Rod Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 And Flynn lied about it, leading to the charges of lying to the FBI. too bad this all happened the month AFTER the election hey? And while technically Trump wasn't president yet, it's not unprecedented. Obama did the same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKIQPilot Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 Poor Vince. Such a gullible sap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 But but.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 Why did Flynn plead guilty to a felony with 5 years behind bars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 2 minutes ago, Mainecat said: Why did Flynn plead guilty to a felony with 5 years behind bars. Cause he lied to the fbi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 I do see that Trump put himself in a position of obstruction of justice with tweeting that he fired Flynn for lying, get tried to get the FBI to wave off the investigation of Flynn. I don't know that it will, but Twitter doing him in would be hilarious. Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 Just now, NaturallyAspirated said: I do see that Trump put himself in a position of obstruction of justice with tweeting that he fired Flynn for lying, get tried to get the FBI to wave off the investigation of Flynn. I don't know that it will, but Twitter doing him in would be hilarious. Neal How is that obstruction? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted December 2, 2017 Author Share Posted December 2, 2017 Check the timeline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted December 2, 2017 Author Share Posted December 2, 2017 7 minutes ago, DAVE said: Cause he lied to the fbi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 3 minutes ago, DAVE said: How is that obstruction? Well if Trump knew that Flynn lied, and then partitioned Comey to not investigate/let Flynn of the hook, that is a pretty clear case of attempting to obstruct. Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 Just now, NaturallyAspirated said: Well if Trump knew that Flynn lied, and then partitioned Comey to not investigate/let Flynn of the hook, that is a pretty clear case of attempting to obstruct. Neal The president could pardon flynn at anytime... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 1 minute ago, Rod Johnson said: Check the timeline That doesn't really pertain to the possible obstruction... Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 1 minute ago, DAVE said: The president could pardon flynn at anytime... Again, that is irrelevant to the possible obstruction. He seems to have admitted that he new Flynn lied to Pence and the FBI, and it has not been disputed that he asked Comey to back off the Flynn investigation. Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 Just now, NaturallyAspirated said: Again, that is irrelevant to the possible obstruction. He seems to have admitted that he new Flynn lied to Pence and the FBI, and it has not been disputed that he asked Comey to back off the Flynn investigation. Neal The president can, as a matter of constitutional law, direct the attorney general, and his subordinate, the director of the FBI, tell them what to do, whom to prosecute and whom not to prosecute. Indeed, the president has the constitutional authority to stop the investigation of any person by simply pardoning that person. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 1 minute ago, DAVE said: The president can, as a matter of constitutional law, direct the attorney general, and his subordinate, the director of the FBI, tell them what to do, whom to prosecute and whom not to prosecute. Indeed, the president has the constitutional authority to stop the investigation of any person by simply pardoning that person. That doesn't help him now, as the investigation continues, and his admittance is public. Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 1 minute ago, NaturallyAspirated said: That doesn't help him now, as the investigation continues, and his admittance is public. Neal That doesn't make sense. He could stop the investigation if he wanted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted December 2, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted December 2, 2017 28 minutes ago, Mainecat said: Why did Flynn plead guilty to a felony with 5 years behind bars. Its not. Up to 6 months and a max 9500 fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 Just now, DAVE said: That doesn't make sense. He could stop the investigation if he wanted. Sure he could, but again, this info has already been outed and is public knowledge. Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 Just now, NaturallyAspirated said: Sure he could, but again, this info has already been outed and is public knowledge. Neal So? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, DAVE said: So? So Trump has apparently openly admitted to obstruction of justice on his Twitter account. Neal Edited December 2, 2017 by NaturallyAspirated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 Just now, NaturallyAspirated said: So the Trump has apparently openly admitted to obstruction of justice. Neal But he cant under the Constitution....be charged with that.. so your point is invalid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, DAVE said: But he cant under the Constitution....be charged with that.. so your point is invalid. There is nothing under the Constitution that bars the President from obstructing justice, or be investigated for it, or even charged with it. Charged or not, the point that Trump appears to have obstructed is a valid point. Neal Edited December 2, 2017 by NaturallyAspirated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 37 minutes ago, Mainecat said: Why did Flynn plead guilty to a felony with 5 years behind bars. Why do you insist on constantly spreading lies and bullshit? Thats not true at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepr2 Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 40 minutes ago, Mainecat said: Why did Flynn plead guilty to a felony with 5 years behind bars. He’s not a Clinton,,,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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