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7 minutes ago, Biggie Smails said:

That's fine and fucking dandy but how about the last 30 years.

Well if people only want to include the last 30 years then they need to say so. That wasn't the original argument.

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3 minutes ago, SSFB said:

Well if people only want to include the last 30 years then they need to say so. That wasn't the original argument.

Sure it was....you re the one that brought up the 1800s.

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Just now, Zambroski said:

So what we are agreeing to then is the last time the nation was this divided was just before the civil war?  

Ok...I'll buy that.  

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2 minutes ago, Zambroski said:

So what we are agreeing to then is the last time the nation was this divided was just before the civil war?  

Ok...I'll buy that.  

The level of divisiveness today can't even touch what was brewing "just before" the Civil War. 

 

You lack perspective. 

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31 minutes ago, SSFB said:

When was the last time in America that immediate family members fought against each other in a war? 

It's just not even debatable. 

Were you upset when the Confederate flag had to come down?

 
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2 minutes ago, Capt.Storm said:

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Were you upset when the Confederate flag had to come down?

 

I was happy when the Confederate flag came down. 

Not that it made any difference in my life either way.

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11 minutes ago, Capt.Storm said:

The ones eating!

I don't know but I have read in a few places where that actually would happen..i dunno.

It was the Battle of Run, which was the first major battle of the war.....to say the spectators or picnickers were horrified after it started would be an understatement.

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2 minutes ago, Capt.Storm said:

ok..fair enough.

The South had legitimate arguments on states rights but the ownership of other human beings is indefensible. No two ways about it.

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3 minutes ago, SSFB said:

The South had legitimate arguments on states rights but the ownership of other human beings is indefensible. No two ways about it.

They were worried about the federal government banning slavery in the territories and the new states of the western frontier.

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The south could have continues their way of life for probably another decade if they would have stopped shooting their mouths off.  Slavery was a dying campaign in the world and they knew it.  Their idea to fight the union on the pro-slavery platform was suicide.  And an idiotic one at that.  Southerners are still ass-backwards about the whole thing today.  Comical.

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8 minutes ago, Mileage Psycho said:

They were worried about the federal government banning slavery in the territories and the new states of the western frontier.

No doubt about it. It was essentially a contest on who could get more states in their corner for the day when a constitutional amendment to ban slavery came up. 

The South was working against time. 

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