Pete Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 2 hours ago, steve from amherst said: Hey if you want to live in a world where you are told everything to do and everyone makes your decisions for you , have at it. I prefer to make my own choices. That being said you cannot legislate human behavior. NH dosnt have a seatbelt law . 74 % of drivers wear one. Mass has a seatbelt law , 75% of drivers use one. NH dosnt have an auto ins law , 7 % of drivers don't have auto ins. NJ does have an auto ins law . 8 % of drivers drive without ins. It’s a secondary offense in mass. Can’t be pulled over for not wearing one. Connecticut you can be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted May 13, 2018 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 13, 2018 Just now, ATOMIC PUNK said: It’s a secondary offense in mass. Can’t be pulled over for not wearing one. Connecticut you can be Almost better not to wear one. Then when ya get pulled over for speeding they will usually give ya the $25 belt tix and let the speeding fly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodtick Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 2 hours ago, sledderj said: 15 year return on investment?? Try and get any bean counter to sign off on that if you are requesting a capital expenditure. It needs to be 2 or 3 years. Maybe 5 if it's for some progressive feel good initiative for the brain dead. This is the world I live in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodtick Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 1 hour ago, Nazipigdog said: Govt isn't fucking you enough? Fucking bravo my friend. Post of the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 1 hour ago, Rod Johnson said: If you have that kind of disposable income don’t you think it would be better off being used to help the poor rather than being wasted to satisfy your smug arrogance? Y not both Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Im4snow Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 3 hours ago, sledderj said: 15 year return on investment?? Try and get any bean counter to sign off on that if you are requesting a capital expenditure. It needs to be 2 or 3 years. Maybe 5 if it's for some progressive feel good initiative for the brain dead. Gov projections of ROI... Only a moron embraces more regulation after living through Obamacare. It's fascinating the folks who think Gov "solutions" help anyone, net. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted May 13, 2018 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 13, 2018 2 hours ago, Im4snow said: Gov projections of ROI... Only a moron embraces more regulation after living through Obamacare. It's fascinating the folks who think Gov "solutions" help anyone, net. " I'm from the gvmt and I'm here to help" Go fuck yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 5 hours ago, Zambroski said: I just love how the Librulz back every single peice of idiocy from the G'ment like good little sheep. "For the greater good"....ahhhh, liberal fascism! Excellent. I know this was a thread on HCS but I tried to see what solar would cost me on my house. What a fucking joke. I NEVER could calculate an investment return with what the solar companies told me to factor in for maintenance, and the upfront costs were STAGGERING. I don't mean just a few thousand extra....think 10's of thousands...at leas FOUR! Not to mention...it was recommended I had a solid enough alternative powered generator for the "unforseen down time". "Hello, MN Power, yeah....we're going with plan B...THANKS!!!!!!!!" OH.....and what fucking ass-watered, wooden head idiot compared this legislation to the seat belt law? I don't want to go back and check. I mean COMPLETE FUCKING IDIOCY!!!!!!!!!!! You poor dumb motherfucker.....I didnt compare the legislation. The comment was made that "if its a good idea the government shouldnt have to mandate it" You cant see how bringing up seatbelts would be a good example of why the above statement isnt true? Are you fucking Snowrider? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 1 minute ago, f7ben said: You poor dumb motherfucker.....I didnt compare the legislation. The comment was made that "if its a good idea the government shouldnt have to mandate it" You cant see how bringing up seatbelts would be a good example of why the above statement isnt true? Are you fucking Snowrider? It was you? Maybe you made sense with the correlation. I only skimmed it for clear pertinence. Let me get back later and read your theories, but it’s probably likely I’m gonna take issue with it. I’ll alert you as to my findings. Unless, I lose interest, or forget. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 4 minutes ago, Zambroski said: It was you? Maybe you made sense with the correlation. I only skimmed it for clear pertinence. Let me get back later and read your theories, but it’s probably likely I’m gonna take issue with it. I’ll alert you as to my findings. Unless, I lose interest, or forget. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 38 minutes ago, f7ben said: You poor dumb motherfucker.....I didnt compare the legislation. The comment was made that "if its a good idea the government shouldnt have to mandate it" You cant see how bringing up seatbelts would be a good example of why the above statement isnt true? Are you fucking Snowrider? That’s not what I said. If it were financially a good idea and saved people money then people will gravitate towards it in their own. It has nothing to do with personal safety legislation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 1 minute ago, Rod Johnson said: That’s not what I said. If it were financially a good idea and saved people money then people will gravitate towards it in their own. It has nothing to do with personal safety legislation Mandating efficiency standards always ends up lowering costs of existing tech , saving money and spurring innovation......it is a good idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 12 hours ago, SnowRider said: Great move California you truly are a fucking dip shit sheep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 10 hours ago, Nazipigdog said: You should go work as a civil engineer or consultant there. You have so many answers that you could be a great asset. Consultant maybe? Bravo. well they obviously need new civil engines. how is the tearing out all the over 100yr old farming water dams and water ways been working out ? good thing that sand flee was saved though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 2 hours ago, Rod Johnson said: That’s not what I said. If it were financially a good idea and saved people money then people will gravitate towards it in their own. It has nothing to do with personal safety legislation Aaaaaaaand that's capitalism folks... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 10 hours ago, f7ben said: There are plenty of things that government has mandated that were very beneficial that people would not have implemented on their own. That is a fact for the most part seat belts work . I and my bud would deff be dead if we wearing them . both tossed from car when it rolled roof was at door lock height. fucking beeper is the main reason I where one now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted May 14, 2018 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, Ez ryder said: for the most part seat belts work . I and my bud would deff be dead if we wearing them . both tossed from car when it rolled roof was at door lock height. fucking beeper is the main reason I where one now Buy a ford, you can shut it off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 1 minute ago, steve from amherst said: Buy a ford, you can shut it off. I have one how? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted May 14, 2018 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 14, 2018 Just now, Ez ryder said: I have one how? what is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted May 14, 2018 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 14, 2018 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted May 14, 2018 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 14, 2018 either way its in your owners manual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 6 minutes ago, steve from amherst said: what is it? f150 a 12 and a 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 18 minutes ago, motonoggin said: Aaaaaaaand that's capitalism folks... Yup. People will buy into a product when it isn’t trash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 1 hour ago, steve from amherst said: either way its in your owners manual. worked on both told my bud with a 18 limited worked on his also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 I made a seat belt clip insert for my f150. works perfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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