Gold Member BOHICA Posted September 24, 2016 Gold Member Share Posted September 24, 2016 Bi partisan bill approved easily in comgress that would help victims and families of 9/11 has been vetoed by obama. Worst president ever to hold the office. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 Is that the one giving the families the right to sue the Sandi's? Not sure how they could ever collect or brought to a civil trial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momorider Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 Going to be first Veto overrule for Barry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted September 24, 2016 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 24, 2016 So why did he veto it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 Weak reason given to protect a nation that embodies everything Americans (and especially liberals) find repulsive: “Enacting [this legislation] into law, however, would neither protect Americans from terrorist attacks nor improve the effectiveness of our response to such attacks.” All in an effort to protect a nation that feeds our political system with MASSIVE DOLLARS! But hey, if you're a dem...that's ok. Right guys? I mean it must be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 11 minutes ago, Skidooski said: So why did he veto it? There is always more to the story... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted September 24, 2016 Author Gold Member Share Posted September 24, 2016 13 minutes ago, Skidooski said: So why did he veto it? To put foreign entities, gov'ts, and foreign leaders above an american citizen. Why? So as to not look bad on world stage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 Obama long had objected, too, warning that if US citizens are allowed to take the Saudis into court, then foreign countries could do the same to the United States, its diplomats and its service members. The administration was also apprehensive about undermining a longstanding yet difficult relationship with Saudi Arabia. The US relies on the Saudis as a counter to Iran’s influence in the region as well as to help combat the spread of terrorism throughout the Middle East. We need to have some deterrent to all of this meddling. I think every family of every service member who died or was injured in warfare should be able to sue our govt. Especially for the lies that were Vietnam, Iraq, Syria, Libya and so on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt.Storm Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Anler said: Obama long had objected, too, warning that if US citizens are allowed to take the Saudis into court, then foreign countries could do the same to the United States, its diplomats and its service members. The administration was also apprehensive about undermining a longstanding yet difficult relationship with Saudi Arabia. The US relies on the Saudis as a counter to Iran’s influence in the region as well as to help combat the spread of terrorism throughout the Middle East. We need to have some deterrent to all of this meddling. I think every family of every service member who died or was injured in warfare should be able to sue our govt. Especially for the lies that were Vietnam, Iraq, Syria, Libya and so on... yeah..but you can understand why some can't stand mid-easterners or any of those arab fawks. Edited September 24, 2016 by Capt.Storm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 I think other citizens of the world should be able to sue the USA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 1 minute ago, Capt.Storm said: yeah..but you can understand why some can't stand mid-easterners or any of those arab fawks. How much would we hate them if we never interfered with their affairs and didn't have 24/7 media propaganda about them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 4 minutes ago, Anler said: Obama long had objected, too, warning that if US citizens are allowed to take the Saudis into court, then foreign countries could do the same to the United States, its diplomats and its service members. The administration was also apprehensive about undermining a longstanding yet difficult relationship with Saudi Arabia. The US relies on the Saudis as a counter to Iran’s influence in the region as well as to help combat the spread of terrorism throughout the Middle East. We need to have some deterrent to all of this meddling. I think every family of every service member who died or was injured in warfare should be able to sue our govt. Especially for the lies that were Vietnam, Iraq, Syria, Libya and so on... To me this says we need to keep out political horse shit between countries out of the prying eyes of the ones that pay our salaries and fund our "horse shit". And I agree, this opens up a huge can of worms in the future that may actually allow the citizens to start holding our governments accountable. Makes me sick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt.Storm Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 Just now, Anler said: How much would we hate them if we never interfered with their affairs and didn't have 24/7 media propaganda about them? thing is we have been dealing with them and others for a long time..global thing..you don't fiance planes smashing into our buildings and expect to get away with it..or do they. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 2 minutes ago, Zambroski said: To me this says we need to keep out political horse shit between countries out of the prying eyes of the ones that pay our salaries and fund our "horse shit". And I agree, this opens up a huge can of worms in the future that may actually allow the citizens to start holding our governments accountable. Makes me sick. I wonder who Obama will pardon when he leaves office... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt.Storm Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 1 minute ago, Anler said: I wonder who Obama will pardon when he leaves office... Hillary? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Capt.Storm said: thing is we have been dealing with them and others for a long time..global thing..you don't fiance planes smashing into our buildings and expect to get away with it..or do they. I think what may come out of it goes way deeper than that. And once we start pulling at that thread......OFDA! Edited September 24, 2016 by Zambroski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt.Storm Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 Just now, Zambroski said: I think what may come out of it goes way deeper than that. And once we start pulling at that thread......OFDA! oh i'm sure..big ass can of worms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 4 minutes ago, Capt.Storm said: thing is we have been dealing with them and others for a long time..global thing..you don't fiance planes smashing into our buildings and expect to get away with it..or do they. We have been covertly overthrowing their democratically elected governments since the 50's and deliberately causing civil unrest. Now they hate us, go figure. Really, what business do we have over there? Or anywhere for that matter. No country has attempted to invade the us since England. Who is threatening us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt.Storm Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 Just now, Anler said: We have been covertly overthrowing their democratically elected governments since the 50's and deliberately causing civil unrest. Now they hate us, go figure. Really, what business do we have over there? Or anywhere for that matter. No country has attempted to invade the us since England. Who is threatening us? that's how you see it i guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 1 minute ago, Capt.Storm said: that's how you see it i guess. It's the truth. Do a google. We armed, trained and financed the recent overthrow of Gaddafi and attempted overthrow of Assad . The Syrian resistors are what became Isis. And now that all of these countries are in shambles the refugees need somewhere to go and Oh, we can't have that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Capt.Storm Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 Just now, Anler said: It's the truth. Do a google. We armed, trained and financed the recent overthrow of Gaddafi and attempted overthrow of Assad . The Syrian resistors are what became Isis. And now that all of these countries are in shambles the refugees need somewhere to go and Oh, we can't have that! well we are the police state of the whole world..what do you expect..if we do nothing the world bitchs..if we do something same thing happens of course...you can't please everybody...it is what it is and won't change unless something huge happens..and prolly not even then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt.Storm Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 but at least everybody can blame bush. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 1 minute ago, Capt.Storm said: well we are the police state of the whole world..what do you expect..if we do nothing the world bitchs..if we do something same thing happens of course...you can't please everybody...it is what it is and won't change unless something huge happens..and prolly not even then. Fucking stupid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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