Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted August 18, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted August 18, 2018 9 minutes ago, DriftBusta said: what are you 2 dipshits on about now? He's right on the money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted August 18, 2018 Author Share Posted August 18, 2018 Just now, Mileage Psycho said: The problem with long distance CC races is that they are not conducive to crowds of paying spectators. True. But, it's not just that. There has to be a way to deliver this to the masses who cannot/will not drive to the race. It's a bit of an expensive logistical problem. Use of drones and strategicly placed cameras along some of the more technical terrain along with rider cameras would work well but then, you have editing (nobody is gonna watch hours and hours of racing) and again, $$$$$, SX type racing can do well because of the smaller tracks and short exciting races that are easy to film and edit. It sucks.I wish there was an answer but if the ones in charge can't figure it out, it is what it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted August 18, 2018 Author Share Posted August 18, 2018 1 minute ago, Jimmy Snacks said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckf Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 I think Cain's Quest is down to every other year. Could that be an option for ID? Maybe opposite years of the CQ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted August 18, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted August 18, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, ckf said: I think Cain's Quest is down to every other year. Could that be an option for ID? Maybe opposite years of the CQ? Does Team Maine run that as well as The Iron Dog? Edited August 18, 2018 by Jimmy Snacks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frostynuts Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Raw, raw, raw, my brand won. I must be great. Only idiots care. Brand loyalty is for week minded suckers, that aren,t smart enough to make smart decisions, on their own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 9 minutes ago, Mileage Psycho said: The problem with long distance CC races is that they are not conducive to crowds of paying spectators. Agreed. They should consider teaming up with some mx track owners where you could bring some snow makers in when needed, but have room to bring in spectators, and have 2-3-4 minute laptimes, instead of these 20-30 second deals which are ridiculous, or as you said, a cross country race where there are no crowds.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 9 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said: Quiet now. Snowmobilers are talking here, not 50 something year old posers on kids sleds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckf Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Just now, Jimmy Snacks said: Does Team Maine run that as well as The Iron Dog? They ran the ID just once, I think? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted August 18, 2018 Author Share Posted August 18, 2018 Just now, DriftBusta said: Agreed. They should consider teaming up with some mx track owners where you could bring some snow makers in when needed, but have room to bring in spectators, and have 2-3-4 minute laptimes, instead of these 20-30 second deals which are ridiculous, or as you said, a cross country race where there are no crowds.. They did that "Red Bull Challenge" here a couple years back. I went with a buddy that raced it. It was a bit of a shit show but, it was a nice mix of terrain and it had a nice viewing area over a mile or so of cut SX/CC style track. Then, the riders dissappeared for the 5-8 miles until they came back around. I thought it was excellent! But, didn't make it to the second year in spite of what I saw were hundreds of entrance fees and a massive crowd that is usually only seen at SX races. Beats the fuck outa me??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodtick Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 The world famous east coast clutch kit ruined and destroyed the Iron Dog. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammin Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 10 hours ago, ActionfigureJoe said: One rideable day last year. And that was questionable. Southern 1/2 of WI has been awful for what seems like the last 3+ years. Northern has been okay but the temp fluctuations just screw everything up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted August 18, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted August 18, 2018 1 hour ago, DriftBusta said: Quiet now. Snowmobilers are talking here, not 50 something year old posers on kids sleds. Hahaha...that is priceless coming from a guy that brags about his trail racing prowess on a regular basis and FTR my kids sled is actually X Country Race Ready out of the box while you are frogging on the trails with SKS's and other such bullshit...oh but wait....I forgot that venturing offtrail a few yards and getting stuck for hours is considered "mountain riding" to the ECDL....what a dipshit! Now get back to working on that political loyalty oath required for membership in The Fagalaggio! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted August 18, 2018 Author Share Posted August 18, 2018 51 minutes ago, Woodtick said: The world famous east coast clutch kit ruined and destroyed the Iron Dog. Ricky is gonna be upset with this statement. You wanna tell him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 2 hours ago, ckf said: They ran the ID just once, I think? 2 or 3 times but the logistics suck End of the day so few people care about this stuff survival of any of these races is doubtful. Sponsors don't get any real value out of it unless you can use it to draw people into some other venture your running to make money which is why we have seen some of the player like Long Pond, Parlin and Pittston run them in Maine but reality is i don't think they even see a return on investment. if someones spending the time to go up to these areas when there is snow on the ground they want to ride not stand around watching people ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted August 18, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted August 18, 2018 3 minutes ago, Angry ginger said: 2 or 3 times but the logistics suck End of the day so few people care about this stuff survival of any of these races is doubtful. Sponsors don't get any real value out of it unless you can use it to draw people into some other venture your running to make money which is why we have seen some of the player like Long Pond, Parlin and Pittston run them in Maine but reality is i don't think they even see a return on investment. if someones spending the time to go up to these areas when there is snow on the ground they want to ride not stand around watching people ride. Tom could speak to this but other than in the villages, the start and the finish I don't think the ID is really about spectators. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Just now, Jimmy Snacks said: Tom could speak to this but other than in the villages, the start and the finish I don't think the ID is really about spectators. then what value is there to sponsors which ultimately becomes the reason these things fail 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodtick Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 31 minutes ago, Zambroski said: Ricky is gonna be upset with this statement. You wanna tell him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted August 18, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted August 18, 2018 Just now, Angry ginger said: then what value is there to sponsors which ultimately becomes the reason these things fail Again Tom could speak to this better as I'm not familiar with all the sponsors and what their exposure is during the race. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKIQPilot Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 The National Guard was the last major title sponsor. If they can get a handful of village kids to sign up to give their life fighting for freedom then its money well spent........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted August 18, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted August 18, 2018 1 minute ago, AKIQPilot said: The National Guard was the last major title sponsor. If they can get a handful of village kids to sign up to give their life fighting for freedom then its money well spent........ Well yeah but that sounds like a way out the village as well...help pay for schooling as well as long they can avoid getting killed or maimed in some place we have no business being. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKIQPilot Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said: Well yeah but that sounds like a way out the village as well...help pay for schooling as well as long they can avoid getting killed or maimed in some place we have no business being. Roger that to all of the above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 12 minutes ago, AKIQPilot said: The National Guard was the last major title sponsor. If they can get a handful of village kids to sign up to give their life fighting for freedom then its money well spent........ Not likely if Franky has gotten to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted August 18, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted August 18, 2018 5 minutes ago, DAVE said: Not likely if Franky has gotten to them. Hahaha! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted August 18, 2018 Author Share Posted August 18, 2018 8 minutes ago, DAVE said: Not likely if Franky has gotten to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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