revrnd Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 2 hours ago, 02sled said: People are way too tired of Wyneebags condescending attitude.... we can waste your money much better than you can.... we know what you need better than you do. We can sing this to Wynnebag. Altogether now. You can say that again. Treating adults like they're children that can't do anything w/o the gov't telling what to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 (edited) "Thank you everybody, thank you for the eye candy behind me". Must be fake Toronto Sun. http://torontosun.com/news/provincial/finance-minister-charles-sousa-calls-medical-professionals-eye-candy Edited March 23, 2018 by ArcticCrusher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revrnd Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 They're just mailing it in so to speak. They know their collective geese are cooked so they dont give a fuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 1 hour ago, ArcticCrusher said: "Thank you everybody, thank you for the eye candy behind me". Must be fake Toronto Sun. http://torontosun.com/news/provincial/finance-minister-charles-sousa-calls-medical-professionals-eye-candy CBC reported this live as it happened, so ya its true sometimes things sound better in your head before you blurt them out Clearly an old dude trying to sound young and cool and not realizing the real meaning of the statement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 useless Sunshine list is out, Doug says ............. nothing but a catch phrase, while complaining about real workers not getting a raise ( while the PC party fought the min wage increase) When Mike the Spike introduced the list only 5k were on it, but that was then and this is 22 years later where 100k is now 150k.... The list would then be less than 10k on it Funny how Nurses don't make the list, but Cops and Teachers do in masses got to love stats Overtime shouldn't count in this calculation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 34 minutes ago, 1trailmaker said: useless Sunshine list is out, Doug says ............. nothing but a catch phrase, while complaining about real workers not getting a raise ( while the PC party fought the min wage increase) When Mike the Spike introduced the list only 5k were on it, but that was then and this is 22 years later where 100k is now 150k.... The list would then be less than 10k on it Funny how Nurses don't make the list, but Cops and Teachers do in masses got to love stats Overtime shouldn't count in this calculation Don't worry, if they continue to hold the bar, eventually you will make the list. OT should count, but maybe listed separately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 54 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: Don't worry, if they continue to hold the bar, eventually you will make the list. OT should count, but maybe listed separately. no it shouldn't count Just because we have a ice storm shouldn't mean another 100 on the list. The list was suppose to give an idea of wages earned, very misleading to the dumb public that can't read past a headline Life contractors should also be listed, how much they were paid for all jobs, CEO's and employees ect. You are on the gravy train Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 44 minutes ago, 1trailmaker said: no it shouldn't count Just because we have a ice storm shouldn't mean another 100 on the list. The list was suppose to give an idea of wages earned, very misleading to the dumb public that can't read past a headline Life contractors should also be listed, how much they were paid for all jobs, CEO's and employees ect. You are on the gravy train What is it supposed to suggest if not wages earned? How is it misleading? Yes they should increase yhe limit buts thats another matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revrnd Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 7 hours ago, 1trailmaker said: CBC reported this live as it happened, so ya its true sometimes things sound better in your head before you blurt them out Clearly an old dude trying to sound young and cool and not realizing the real meaning of the statement Provincial version of the self-proclaimed 'coolest guy in Toronto', Norm Kelly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 1 hour ago, ArcticCrusher said: What is it supposed to suggest if not wages earned? How is it misleading? Yes they should increase yhe limit buts thats another matter. overtime is not your wage, its extra Misleading - TEACHER - 128k - doesn't Teach kids anymore Clearner 110k - doesn't clean anymore There are thousands of misleading job titles making people upset. cool though I have always wanted Contractors (lifers) included, now Hydro isn't including many high earners Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Blackstar Posted March 24, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 24, 2018 (edited) 7 hours ago, 1trailmaker said: overtime is not your wage, its extra Misleading - TEACHER - 128k - doesn't Teach kids anymore Clearner 110k - doesn't clean anymore There are thousands of misleading job titles making people upset. cool though I have always wanted Contractors (lifers) included, now Hydro isn't including many high earners Sure it is. You don't think those people count on that over time as part of their earns? The average household income has only increased by 60% in the last 30 years but the sunshine list has increased by 4 X even with inflation adjustment. There is a ton of fat to be trimmed. Run the numbers again Trail and get back to us. Edited March 24, 2018 by Blackstar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 11 hours ago, 1trailmaker said: overtime is not your wage, its extra Misleading - TEACHER - 128k - doesn't Teach kids anymore Clearner 110k - doesn't clean anymore There are thousands of misleading job titles making people upset. cool though I have always wanted Contractors (lifers) included, now Hydro isn't including many high earners That is bs and you know it. It will say Teacher - Elementary or Teacher - Secondary cause they actually do teach in the classroom. At 128k it will say Principal -Secondary. Hydro should still be on the list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sksman Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 (edited) 18 hours ago, 1trailmaker said: useless Sunshine list is out, Doug says ............. nothing but a catch phrase, while complaining about real workers not getting a raise ( while the PC party fought the min wage increase) When Mike the Spike introduced the list only 5k were on it, but that was then and this is 22 years later where 100k is now 150k.... The list would then be less than 10k on it Funny how Nurses don't make the list, but Cops and Teachers do in masses got to love stats Overtime shouldn't count in this calculation Every penny someone makes on government job should be included. Including those whose pensions are over $100,000 paid by government. Fail, if you want to work somewhere else and not have your income released then your free to do so. I hear pot shops will be hiring in your area around June 10th. You should apply. Just don’t try to talk anything financial and maybe your product knowledge will get you the job. Edited March 24, 2018 by Sksman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02sled Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 44 minutes ago, Sksman said: Every penny someone makes on government job should be included. Including those whose pensions are over $100,000 paid by government. Fail, if you want to work somewhere else and not have your income released then your free to do so. I hear pot shops will be hiring in your area around June 10th. You should apply. Just don’t try to talk anything financial and maybe your product knowledge will get you the job. The pot shops are still run by the province... so shouldn't they be on the list as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sksman Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 49 minutes ago, 02sled said: The pot shops are still run by the province... so shouldn't they be on the list as well. Catch up 02. Doug Ford will cut that beuracracy out first. I read in the papers that the Wynne government has managed to construct a health care system with more beuracrats then doctors. That’s right. We don’t need doctors. We just need more government waste to manage doctors. Wynn3 will worry about $200,000 in OHIP overbilling and hire $1million in government workers to stop a $200,000 issue. And Fail these are mad up numbers to highlight a point that the Liberals under Wynne and Eric the cocksucker Hoskins have destroyed the medical system. And you know they have because now Wynne is throwing $860million at healthcare to fix the issues caused by her and Hoskins and 15 years of Liberal waste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02sled Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Sksman said: Catch up 02. Doug Ford will cut that beuracracy out first. I read in the papers that the Wynne government has managed to construct a health care system with more beuracrats then doctors. That’s right. We don’t need doctors. We just need more government waste to manage doctors. Wynn3 will worry about $200,000 in OHIP overbilling and hire $1million in government workers to stop a $200,000 issue. And Fail these are mad up numbers to highlight a point that the Liberals under Wynne and Eric the cocksucker Hoskins have destroyed the medical system. And you know they have because now Wynne is throwing $860million at healthcare to fix the issues caused by her and Hoskins and 15 years of Liberal waste. I know... that's the Doug plan. But the way it stands at the moment the Wynnebag plan is still a government bureaucracy that will run the pot stores. As for the medical system... I agree. Wynnebag and Dulton have perpetrated significant damage on the medical system. Based on what OHIP pays lots of doctors limit their time per patient to 15 minutes and out you go. I'm lucky though. My doctor will take whatever time is necessary to address your concern properly. He does although require multiple appointments for multiple problems. If you have concerns about blood pressure that's one appointment and a rash is another appointment. They can be back to back but don't count as one so that he can be paid appropriately for his time. The sudden "care" approach spending is nothing more than a last minute scramble to try and save their jobs since they know their days are numbered. Edited March 24, 2018 by 02sled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 35 minutes ago, Sksman said: Catch up 02. Doug Ford will cut that beuracracy out first. I read in the papers that the Wynne government has managed to construct a health care system with more beuracrats then doctors. That’s right. We don’t need doctors. We just need more government waste to manage doctors. Wynn3 will worry about $200,000 in OHIP overbilling and hire $1million in government workers to stop a $200,000 issue. And Fail these are mad up numbers to highlight a point that the Liberals under Wynne and Eric the cocksucker Hoskins have destroyed the medical system. And you know they have because now Wynne is throwing $860million at healthcare to fix the issues caused by her and Hoskins and 15 years of Liberal waste. Well Doug is spot on about hallway healthcare. Disgusting, more bureaucrats should help though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 Batra nails it. http://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/batra-shut-your-mouth-the-liberals-said-what 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 8 hours ago, ArcticCrusher said: That is bs and you know it. It will say Teacher - Elementary or Teacher - Secondary cause they actually do teach in the classroom. At 128k it will say Principal -Secondary. Hydro should still be on the list. sorry AC you are incorrect Robert Gascho Teacher Waterloo Region District School Board $179,884.74 Stephen Elkerton Teacher Elementary Toronto District School Board $168,271.31 1000's of examples Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 6 hours ago, Sksman said: Every penny someone makes on government job should be included. Including those whose pensions are over $100,000 paid by government. Fail, if you want to work somewhere else and not have your income released then your free to do so. I hear pot shops will be hiring in your area around June 10th. You should apply. Just don’t try to talk anything financial and maybe your product knowledge will get you the job. you are lying, Contractors making millions of dollars are not on the list and you are happy about that. Its your tax dollars being spent so what is the difference who gets pensions paid by the government? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 (edited) 24 minutes ago, 1trailmaker said: sorry AC you are incorrect Robert Gascho Teacher Waterloo Region District School Board $179,884.74 Stephen Elkerton Teacher Elementary Toronto District School Board $168,271.31 1000's of examples Come on now, a teacher at $180K. Those are reported errors and certainly not the norm. https://www.osstf.on.ca/about-us/how-we-are-organized/provincial-executive/rob-gascho.aspx Edited March 24, 2018 by ArcticCrusher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 15 minutes ago, 1trailmaker said: you are lying, Contractors making millions of dollars are not on the list and you are happy about that. Its your tax dollars being spent so what is the difference who gets pensions paid by the government? You just want to know how much the owners are making. The value of the contract is public, that is all that matters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 1 minute ago, ArcticCrusher said: Come on now, a teacher at $180K. Those are reported errors and certainly not the norm. there are over 1000 of them AC, I can find other jobs titles Those are not reporting errors, that persons actual title never changed but their tasks did. Happens all the time The list is useless for the most part, no one reads it they just complain about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: You just want to know how much the owners are making. The value of the contract is public, that is all that matters. I want to know how much the employees are being paid with tax dollars BIAS BS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 8 minutes ago, 1trailmaker said: there are over 1000 of them AC, I can find other jobs titles Those are not reporting errors, that persons actual title never changed but their tasks did. Happens all the time The list is useless for the most part, no one reads it they just complain about it For the most part they are listed correctly. Wife is listed as Vice Principal - Secondary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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