racer254 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 7 hours ago, Jimmy Snacks said: Fuck you are mind numbingingly stupid and miss every point that comes your way. LOL. You really just have no comebacks is why you're mad. Sorry for you luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted November 12, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted November 12, 2018 31 minutes ago, racer254 said: LOL. You really just have no comebacks is why you're mad. Sorry for you luck. There are no comebacks for a guy like you that routinely misses the point either intentionally or just because.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 (edited) I don't miss the point at all, I just bring in counter points from the same groups and the one common denominator is that they all rely on money from the government and they all seem to be articles written by liberals. Funny. Edited November 12, 2018 by racer254 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayward Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 We need more desk jobs..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold War Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 20 hours ago, racer254 said: Isn't this funny. They can't ever make up their mind. BUT, AFJ says they are obese, yet other say 40 million people struggle with hunger in the United States, including more than 12 million children I think at the very least it is worthy of discussion. Are Americans dying & racking up medical costs because of starvation or obesity? Who exactly is overweight? Is it economic, racial, gender, age, all across the board? My own fact less observation. Last week we were at an 80's concert. I would say most everyone there was in our age group. I was stuck by the amount of skinny women that were there vs when we go to a regular club. You would think it would be the other way around with older women being heavier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkevsdi Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, Cold War said: I think at the very least it is worthy of discussion. Are Americans dying & racking up medical costs because of starvation or obesity? Who exactly is overweight? Is it economic, racial, gender, age, all across the board? My own fact less observation. Last week we were at an 80's concert. I would say most everyone there was in our age group. I was stuck by the amount of skinny women that were there vs when we go to a regular club. You would think it would be the other way around with older women being heavier. It probably depends where you go. It takes money and time to eat healthy food. Grabbing ready made food at the grocery store adds the lbs. It takes time and usually money to have time to work out. Most of the crowd our age are fit. But I think our generation was the first ones where women were into aerobics. I think it stuck with them. A lot of my wife’s friends regularly hit the gym. A lot of my friends board, sled, bike, kayak,run whatever. Our motivation for staying fit is so we can keep doing the sports we like. So we are usually reasonably fit. Then you hit the grocery store and think that no one works out. When my kids were in university most of their friends were ripped. But then again they were people they met with similar interests. Climbing, mountain biking etc. At their graduation, I was surprised how out of shape many of the students were. Hopefully the health warnings get through to people. It’s expensive to take care of fatties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold War Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 4 minutes ago, revkevsdi said: It probably depends where you go. It takes money and time to eat healthy food. Grabbing ready made food at the grocery store adds the lbs. It takes time and usually money to have time to work out. Most of the crowd our age are fit. But I think our generation was the first ones where women were into aerobics. I think it stuck with them. A lot of my wife’s friends regularly hit the gym. A lot of my friends board, sled, bike, kayak,run whatever. Our motivation for staying fit is so we can keep doing the sports we like. So we are usually reasonably fit. Then you hit the grocery store and think that no one works out. When my kids were in university most of their friends were ripped. But then again they were people they met with similar interests. Climbing, mountain biking etc. At their graduation, I was surprised how out of shape many of the students were. Hopefully the health warnings get through to people. It’s expensive to take care of fatties. I think it is a lot more acceptable to be overweight. I think packaged processed food is way more expensive. I feel like a lot of these kids are getting big at a young age, from inactivity and as you get older it is way harder to shed pounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkevsdi Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, Cold War said: I think it is a lot more acceptable to be overweight. I think packaged processed food is way more expensive. I feel like a lot of these kids are getting big at a young age, from inactivity and as you get older it is way harder to shed pounds. When we took the kids to Disney years ago I was shocked at the amount of kids my kids age who were being pushed in rented scooters and the amount of people my parents age that were in motorized scooters. Plus all the adults in scooters at grocery stores etc. I wondered if 10-45 was the only ages people were expected to walk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkevsdi Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 I’ve also wondered what the media message was really doing. Fear of anorexia no fat shaming be satisfied with your body etc. Vs the 70’s and 80’s where they were encouraging fitness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted November 12, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted November 12, 2018 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Cold War said: I think it is a lot more acceptable to be overweight. I think packaged processed food is way more expensive. I feel like a lot of these kids are getting big at a young age, from inactivity and as you get older it is way harder to shed pounds. I think its completely the opposite. The cheapest stuff is the most processed. Eating healthy in general is more expensive calorie per calorie. Poor eating, lack of exercise, stress and plenty of alcohol and recreational/prescription drugs makes for a generally unhealthy population but for the most part we have nobody to blame but ourselves. Edited November 12, 2018 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold War Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 15 minutes ago, revkevsdi said: When we took the kids to Disney years ago I was shocked at the amount of kids my kids age who were being pushed in rented scooters and the amount of people my parents age that were in motorized scooters. Plus all the adults in scooters at grocery stores etc. I wondered if 10-45 was the only ages people were expected to walk. Yeah, same here. The scooter thing is very bizarre. It is like bumper cars in the grocery store with all overweight people on the scooters. I noticed last time I was down town the amount of electric scooters 🛴. Popping up everywhere. The bikes you can rent, not so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold War Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 4 minutes ago, Highmark said: I think its completely the opposite. The cheapest stuff is the most processed. Eating healthy in general is more expensive calorie per calorie. Poor eating, lack of exercise, stress and plenty of alcohol and recreational/prescription drugs makes for a generally unhealthy population but for the most part we have nobody to blame but ourselves. I just push the kart, but next time I go , Ian going to pay more attention to prices. I do know a couple hundred dollars buys about a half kart. Food has definitely gotten a lot more expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted November 12, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted November 12, 2018 4 minutes ago, Cold War said: I just push the kart, but next time I go , Ian going to pay more attention to prices. I do know a couple hundred dollars buys about a half kart. Food has definitely gotten a lot more expensive. I'm talking calorie per calorie. If you were to eat 2000 calories of food per day its more expensive to do fresh than unprocessed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkevsdi Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Highmark said: I think its completely the opposite. The cheapest stuff is the most processed. Eating healthy in general is more expensive calorie per calorie. Poor eating, lack of exercise, stress and plenty of alcohol and recreational/prescription drugs makes for a generally unhealthy population but for the most part we have nobody to blame but ourselves. I agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkevsdi Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Highmark said: I'm talking calorie per calorie. If you were to eat 2000 calories of food per day its more expensive to do fresh than unprocessed. It’s not just the cost at the grocery store. In order to eat healthy you need the time to prepare the food. Making a salad vs nuking a hot pocket or whatever people nuke nowadays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted November 12, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted November 12, 2018 21 minutes ago, revkevsdi said: It’s not just the cost at the grocery store. In order to eat healthy you need the time to prepare the food. Making a salad vs nuking a hot pocket or whatever people nuke nowadays. True. In any case calorie intake and exercise are some of the biggest factors in healthy living. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Highmark said: I think its completely the opposite. The cheapest stuff is the most processed. Eating healthy in general is more expensive calorie per calorie. Poor eating, lack of exercise, stress and plenty of alcohol and recreational/prescription drugs makes for a generally unhealthy population but for the most part we have nobody to blame but ourselves. Indeed. Indeed. Also, the cheapest is the best tasting so, it's tough to not grab a family size bag of doritoes for the same price as a bag of oranges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Highmark said: I think its completely the opposite. The cheapest stuff is the most processed. Eating healthy in general is more expensive calorie per calorie. Poor eating, lack of exercise, stress and plenty of alcohol and recreational/prescription drugs makes for a generally unhealthy population but for the most part we have nobody to blame but ourselves. A lot of the diners around here and the grocery stores have food prepared pretty much the same plain way we do it ourselves. It costs more but its there. I find the bigger issue with restaurants while on the road as we rarely eat out at home. Everything prepared in butter etc, you can ask to have it without, and the portions in the US, are you kidding me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 2 hours ago, revkevsdi said: I’ve also wondered what the media message was really doing. Fear of anorexia no fat shaming be satisfied with your body etc. Vs the 70’s and 80’s where they were encouraging fitness Yes, lets bring that back. Can't have a commercial without some fat chicks to make it look normal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold War Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 I was watching a news program, I think it originated in some women’s magazine. They were making the claim that maybe be overweight isn’t necessarily bad. Common sense should tell you if you strap an extra 50 - 100 lbs on your back it is going to be harder on your body. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkevsdi Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Cold War said: I was watching a news program, I think it originated in some women’s magazine. They were making the claim that maybe be overweight isn’t necessarily bad. Common sense should tell you if you strap an extra 50 - 100 lbs on your back it is going to be harder on your body. To hell with 50, put 20lbs in a back pack and walk around with it all day. someone said that if obese people could spend a day in a fit persons body that would be all the motivation they need. I disagree, how many college or high school "athletes" let themselves go to shit when it doesn't turn into a career option. I don't understand how they can put the two messages together: obesity is an epidemic and be proud of being fat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkevsdi Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 1 hour ago, ArcticCrusher said: Yes, lets bring that back. Can't have a commercial without some fat chicks to make it look normal. I much prefer the tv sitcoms where the woman is fit as fuck and the guy is a fat slob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted November 12, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted November 12, 2018 I cant eat boxed shit. It disgusts me. Every night but Friday we cook. Meat , a carb and at least 2 fresh veggies. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 37 minutes ago, steve from amherst said: I cant eat boxed shit. It disgusts me. Every night but Friday we cook. Meat , a carb and at least 2 fresh veggies. I agree! Same here. It's not that hard to cook fresh and cheap too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 7 hours ago, Highmark said: I'm talking calorie per calorie. If you were to eat 2000 calories of food per day its more expensive to do fresh than unprocessed. Not calorie for calorie. I just googled Tyson chicken fingers -$7.99 2#. Fresh chicken breast average $3.80#. No breading so less calories, but 1 minute cutting and seasoning, bake and enjoy, for a much healthier meal. 6 hours ago, revkevsdi said: It’s not just the cost at the grocery store. In order to eat healthy you need the time to prepare the food. Making a salad vs nuking a hot pocket or whatever people nuke nowadays. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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