Rod Posted December 4, 2017 Author Share Posted December 4, 2017 6 minutes ago, Mainecat said: They won’t sentence him for 6 months and that sentence hinges on what he provides the investigation. If they feel not enough he gets 5 years. He will rightfully get a pardon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted December 4, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted December 4, 2017 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Mainecat said: A pardon may not happen.... http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2017/12/robert_mueller_s_deal_with_michael_flynn_neutralizes_trump_s_pardon_power.html Just how exactly can Trump be charged with Obstruction of Justice? Jesus you people have no Constitutional knowledge what so ever. Bush Sr. pardoned Casper Weinberger and wasn't charged with obstruction. He can fire whomever he wants in the DOJ. He can instruct them to stop investigating or to investigate. People need to get off the "obstruction of justice" idea because he fired Comey. THAT IS NOT ILLEGAL NO MATTER WHAT HIS THOUGHT PROCESS OR JUSTIFICATION WAS. http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/12/04/alan-dershowitz-obstruction-justice-charges-against-trump-would-lead-constitutional "There's never been a case in history where a president has been charged with obstruction of justice for merely exercising his constitutional authority. That would cause a constitutional crisis in the United States," Dershowitz said, adding that he hopes Special Counsel Robert Mueller understands that before he considers bringing an indictment or recommending that the matter be referred to Congress. "And Sen. Feinstein simply doesn't know what she's talking about when she says it's obstruction of justice to do what a president is completely authorized to do under the Constitution." He added that if Trump truly wanted to impede Mueller's investigation, he could have pardoned Gen. Michael Flynn to prevent him from cooperating. "The president would have had the complete authority do so and Flynn never would have been indicted, never would have turned as a witness against him," said Dershowitz, a lifelong Democrat. Edited December 4, 2017 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmo Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 3 minutes ago, Highmark said: Just how exactly can Trump be charged with Obstruction of Justice? Jesus you people have no Constitutional knowledge what so ever. Bush Sr. pardoned Casper Weinberger and wasn't charged with obstruction. He can fire whomever he wants in the DOJ. He can instruct them to stop investigating or to investigate. People need to get off the "obstruction of justice" idea because he fired Comey. THAT IS NOT ILLEGAL NO MATTER WHAT HIS THOUGHT PROCESS OR JUSTIFICATION WAS. http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/12/04/alan-dershowitz-obstruction-justice-charges-against-trump-would-lead-constitutional Well collusion is out apparently. They need to find something. We know he did something wrong!!!!11111 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momorider Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 19 minutes ago, JEFF said: What is Flynn in trouble for again...? Lying to the FBI? Hmmm.... who else have we heard of lying to the FBI??? Thrillery, Mills,Barry, basically every DemonCunt from the last administration Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted December 4, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted December 4, 2017 If Flynn would have had dirt on Trump he would have been pardon'ed already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momorider Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 7 minutes ago, Highmark said: Just how exactly can Trump be charged with Obstruction of Justice? Jesus you people have no Constitutional knowledge what so ever. Bush Sr. pardoned Casper Weinberger and wasn't charged with obstruction. He can fire whomever he wants in the DOJ. He can instruct them to stop investigating or to investigate. People need to get off the "obstruction of justice" idea because he fired Comey. THAT IS NOT ILLEGAL NO MATTER WHAT HIS THOUGHT PROCESS OR JUSTIFICATION WAS. http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/12/04/alan-dershowitz-obstruction-justice-charges-against-trump-would-lead-constitutional "There's never been a case in history where a president has been charged with obstruction of justice for merely exercising his constitutional authority. That would cause a constitutional crisis in the United States," Dershowitz said, adding that he hopes Special Counsel Robert Mueller understands that before he considers bringing an indictment or recommending that the matter be referred to Congress. "And Sen. Feinstein simply doesn't know what she's talking about when she says it's obstruction of justice to do what a president is completely authorized to do under the Constitution." He added that if Trump truly wanted to impede Mueller's investigation, he could have pardoned Gen. Michael Flynn to prevent him from cooperating. "The president would have had the complete authority do so and Flynn never would have been indicted, never would have turned as a witness against him," said Dershowitz, a lifelong Democrat. Yup POTUS can not be charged with obstruction of justice, period end of fucking story Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s pump Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 27 minutes ago, Mainecat said: They won’t sentence him for 6 months and that sentence hinges on what he provides the investigation. If they feel not enough he gets 5 years. Wanna bet? $50 yes, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted December 4, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted December 4, 2017 Just now, Momorider said: Yup POTUS can not be charged with obstruction of justice, period end of fucking story Well he can be charged but not for using his constitutional authority. It has to come from OTHER ILLEGAL ACTS like in the cases of Bill Clinton and Richard Nixon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmo Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 1 minute ago, s pump said: Wanna bet? $50 yes, no? Good luck with that. Mc posts BS all day and when someone calls him on it he disappears or puts them on ignore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted December 4, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted December 4, 2017 People including the media are forgetting Flynn's actual statement to the judge at his hearing. “Is your willingness to plead guilty here today the result of a discussion you had with the government through your attorneys?” the judge asked. Flynn said yes. “There are no side oral agreements?” Flynn said no. Flynn was asked if he understood he could face a maximum sentence of five years in prison and a fine of $250,000. He said he did. Asked if anyone had promised him that he would get a lighter sentence in return for pleading guilty, Flynn said no. “Has anyone forced, threatened or coerced you in any way into entering a guilty plea?” Contreras asked, Flynn said no. Finally, it was time for the plea. “Guilty, your honour,” said Flynn, in a quiet but steady voice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momorider Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, Highmark said: Well he can be charged but not for using his constitutional authority. It has to come from OTHER ILLEGAL ACTS like in the cases of Bill Clinton and Richard Nixon. Neither were charged with obstruction of justice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted December 4, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted December 4, 2017 Just now, Momorider said: Neither were charged with obstruction of justice By Congress they were thru the impeachment process. They were not by federal law enforcement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momorider Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, Highmark said: By Congress they were thru the impeachment process. They were not by federal law enforcement. Nixon wasn't impeached just Slick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted December 4, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted December 4, 2017 Just now, Momorider said: Nixon wasn't impeached just Slick Well true. There were articles of impeachment reported to the whole house. That has only happened 3 times in our nations history. Nixon resigned before he actually was impeached. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 1 hour ago, Highmark said: Just how exactly can Trump be charged with Obstruction of Justice? Jesus you people have no Constitutional knowledge what so ever. Bush Sr. pardoned Casper Weinberger and wasn't charged with obstruction. He can fire whomever he wants in the DOJ. He can instruct them to stop investigating or to investigate. People need to get off the "obstruction of justice" idea because he fired Comey. THAT IS NOT ILLEGAL NO MATTER WHAT HIS THOUGHT PROCESS OR JUSTIFICATION WAS. http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/12/04/alan-dershowitz-obstruction-justice-charges-against-trump-would-lead-constitutional "There's never been a case in history where a president has been charged with obstruction of justice for merely exercising his constitutional authority. That would cause a constitutional crisis in the United States," Dershowitz said, adding that he hopes Special Counsel Robert Mueller understands that before he considers bringing an indictment or recommending that the matter be referred to Congress. "And Sen. Feinstein simply doesn't know what she's talking about when she says it's obstruction of justice to do what a president is completely authorized to do under the Constitution." He added that if Trump truly wanted to impede Mueller's investigation, he could have pardoned Gen. Michael Flynn to prevent him from cooperating. "The president would have had the complete authority do so and Flynn never would have been indicted, never would have turned as a witness against him," said Dershowitz, a lifelong Democrat. You can BUT if it’s to protect yourself from procection you cannot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 1 hour ago, Highmark said: Well true. There were articles of impeachment reported to the whole house. That has only happened 3 times in our nations history. Nixon resigned before he actually was impeached. As will Trump but he will claim victory and go on a national victory tour that you will go to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKIQPilot Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 7 minutes ago, Mainecat said: As will Trump but he will claim victory and go on a national victory tour that you will go to. Hahaha. You sound like a 6 year old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted December 4, 2017 Gold Member Share Posted December 4, 2017 Mueller will be hated by democrats once he wraps up his investigation. Mueller will be accused of being a republican by the time is all said and done 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 23 minutes ago, Mainecat said: As will Trump but he will claim victory and go on a national victory tour that you will go to. You should know, that's exactly what the Dem candidate (hillary) did after she lost the election. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 2 hours ago, s pump said: Wanna bet? $50 yes, no? They continued sentencing for 6 months.......why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 36 minutes ago, AKIQPilot said: Hahaha. You sound like a 6 year old. Trump is but that’s what you voted for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 21 minutes ago, racer254 said: You should know, that's exactly what the Dem candidate (hillary) did after she lost the election. She did win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepr2 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 32 minutes ago, Mainecat said: She did win. Yeah, that’s why she’s in the White House, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold War Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 It will never be over!!!! Dems will say when it is over!!!! Was it over when Germany bombed pearl harbor!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Muellers investigation has already resulted in the arrest of four individuals. Far from a witch hunt. I’d say the investigation is less than half done. So maybe 4-5 more arrests. Good job mueller. Someone needs to clean the swamp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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