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5 minutes ago, revkevsdi said:

https://www.opptrends.com/biology-101-why-are-men-faster-than-women/

I doubt adjusting hormones will change the fast twitch muscles, lung capacity and the skeleton.

Transgenders should not compete against women. 

Did you and Snowputz just have your first disagreement?

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24 minutes ago, revkevsdi said:

https://www.opptrends.com/biology-101-why-are-men-faster-than-women/

I doubt adjusting hormones will change the fast twitch muscles, lung capacity and the skeleton.

Transgenders should not compete against women. 

It's like that one time a year in which we agree.  Got it out of the way in Feb!  Excellent!  :lol: 

Now, go school your boy.

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1 hour ago, ArcticCrusher said:

Did you and Snowputz just have your first disagreement?

 

1 hour ago, Jimmy Snacks said:

 

:ronald:

 

1 hour ago, Zambroski said:

It's like that one time a year in which we agree.  Got it out of the way in Feb!  Excellent!  :lol: 

Now, go school your boy.

 

1 hour ago, ArcticCrusher said:

Get back on the same wrong page.:lol: 

First time you fucktards have been on the right side of the argument.  A broken clock is right twice a day. So you fuckheads have a long way to go. 

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Wrong to let them compete but acceptable to let them shower with little girls.   Fucking typical retard libs way of thinking.  

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Read and learn.  Nobody is saying a male who identifies as a female and still has natural levels of testosterone for a male be allowed to compete against women.  However in most cases where this is an issue it’s much more complex.  

An excerpt:

ENDOGENOUS ANDROGENS AND DISORDERS OF SEXUAL DIFFERENTIATION

In addition to the challenges of detecting illicit use of exogenous testosterone, the International Olympic Committee has struggled to define the role of endogenous testosterone in women's athletics. A variety of DSD may result in elevated androgen production in women. Given testosterone's role as a performance-enhancing substance, it is not surprising that this could convey a competitive advantage in athletics. Accordingly, DSDs have attracted attention in the context of ‘gender verification’ testing. Mandatory testing of all female athletes has been eliminated from Olympic competition. Nonetheless, individual athletes may be required by their sport federation to undergo testing for sexual genotype and phenotype based on a challenge by another athlete or a suspicion raised during sample provision for doping control (IAAF, 2006). Gender verification received widespread attention in 2009 with the South African middle distance runner, Caster Semenya. The International Association of Athletics Federations (IAAF) ordered Semenya to undergo gender verification following her win in the women's 800 m race at the IAAF World Championships in Athletics in Berlin. Based on the rapid improvement in her race times (almost 9 seconds from 2008 to 2009), initial suspicions focused on the possibility that Semenya was using performance-enhancing drugs. Urine tests after her race in Berlin cleared Semenya from the suspicion of exogenous androgen use. However, her appearance prompted speculation about possible endogenous sources of androgens related to DSD. It is appropriate that the results of her gender verification test have not been made public. In 2010, Semenya was permitted to resume women's track competition. This is consistent with current policy for athletes with DSD, which allows participation by women with “conditions that may accord some advantages”, including congenital adrenal hyperplasia, androgen-secreting tumors, and polycystic ovarian syndrome (IAAF, 2006). Nonetheless, gender verification is a somewhat subjective process, as demonstrated by Indian runner Santhi Soundarajan, who was stripped of her silver medal in the women's 800 m at the 2006 Asian Games following gender verification, despite previously being cleared for competition at the Asian Championships in 2005 (Terry, 2010).

At birth, an infant's sex is typically assigned on the basis of the external genitalia. DSD is often confused with “intersex”, referring to conditions where the external genitalia do not conform to the standards of either male or female (Ritchie et al, 2008). Individuals with DSD may present with a normal masculine or feminine phenotype, even if that does not accord with the genotypic sex. However, the external genitalia represent only one facet of masculine or feminine development, and we do not yet understand how differentiation of each sexually-dimorphic trait throughout the body and brain is coordinated.

 

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19 minutes ago, Highmark said:

Wrong to let them compete but acceptable to let them shower with little girls.   Fucking typical retard libs way of thinking.  

Ignorance on full display. 

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Just now, SnowRider said:

Read and learn.  Nobody is saying a male who identifies as a female and still has natural levels of testosterone for a male be allowed to compete against women.  However in most cases where this is an issue it’s much more complex.  

An excerpt:

ENDOGENOUS ANDROGENS AND DISORDERS OF SEXUAL DIFFERENTIATION

In addition to the challenges of detecting illicit use of exogenous testosterone, the International Olympic Committee has struggled to define the role of endogenous testosterone in women's athletics. A variety of DSD may result in elevated androgen production in women. Given testosterone's role as a performance-enhancing substance, it is not surprising that this could convey a competitive advantage in athletics. Accordingly, DSDs have attracted attention in the context of ‘gender verification’ testing. Mandatory testing of all female athletes has been eliminated from Olympic competition. Nonetheless, individual athletes may be required by their sport federation to undergo testing for sexual genotype and phenotype based on a challenge by another athlete or a suspicion raised during sample provision for doping control (IAAF, 2006). Gender verification received widespread attention in 2009 with the South African middle distance runner, Caster Semenya. The International Association of Athletics Federations (IAAF) ordered Semenya to undergo gender verification following her win in the women's 800 m race at the IAAF World Championships in Athletics in Berlin. Based on the rapid improvement in her race times (almost 9 seconds from 2008 to 2009), initial suspicions focused on the possibility that Semenya was using performance-enhancing drugs. Urine tests after her race in Berlin cleared Semenya from the suspicion of exogenous androgen use. However, her appearance prompted speculation about possible endogenous sources of androgens related to DSD. It is appropriate that the results of her gender verification test have not been made public. In 2010, Semenya was permitted to resume women's track competition. This is consistent with current policy for athletes with DSD, which allows participation by women with “conditions that may accord some advantages”, including congenital adrenal hyperplasia, androgen-secreting tumors, and polycystic ovarian syndrome (IAAF, 2006). Nonetheless, gender verification is a somewhat subjective process, as demonstrated by Indian runner Santhi Soundarajan, who was stripped of her silver medal in the women's 800 m at the 2006 Asian Games following gender verification, despite previously being cleared for competition at the Asian Championships in 2005 (Terry, 2010).

At birth, an infant's sex is typically assigned on the basis of the external genitalia. DSD is often confused with “intersex”, referring to conditions where the external genitalia do not conform to the standards of either male or female (Ritchie et al, 2008). Individuals with DSD may present with a normal masculine or feminine phenotype, even if that does not accord with the genotypic sex. However, the external genitalia represent only one facet of masculine or feminine development, and we do not yet understand how differentiation of each sexually-dimorphic trait throughout the body and brain is coordinated.

 

So now we are going to hormone test HS transgender athletes.  :lol:  

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16 hours ago, Mileage Psycho said:

It's real clear cut, if you're born with a dick you compete in men's events, it doesn't matter what you see yourself as...........you were born with a dick.

Think about this; if Bruce Jenner gets his dick cutoff in 1971 he would have completely smashed and obliterated women's records in the 72 Olympics, I mean records that could last for centuries.

There are women, born with vaginas, that fail chromosome testing as well as hormone testing. Their are also people born with ambiguous genetalia. It's simple for a majority of the population, but their are people who are complicated to classify and it has nothing to do with how they identify.

16 hours ago, Mileage Psycho said:

There is no long history, George became a woman in 1951, and when did transgenders first star competing in sports?  We have Renee Richards who competed in 1977....even with the most convoluted thinking there is no way this could be considered a long history.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christine_Jorgensen

https://www.pri.org/stories/2015-07-17/five-trans-athletes-who-made-their-mark-caitlyn-jenner

 

 

There's has been a concern about men competing in women's sports since the first Olympics women were allowed to compete in buddy. They used to line the women up in their underwear and make them flash their vaginas to officials to prove they weren't men. That only started in the 1950's because women weren't even allowed to compete until the 30's...

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4 hours ago, Wildboer said:

There are women, born with vaginas, that fail chromosome testing as well as hormone testing. Their are also people born with ambiguous genetalia. It's simple for a majority of the population, but their are people who are complicated to classify and it has nothing to do with how they identify.

 

they can deal with that .000001% when the time comes but the reality is it's doubtful that these men beating women in CT had that issue

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On 2/24/2019 at 8:47 PM, Anler said:

Remember when Cartman pretended to be a retard to compete in the special Olympics and then got smoked by the real retards? Reminds me of Arctic cat guys. :lol:

 

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