New-ICD-code-introduced-for-COVID-19-deaths.pdf?fbclid=IwAR2XckyC93jfKqvOue5EdPlNA8LlKKgz4vPZTU1whI4vXLSOADSjsL9XY-M

Should “COVID-19” be reported on the death certificate only with a confirmed test?

COVID-19 should be reported on the death certificate for all decedents where the disease caused or is assumed to have caused or contributed to death. Certifiers should include as much detail as possible based on their knowledge of the case, medical records, laboratory testing, etc. If the decedent had other chronic conditions such as COPD or asthma that may have also contributed, these conditions can be reported in Part II. (See attached Guidance for Certifying COVID-19 Deaths)

This is a pretty big issue for the virus cult but it doesn’t matter what they died from

X amount of people are going to die from some form of respiratory illness in the next year or two. If the Chinese virus takes them out that just means that the flu doesn’t get the chance. 

[Highmark]

6 minutes ago, ACE said:

This is a pretty big issue for the virus cult but it doesn’t matter what they died from

X amount of people are going to die from some form of respiratory illness in the next year or two. If the Chinese virus takes them out that just means that the flu doesn’t get the chance. 

Since they like models and comparison's.   

The US has about 4.3% of the worlds population yet 27% of the deaths and 33% of the total cases in the world.   Sorry not buying it.   I know our country is filled with fat, drunk and stupid people but those numbers just don't add up.

 

 

[DriftBusta]

I'm on the fence with the reporting.  A nursing home near here is reporting 30 covid deaths.  Holyoke Soldiers Home is reporting 80.  Those are fucking insane # for individual facilities.

[Mainecat]

Coronavirus has killed 60,000 Americans in 3 months. Yeah 20,000 a month is not as bad as the flue.

 

[Matt]

Attribution is going to continue to be a challenge.  At my sister's ICU, their normal patient caseload has dropped through the floor, suggesting many folks are likely dying at home for things they'd normally be coming in for.  This is true across the entire medical spectrum.  People are staying away from healthcare facilities in droves.  For electives, that's fine, but for things like infarctions, asthma complications, etc there have to be increases in numbers of deaths for those reasons.  Sadly, people are dying who could be saved if they'd come in.

[ArcticCrusher]

3 minutes ago, DriftBusta said:

I'm on the fence with the reporting.  A nursing home near here is reporting 30 covid deaths.  Holyoke Soldiers Home is reporting 80.  Those are fucking insane # for individual facilities.

80% of the deaths here have come from long term care homes.

[Zambroski]

[Zambroski]

1 minute ago, ArcticCrusher said:

80% of the deaths here have come from long term care homes.

They’d have lived forever if it wasn’t for the damn COVIDs!

[Highmark]

Just now, ArcticCrusher said:

80% of the deaths here have come from long term care homes.

Nationwide I think ours is over 40%.   No question its a bad virus and its exceptionally bad for certain groups.