Snoslinger Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 or is it D? trumpy offering up pardons to manafort and Flynn last year while Mueller was building cases against them. obviously so they wouldn't cooperate with Mueller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momorider Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 5 minutes ago, Snoslinger said: or is it D? trumpy offering up pardons to manafort and Flynn last year while Mueller was building cases against them. obviously so they wouldn't cooperate with Mueller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Oh great. Slingers a lawyer and judge now. I guess Clintons pardons never happened for straight up criminals like Marc Rich and others. Thats ok, but this is...... what again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmo Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 As the whole narrative swirls the drain Slinger is digging in his heels. Obsession... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted March 29, 2018 Author Share Posted March 29, 2018 1 minute ago, DriftBusta said: Oh great. Slingers a lawyer and judge now. I guess Clintons pardons never happened for straight up criminals like Marc Rich and others. Thats ok, but this is...... what again? whoooosh....... what's the difference between manafort and Flynn vs "marc rich and others" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Just now, Snoslinger said: whoooosh....... what's the difference between manafort and Flynn vs "marc rich and others" You tell me, and be sure and list what both were accused and convicted of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKIQPilot Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Manafort is turning out to be a dud. More nothingburger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mileage Psycho Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 1 hour ago, Snoslinger said: or is it D? trumpy offering up pardons to manafort and Flynn last year while Mueller was building cases against them. obviously so they wouldn't cooperate with Mueller. Dowd floated that idea past Trump, Trump did not offer up pardons to Manafort and Flynn. BTW, you have to convicted of crime to be pardoned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oleroule Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 now the president can no longer pardon people? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mileage Psycho Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 15 minutes ago, AKIQPilot said: Manafort is turning out to be a dud. More nothingburger. I have to chuckle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mileage Psycho Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Just now, oleroule said: now the president can no longer pardon people? Huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oleroule Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 1 minute ago, Mileage Psycho said: Huh? slinger insinuates trump can't pardon because it's a crime. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member Kivalo Posted March 29, 2018 Gold Member Share Posted March 29, 2018 2 minutes ago, oleroule said: slinger insinuates trump can't pardon because it's a crime. He was insinuating Trump was offering pardons to keep Manafort and Flynn from rolling on Trump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T1R9sledder Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 16 minutes ago, Mileage Psycho said: Dowd floated that idea past Trump, Trump did not offer up pardons to Manafort and Flynn. BTW, you have to convicted of crime to be pardoned. Prosecutor/Judge/Turnkey Slinger has them all convicted, sentenced and doing time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted March 29, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 29, 2018 24 minutes ago, Mileage Psycho said: Dowd floated that idea past Trump, Trump did not offer up pardons to Manafort and Flynn. BTW, you have to convicted of crime to be pardoned. Actually the POTUS can issue preemptive pardons. You seem to forget about Casper Weinburger. https://www.nytimes.com/1988/01/05/opinion/l-constitution-allows-pardons-before-conviction-590688.html Before he could be tried on the original charges, Weinberger received a pardon from President Bush, who was Reagan's Vice President during the scandal, on December 24, 1992 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mileage Psycho Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 2 minutes ago, Highmark said: Actually the POTUS can issue preemptive pardons. You seem to forget about Casper Weinburger. https://www.nytimes.com/1988/01/05/opinion/l-constitution-allows-pardons-before-conviction-590688.html Before he could be tried on the original charges, Weinberger received a pardon from President Bush, who was Reagan's Vice President during the scandal, on December 24, 1992 I wasn't aware of that, but how do you pardon someone if you don't know what the crime will be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKIQPilot Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 6 minutes ago, Mileage Psycho said: I wasn't aware of that, but how do you pardon someone if you don't know what the crime will be? The president doesnt have to be specific about an exact crime to offer a pardon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 don't need to be charged with a crime cause its TRUMP. Different rules apply to him now.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted March 29, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 29, 2018 (edited) 11 minutes ago, ATOMIC PUNK said: don't need to be charged with a crime cause its TRUMP. Different rules apply to him now.. Couldn't be more wrong. All POTUS' shared this power. From the NYT's link. In Murphy v. Ford (1975), a Federal District Court in Michigan rejected a suit for a declaratory judgment that President Ford's unconditional pardon of Richard M. Nixon was unconstitutional. The court found that the President had the constitutional power to grant a pre-indictment pardon, citing Ex parte Garland in its support. Edited March 29, 2018 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted March 29, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 29, 2018 Frankie, your trying to get too much milage out of a pic showing a guy that dosnt drink , drinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momorider Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 1 hour ago, steve from amherst said: Frankie, your trying to get too much milage out of a pic showing a guy that dosnt drink , drinking a glass of ice tea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted March 29, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 29, 2018 Who drinks ice tea out of a rocks glass? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 5 hours ago, Highmark said: Couldn't be more wrong. All POTUS' shared this power. From the NYT's link. In Murphy v. Ford (1975), a Federal District Court in Michigan rejected a suit for a declaratory judgment that President Ford's unconditional pardon of Richard M. Nixon was unconstitutional. The court found that the President had the constitutional power to grant a pre-indictment pardon, citing Ex parte Garland in its support. I was being sarcastic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted March 29, 2018 Author Share Posted March 29, 2018 8 hours ago, DriftBusta said: You tell me, and be sure and list what both were accused and convicted of. why do you need spoon fed all the damn time? the damn answer is obvious. manafort and Flynn are indicted and if they don't work with Mueller, they're both looking at some serious jail time. so trump floated the idea of giving them pardons earlier, so they wouldn't give Mueller jack shit. now, was this the same situation as "marc rich and others"? hell no. completely different circumstances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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