Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted May 30, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 30, 2018 15 hours ago, revkevsdi said: Violent crime also dropped considerably 16 years after roe vs wade. The main study on that has been disputed. I wouldn't argue on the surface it would make sense. 2005 criticism by Foote and Goetz[edit] Later in 2005, Christopher Foote and Christopher Goetz claimed that a computer error in Levitt and Donahue's statistical analysis led to an artificially inflated relationship between legalized abortion and crime reduction. Once other crime-associated factors were properly controlled for, they claimed that the effect of abortion on arrests was reduced by about half. Foote and Goetz also criticize Levitt and Donahue's use of arrest totals rather than arrests per capita, which takes population size into account. Using Census Bureau population estimates, Foote and Goetz repeated the analysis using arrest rates in place of simple arrest totals, and found that the effect of abortion disappeared entirely.[11] Donohue and Levitt subsequently published a response to the Foote and Goetz paper.[12] The response acknowledged the mistake, but showed that with different methodology, the effect of legalized abortion on crime rates still existed. Foote and Goetz, however, soon produced a rebuttal of their own and showed that even after analyzing the data using the methods that Levitt and Donohue recommend, the data does not show a positive correlation between abortion rates and crime rates.[13] They are quick to point out that this does not necessarily disprove Levitt's thesis, however, and emphasize that with data this messy and incomplete, it is in all likelihood not even possible to prove or disprove Donohue and Levitt's conclusion. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legalized_abortion_and_crime_effect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted May 30, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 30, 2018 15 hours ago, Nazipigdog said: The reasons are obvious. Alot of women stayed married because they didnt have any other options. Never worked and had no way to make a living on their own. Once they started having careers they didnt need to depend on a husband to support them. Adios! Secondly alot of affairs happen in the work place, women are sneaky, lying selfish cunts and start banging dudes at work. Happens all the time. The womens independence movement basically turned women into whores. Whores with bank accounts. Not debating that general aspect of it but when you look at the massive jump in divorce it does not correlate with a massive jump in women entering the workforce. Seems to me there should be more correlation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 26 minutes ago, Highmark said: Not debating that general aspect of it but when you look at the massive jump in divorce it does not correlate with a massive jump in women entering the workforce. Seems to me there should be more correlation. disagree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted May 30, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 30, 2018 1 minute ago, Nazipigdog said: disagree So there wasn't a massive jump in divorce rates in the mid 60's? Maybe it wasn't the modern welfare system or women entering the workforce. Maybe it was the drugs and free love hippy culture. Women entered the workforce in massive scale during WW2. I'd have to look and see if the divorce rate skyrocketed then. I'm guessing not from where the early statistics show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 Just now, Highmark said: So there wasn't a massive jump in divorce rates in the mid 60's? Maybe it wasn't the modern welfare system or women entering the workforce. Maybe it was the drugs and free love hippy culture. Women entered the workforce in massive scale during WW2. I'd have to look and see if the divorce rate skyrocketed then. I'm guessing not from where the early statistics show. Right when the hippie and womens rights movement started? yep id say there was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted May 30, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 30, 2018 Just now, Nazipigdog said: Right when the hippie and womens rights movement started? yep id say there was. Sure that movement contributed but there is no particular jump in women entering the workforce at the time of the jump in the divorce rate. That's the data. The increase in women in the workforce is much more linear pattern. The divorce rate had a dramatic increase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 4 minutes ago, Highmark said: Sure that movement contributed but there is no particular jump in women entering the workforce at the time of the jump in the divorce rate. That's the data. The increase in women in the workforce is much more linear pattern. The divorce rate had a dramatic increase. This was the 60's brah. This is when it started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Highmark said: Sure that movement contributed but there is no particular jump in women entering the workforce at the time of the jump in the divorce rate. That's the data. The increase in women in the workforce is much more linear pattern. The divorce rate had a dramatic increase. Divorce rates have been dropping quite significantly among college graduated couples. Only the less educated and lower income couples have the divorce rates remained at 1980 levels. The evidence indicates a woman leaves because she feels that she’s wasting her life with a non- productive man. Of course there’s many other reasons for divorce. But this is the dominant factor. Edited May 30, 2018 by spin_dry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted May 30, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 30, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, Nazipigdog said: This was the 60's brah. This is when it started. Stats don't correlate divorce and women entering the workforce. That's the stats brah. If you want to say the increase in divorce rate was tied to the women's lib movement that would be a better argument than women entering the workforce. Edited May 30, 2018 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 Just now, Highmark said: Stats don't correlate divorce and women entering the workforce. That's the stats brah. Maybe that's just when women realized men are shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted May 30, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 30, 2018 (edited) Just now, spin_dry said: Divorce have been dropping quite significantly among college graduated couples. Only the less educated and lower income couples have the divorce rates remained at 1980 levels. The evidence indicates a woman leaves because she feels that she’s wasting her life with a non- productive man. Of course there’s many other reasons for divorce. But this is the dominant factor. Oh no doubt lots of women are looking for the BBD. (choose whatever acronym you want. ) Edited May 30, 2018 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 6 minutes ago, motonoggin said: Maybe that's just when women realized men are shit. That’s the #1 factor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkevsdi Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 1 hour ago, Highmark said: The main study on that has been disputed. I wouldn't argue on the surface it would make sense. 2005 criticism by Foote and Goetz[edit] Later in 2005, Christopher Foote and Christopher Goetz claimed that a computer error in Levitt and Donahue's statistical analysis led to an artificially inflated relationship between legalized abortion and crime reduction. Once other crime-associated factors were properly controlled for, they claimed that the effect of abortion on arrests was reduced by about half. Foote and Goetz also criticize Levitt and Donahue's use of arrest totals rather than arrests per capita, which takes population size into account. Using Census Bureau population estimates, Foote and Goetz repeated the analysis using arrest rates in place of simple arrest totals, and found that the effect of abortion disappeared entirely.[11] Donohue and Levitt subsequently published a response to the Foote and Goetz paper.[12] The response acknowledged the mistake, but showed that with different methodology, the effect of legalized abortion on crime rates still existed. Foote and Goetz, however, soon produced a rebuttal of their own and showed that even after analyzing the data using the methods that Levitt and Donohue recommend, the data does not show a positive correlation between abortion rates and crime rates.[13] They are quick to point out that this does not necessarily disprove Levitt's thesis, however, and emphasize that with data this messy and incomplete, it is in all likelihood not even possible to prove or disprove Donohue and Levitt's conclusion. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legalized_abortion_and_crime_effect Thanks. I hadn’t read that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 3 hours ago, spin_dry said: That’s the #1 factor. Well women are nuts so there's that... Wife and I are friends with many professional couples and I bet you more than not the wife is the higher earner in the marriage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 6 minutes ago, Nazipigdog said: Well women are nuts so there's that... Wife and I are friends with many professional couples and I bet you more than not the wife is the higher earner in the marriage. My wife is the bread winner hands down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 26 minutes ago, Nazipigdog said: Well women are nuts so there's that... Wife and I are friends with many professional couples and I bet you more than not the wife is the higher earner in the marriage. I’m still good friends with my ex. We get along great and have a professional relationship that remains intact. I can’t say she was ever the crazy type. Maybe a little bit in our 20’s. A lot of professional couples can’t stand each other but stay together for the cash. I kinda get that. I couldn’t ever do it though. Money just isn’t that important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 38 minutes ago, spin_dry said: I’m still good friends with my ex. We get along great and have a professional relationship that remains intact. I can’t say she was ever the crazy type. Maybe a little bit in our 20’s. A lot of professional couples can’t stand each other but stay together for the cash. I kinda get that. I couldn’t ever do it though. Money just isn’t that important. For the cash or for the kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted May 30, 2018 Author Share Posted May 30, 2018 7 hours ago, Highmark said: Not debating that general aspect of it but when you look at the massive jump in divorce it does not correlate with a massive jump in women entering the workforce. Seems to me there should be more correlation. Your chart does not segregate woman in the workforce from woman in the professional workforce or full time part time etc etc etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washedupmxer Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 On 5/29/2018 at 4:52 PM, f7ben said: Its pretty obvious that school shootings are the result of entitled privileged white boys who have never dealt with any adversity at all in their upbringing. They get in the real world and people are mean to them and they dont know how to cope so they snap. Yep liberal snowflakes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted May 30, 2018 Author Share Posted May 30, 2018 3 minutes ago, washedupmxer said: Yep liberal snowflakes I dont think coddling is a partisan thing. Parents of all types in our generation have been coddling and cuddling and saying yes to everything and teaching their kids they are special etc etc etc. Literally from day one with my kid we did things to prepare her for disappointment and how to deal with not getting what you want. Let new born babies cry if there is nothing wrong. They do not need to be picked up every time they cry. Say no often when children ask for things. They need to hear the word no....it conditions them to understand they wont get everything they want later in life. Poke fun at your kids and embarrass them from time to time. I'm not saying abuse them emotionally but teaching someone to laugh at themselves from time to time is healthy. Teach kids to fail gracefully......its something to learn from not to be ashamed of. I could go on for days but what it boils down to is you get out what you put in .......invest some time in your kids. Enough of the fucking TV or now the electronics being the babysitter for 15 years. Parents that take an active role in their kids .... 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skidude600 Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 5 minutes ago, f7ben said: I dont think coddling is a partisan thing. Parents of all types in our generation have been coddling and cuddling and saying yes to everything and teaching their kids they are special etc etc etc. Literally from day one with my kid we did things to prepare her for disappointment and how to deal with not getting what you want. Let new born babies cry if there is nothing wrong. They do not need to be picked up every time they cry. Say no often when children ask for things. They need to hear the word no....it conditions them to understand they wont get everything they want later in life. Poke fun at your kids and embarrass them from time to time. I'm not saying abuse them emotionally but teaching someone to laugh at themselves from time to time is healthy. Teach kids to fail gracefully......its something to learn from not to be ashamed of. I could go on for days but what it boils down to is you get out what you put in .......invest some time in your kids. Enough of the fucking TV or now the electronics being the babysitter for 15 years. Parents that take an active role in their kids .... I couldn't agree more! Did your wife hack your account again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted May 30, 2018 Author Share Posted May 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, Skidude600 said: I couldn't agree more! Did your wife hack your account again? Yes this is Kate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skidude600 Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 Just now, f7ben said: Yes this is Kate I thought so. The lack of both F-word's, obligatory name calling and the fact that the post made sense, was a dead give away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted May 30, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 30, 2018 4 hours ago, ATOMIC PUNK said: My wife is the bread winner hands down. I wish mine was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted May 30, 2018 Author Share Posted May 30, 2018 1 minute ago, Skidude600 said: I thought so. The lack of both F-word's, obligatory name calling and the fact that the post made sense, was a dead give away. HAHAHAHAHA FOOLED YOU!!!111111 ........Now go fuck yourself Skinnedout600Dudes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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