Anler Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 < Older Trump’s Pyrrhic Victory: the US Opts for a Path That Can Only Lead to War written by philip giraldi thursday may 10, 2018 Nearly everyone loses by President Donald Trump’s decision on Tuesday to withdraw from the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) relating to Iran’s nuclear energy program and to reinstate the “highest level” of sanctions while also threatening secondary sanctions on any country that “helps” the Iranians. The whole world loses because nuclear proliferation is a disaster waiting to happen and Iran will now have a strong incentive to proceed with a weapons program to defend itself from Israel and the United States. If Iran does so, it will trigger a regional nuclear arms race with Saudi Arabia and Egypt undoubtedly seeking weapons of their own. Iran and the Iranian people will lose because their suffering economy will not now benefit from the lifting of sanctions and other economic inducements that convinced it to sign the agreement in the first place. And yes, even the United States and Israel will lose because an agreement that would have pushed back by ten or fifteen years Iran’s timetable if it were to choose to develop a weapon will now be reduced to a year or less. And the United States will in particular lose because the entire world will understand that the word of an American president when entering into an international agreement cannot be trusted. The only winners from the withdrawal are President Donald Trump and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who will enjoy the plaudits of their hardline supporters. But their victory will be illusory as the hard reality of what they have accomplished becomes clear. Failure of JCPOA definitely means that war is the only likely outcome if Tel Aviv and Washington continue in their absurd insistence that the Iranians constitute a major threat both to the region and the world. A war that might possibly involve both the United States and Russia as well as Iran, Saudi Arabia and Israel would devastate the region and might easily have potential to escalate into something like a global conflict. The decision to end the agreement is based on American domestic political considerations rather than any real analysis of what the intelligence community has been reporting. Deep-pocketed Iran-hating billionaires named Sheldon Adelson, Rebekah Mercer and Paul Singer are now prepared to throw tens of millions of dollars at Trump’s Republican Party to help it win in November’s midterm elections. Those possessed of just a tad more foresight, to include the Pentagon and America’s European allies, have strongly urged that JCPOA be continued, particularly as the Iranians have been fully in compliance, but there is a new team in Washington. America’s just-confirmed Secretary of State Mike Pompeo did not exactly endorse the ludicrous Israeli claim made by Benjamin Netanyahu two weeks ago that Iran has a secret weapons of mass destruction program currently in place, but he did come down hard against the JCPOA, echoing Trump in calling it a terrible agreement that will guarantee an Iranian nuclear weapon. The reality is quite different, with the pact basically eliminating a possible Iranian nuke for the foreseeable future through degradation of the country’s nuclear research, reduction of its existing nuclear stocks and repeated intrusive inspections. The failure of the JCPOA is not about the agreement at all, which is both sound and workable. There is unfortunately an Israeli-White House construct which assumes that Iran is both out to destroy Israel, for which no evidence has been revealed, as well as being singularly untrustworthy, an odd assertion coming from either Washington or Tel Aviv. It also basically rejects any kind of agreement with the Iranian government on principle so there is nowhere to go to “fix” what has already transpired. The United States has changed in the past seventeen years. The promotion of policies that were at least tenuously based on genuine national interests is no longer embraced by either political party. A fearful public has allowed a national security state to replace a constitutional republic with endless war as the inevitable result. Presidents once constitutionally constrained by legislative and judicial balance of power have successfully asserted executive privilege to become like third world dictators, able to make war without any restraint on their ability to do so. If America survives, historians will no doubt see the destruction of the JCPOA as the beginning of something new and horrible, where the government of these United States deliberately made a decision to abandon a beneficial foreign treaty to instead opt for a path that can only lead to war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted May 10, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 10, 2018 Both sides are the same WTF do you expect? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted May 10, 2018 Author Share Posted May 10, 2018 6 minutes ago, SnowRider said: Both sides are the same WTF do you expect? This is a conservative piece. Did you see my other thread about how we are actively engaged in combat operations in 14 countries? How many of those started under Obama? yeah... the same... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 27 minutes ago, Nazipigdog said: This is a conservative piece. Did you see my other thread about how we are actively engaged in combat operations in 14 countries? How many of those started under Obama? yeah... the same... stfu ben. bombing terrorist camps does not equal full time war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted May 10, 2018 Author Share Posted May 10, 2018 12 minutes ago, Snoslinger said: stfu ben. bombing terrorist camps does not equal full time war. Terrorist camps eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member Kivalo Posted May 10, 2018 Gold Member Share Posted May 10, 2018 43 minutes ago, Nazipigdog said: This is a conservative piece. Did you see my other thread about how we are actively engaged in combat operations in 14 countries? How many of those started under Obama? yeah... the same... Slinger analer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 23 minutes ago, Snoslinger said: stfu ben. bombing terrorist camps does not equal full time war. Really. "It's a war on innocent women and children"...YUP...that's the target! Cue the footage! 52 minutes ago, Nazipigdog said: This is a conservative piece. Did you see my other thread about how we are actively engaged in combat operations in 14 countries? How many of those started under Obama? yeah... the same... Just 14 eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted May 10, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 10, 2018 More evidence that Slinger is a massive piece of shit partisan hack...good god it’s so pathetic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted May 10, 2018 Author Share Posted May 10, 2018 25 minutes ago, Zambroski said: Really. "It's a war on innocent women and children"...YUP...that's the target! Cue the footage! Just 14 eh? Hopefully Canada soon, they have alot of oil and stuff.. And they have muslims! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1jkw Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 All we need now is an Ebola breakout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted May 10, 2018 Author Share Posted May 10, 2018 6 minutes ago, 1jkw said: All we need now is an Ebola breakout. That would be awesome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momorider Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 14 minutes ago, 1jkw said: All we need now is an Ebola breakout. There is a new one was in the news yesterday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted May 10, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Snoslinger said: stfu ben. bombing terrorist camps does not equal full time war. 1 hour ago, Nazipigdog said: Terrorist camps eh? No shit....now do these soldiers fighting the part time war get benefits? How about the Christmas Party...Invited or not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted May 10, 2018 Author Share Posted May 10, 2018 1 minute ago, Jimmy Snacks said: No shit....now do these soldiers fighting the part time war get benefits? How about the Christmas Party...Invited or not? Contractors must be making a killing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted May 10, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 10, 2018 1 minute ago, Nazipigdog said: Contractors must be making a killing. Absolutely...meanwhile that sketchy fucker Erik Prince started a new “security” company and is in China training their national police. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 11 minutes ago, Snake said: But, we all know how they work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 20 hours ago, Nazipigdog said: Contractors must be making a killing. It's the only way to fly. Or used to be anyway. 20 hours ago, Jimmy Snacks said: Absolutely...meanwhile that sketchy fucker Erik Prince started a new “security” company and is in China training their national police. Nothing illegal about that. Hell, our own military bring personel from all over the world to train them military tactics. YEP!!! Even those mooooozlums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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