f7ben Posted September 13, 2016 Author Share Posted September 13, 2016 Just now, Legend said: Where did I say he was wrong? In fact I said he was right. But 95% of that post had nothing to do with the result. actually the majority of the content of that post was very relevant to Crushers claim that belt thickness indeed changes the ratio ....Crusher was wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 7 minutes ago, f7ben said: I'm guessing you are a legend at the local truck stop glory hole !!!!! FAGGOT !!!!!! Lame. Are you momo's little brother? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SVT MXZ XRS Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 3 minutes ago, f7ben said: dave drew and jasmings did and it was the most pathetic thing I had ever seen .....I instantly demanded that Jammings march right down to that private engineering school that he dumped 100k at for Drew's degree and get his money back It was with a track. It was fucking hilarious Gayeve had his velcro shoes in and jeans and it was probably 90*+ out Dreaux need to post the video Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted September 13, 2016 Author Share Posted September 13, 2016 1 minute ago, SVT Renegade XRS said: It was with a track. It was fucking hilarious Gayeve had his velcro shoes in and jeans and it was probably 90*+ out Dreaux need to post the video my god was it pathetic Drew would have been kicked out of school if any of his instructors saw that shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SVT MXZ XRS Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 Someone should punch Jamben right in his cocksucker for raising such a dummy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted September 13, 2016 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 13, 2016 Just now, SVT Renegade XRS said: Someone should punch Jamben right in his cocksucker for raising such a dummy Who in the end all still thought it made a difference? MachZnot, Neal, Jammin and Vince? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted September 13, 2016 Author Share Posted September 13, 2016 Just now, Highmark said: Who in the end all still thought it made a difference? MachZnot, Neal, Jammin and Vince? znot never got it...Neal was clinging to the lug flick but he knew it was bullshit nobody else that I can think of....eventually everyone realized how dumb they were Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 6 hours ago, Highmark said: However, my old speed track was 3.29 pitch and there were two sprocket teeth between each lug, the front side of the first lug was under load during acceleration, the back side of the second lug was under load during braking. In this case a 12 tooth 3.29 sprocket has only 6 driving teeth. The beauty of that is - with the speed tracks and stainless plates on the inside of the track, you could place the stud head and plate right between the sprocket teeth and run rows of studs inline with the sprockets. When you try to do this on a 2.52 pitch track, the stud heads and plates get into the way of the sprocket teeth. I know this is not the case with the 0.525 profile grouser bar tracks because you can use a stud with a flush profile head that can be run inline with the sprocket teeth but then you need to run the hyfax right on the rubber and in speed runs that means lots of slide rail lube – tanks, pumps, battery. 6 hours ago, Highmark said: I realize that some of the present day tracks are convolute drive or combination of involute and convolute. REGARDLESS – the pitch diameter of the track/sprocket combination is the same as the neutral axis in the track band or carcass. The neutral axis is the same location as the tensile cord in the track. Otherwise as the track bends around the sprocket, the cord would try to stretch and compress and that would lead to cord separation and track failure. If I remember correctly, the neutral axis is approx 45% of the distance from the inner surface of the track band to the outer surface of the track band. The thickness of the track band is the thinnest section of the track, the majority of the track band thickness not counting where embossments and such are located. 6 hours ago, Highmark said: Some feature on the convolute sprocket will support the inside surface of the track. Either it’s the round cylinder just inside the sprocket teeth or it could be were the track clips sit in the base of the sprocket teeth – which makes it more difficult to determine sprocket effective OD, track thickness, and neutral axis location. Regardless, the sprocket designer has taken this into account so all the driving teeth on the sprocket have even contact on the track lugs as the track bends around the sprockets. Show me how any of this has to do with final drive? Yes the center of the track is the axis. But what about the rest? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SVT MXZ XRS Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 1 minute ago, Highmark said: Who in the end all still thought it made a difference? MachZnot, Neal, Jammin and Vince? Idk for sure who all. Add a few to that too Was a poll on the old site. ZLZEdud was one of them too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted September 13, 2016 Author Share Posted September 13, 2016 1 minute ago, Legend said: Show me how any of that has to do with final drive? Yes the center of the track is the axis. But what about the rest? The center of the track may be the axis but in a tracked vehicle application that doesnt matter in the least.....the only portion of the rotation that matters is along the flat axis of the rail and the inside and outside of the belt are moving at identical rates there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 (edited) 6 hours ago, Highmark said: 3 minutes ago, f7ben said: The center of the track may be the axis but in a tracked vehicle application that doesnt matter in the least.....the only portion of the rotation that matters is along the flat axis of the rail and the inside and outside of the belt are moving at identical rates there No shit genius. How would the center of track move at a different rate than the inside or outside? 6 hours ago, Highmark said: 6 hours ago, Highmark said: Edited September 13, 2016 by Legend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 not sure how my quotes got all fucked up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted September 13, 2016 Author Share Posted September 13, 2016 Just now, Legend said: No shit genius. How would the center off track move at a different rate than the inside or outside? My post was made in response to Crusher's repeated claims that belt thickness indeed affects final drive ratio .....if you are smart enough to agree with me very good then 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckf Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 3 minutes ago, SVT Renegade XRS said: Idk for sure who all. Add a few to that too Was a poll on the old site. ZLZEdud was one of them too Is he still around on any of the other sites? @Mileage Psycho do you still keep in touch with him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted September 13, 2016 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 13, 2016 2 minutes ago, Legend said: Show me how any of this has to do with final drive? Yes the center of the track is the axis. But what about the rest? In my opinion he was mainly talking about calculating the final constant in the puzzle. Drive sprocket diam or pitch diameter. Its the only piece of the puzzle that has somewhat of a variable. Its really not that hard to comprehend what he was getting across. I asked him a very simple question and like any engineer a simple answer doesn't always follow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 Just now, f7ben said: My post was made in response to Crusher's repeated claims that belt thickness indeed affects final drive ratio .....if you are smart enough to agree with me very good then ok then. quit being a faggot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted September 13, 2016 Author Share Posted September 13, 2016 Just now, Legend said: ok then. quit being a faggot you first 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckf Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 Just now, Legend said: ok then. quit being a faggot That would be a hard task for him to follow through with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SVT MXZ XRS Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 2 minutes ago, ckf said: Is he still around on any of the other sites? @Mileage Psycho do you still keep in touch with him? No idea. Guys a fruit loop 1 minute ago, ckf said: That would be a hard task for him to follow through with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Highmark said: In my opinion he was mainly talking about calculating the final constant in the puzzle. Drive sprocket diam or pitch diameter. Its the only piece of the puzzle that has somewhat of a variable. Its really not that hard to comprehend what he was getting across. I asked him a very simple question and like any engineer a simple answer doesn't always follow. A 7 tooth 2.86 drive gear can only be one diameter. Same for a 8 tooth 2.86, or a 9 tooth 2.52, etc. So comparing apples to apples, a different lug track on the same tooth drive of the same pitch, it makes absolutely no difference. edit. maybe you were saying the same thing and i just didn't read it right? if so, ben is still a faggot Edited September 13, 2016 by Legend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted September 13, 2016 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 13, 2016 8 minutes ago, Legend said: A 7 tooth 2.86 drive gear can only be one diameter. Same for a 8 tooth 2.86, or a 9 tooth 2.52, etc. So comparing apples to apples, a different lug track on the same tooth drive of the same pitch, it makes absolutely no difference. edit. maybe you were saying the same thing and i just didn't read it right? if so, ben is still a faggot Again I think he was mainly referencing the difference between the convolute and involute driver types pending where the drive sprocket tooth is in contact with the track (pitch diameter) and really talking about tolerances. He somewhat missed the constant reference I gave him but in the end he was correct saying lug height doesn't change final drive ratio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member Stephen Hawking Posted September 13, 2016 Gold Member Share Posted September 13, 2016 3 hours ago, ckf said: Is he still around on any of the other sites? @Mileage Psycho do you still keep in touch with him? He probably thinks VS took over the site because he has to register again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckf Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 Just now, Stephen Hawking said: He probably thinks VS took over the site because he has to register again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mileage Psycho Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 4 hours ago, ckf said: Is he still around on any of the other sites? @Mileage Psycho do you still keep in touch with him? Johnny sent a text about a month ago to say hello, he's a good guy Stopping for a break at the tree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted September 14, 2016 Author Share Posted September 14, 2016 tell him to pop in here Vince Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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