Mainecat Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 Under Trump, Made in America Is Losing Out to Russian Steel An oligarch-owned steel company is winning pipeline contracts, and foreign steel imports are up 24 percent this year. Source: Bloomberg Four days after his inauguration, Donald Trump signed a handful of executive memos to advance the Keystone XL pipeline and revive the U.S. steel industry. He invited builder TransCanada Corp. to reapply for a permit denied by Barack Obama and ordered up fast-track rules forcing not only Keystone but also all new U.S. pipelines to be made from American steel. “From now on, we’re going to be making pipeline in the United States,” he said. Made-in-America Keystone was a stunt. Most of its pipes had already been manufactured, a fact the White House grudgingly admitted when it exempted the project from any new Buy American rules a few months later. While some of Keystone’s pipes were made in the U.S., at least a quarter of them came from a Russian steel company whose biggest shareholder is an oligarch and Trump family friend. The company, Evraz North America, supplied Keystone from its steel plants in Canada and for years has lobbied in Washington against Trump-style protectionism. Ten months after his Keystone event, Trump has yet to deliver on his pledge to boost the fortunes of American steel. Two self-imposed deadlines for trade action, one in June and one in July, have come and gone. Meanwhile, the prospect of tariffs has led to a surge of cheap foreign steel into the U.S., with imports rising 24 percent in 2017, the fastest increase in years. Read more: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-10-25/under-trump-made-in-america-is-losing-out-to-russian-steel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 Spoon fed again I see. Such a nicely written piece designed for guys like you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 1 minute ago, racer254 said: Spoon fed again I see. Such a nicely written piece designed for guys like you. Are you always a retard? You seem to act it. Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted October 25, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 25, 2017 5 minutes ago, racer254 said: Spoon fed again I see. Such a nicely written piece designed for guys like you. Refute and enlighten us Doe Dumber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted October 25, 2017 Author Share Posted October 25, 2017 Ten months after his Keystone event, Trump has yet to deliver on his pledge to boost the fortunes of American steel. thats called a lie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtssrx Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 I agree trump needs to deliver. He's not delivering on many campaign promises. That being said Obama made lots of promises and more or less was Bush 2.0 and MC, Snowrider never said a word. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 54 minutes ago, racer254 said: Spoon fed again I see. Such a nicely written piece designed for guys like you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 btw, why aren't the Russian sanctions in place? the ones congress agreed to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 (edited) All it does is take a little research. To sit back and constantly blame Trump for stuff is disingenuous. Trump does need to take action, but can he do it alone? Obama screwed this up for 8 years allowing the pipes to be made by anyone BUT american steel industry. Now mc is crying. Just STFU for once. Edited October 25, 2017 by racer254 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 6 minutes ago, racer254 said: All it does is take a little research. To sit back and constantly blame Trump for stuff is disingenuous. Trump does need to take action, but can he do it alone? Obama screwed this up for 8 years allowing the pipes to be made by anyone BUT american steel industry. Now mc is crying. Just STFU for once. hello? Obama didn't want the thing made to begin with, yet you're accusing him of allowing the pipes to be made? my god dude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Snoslinger said: hello? Obama didn't want the thing made to begin with, yet you're accusing him of allowing the pipes to be made? my god dude. Our military relies on american steel industry But you complain about the MIC And you complained about Keystone. Tell me, when you constantly complain and stop the ways that American steel can make money what does that make you? Edited October 25, 2017 by racer254 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepr2 Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 30 minutes ago, Mainecat said: Ten months after his Keystone event, Trump has yet to deliver on his pledge to boost the fortunes of American steel. thats called a lie Don’t like competition with your lies ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtralettucetomatoe580 Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 My question is this: What are the new steel contracts from foreign sources? I’d guess the majority of large steel purchases were made at least a year in advance? Is the number being used an accurate representation of the current ordering? I’d be willing to bet it is not. Those numbers represent Steel when it is shipped do they not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 (edited) Tell me what you would do if you are Trump getting told this? http://www.post-gazette.com/business/pittsburgh-company-news/2017/09/11/Steel-import-curbs-would-harm-economy-industry-leaders-tell-White-House-Trump-tariffs/stories/201709110159 Fifteen industry groups are warning President Donald Trump that a proposal to curb steel imports would harm national security, the economy, and the U.S. steel industry. In a Sept. 7 letter, they said import restrictions would result in critical raw materials shortages for them because many types of steel products are not available from domestic sources. Edited October 25, 2017 by racer254 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepr2 Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 3 minutes ago, racer254 said: Tell me what you would do if you are Trump getting told this? http://www.post-gazette.com/business/pittsburgh-company-news/2017/09/11/Steel-import-curbs-would-harm-economy-industry-leaders-tell-White-House-Trump-tariffs/stories/201709110159 Fifteen industry groups are warning President Donald Trump that a proposal to curb steel imports would harm national security, the economy, and the U.S. steel industry. In a Sept. 7 letter, they said import restrictions would result in critical raw materials shortages for them because many types of steel products are not available from domestic sources. Trump should have called McLiar for his advice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted October 25, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 25, 2017 2 hours ago, Mainecat said: Under Trump, Made in America Is Losing Out to Russian Steel An oligarch-owned steel company is winning pipeline contracts, and foreign steel imports are up 24 percent this year. Source: Bloomberg Four days after his inauguration, Donald Trump signed a handful of executive memos to advance the Keystone XL pipeline and revive the U.S. steel industry. He invited builder TransCanada Corp. to reapply for a permit denied by Barack Obama and ordered up fast-track rules forcing not only Keystone but also all new U.S. pipelines to be made from American steel. “From now on, we’re going to be making pipeline in the United States,” he said. Made-in-America Keystone was a stunt. Most of its pipes had already been manufactured, a fact the White House grudgingly admitted when it exempted the project from any new Buy American rules a few months later. While some of Keystone’s pipes were made in the U.S., at least a quarter of them came from a Russian steel company whose biggest shareholder is an oligarch and Trump family friend. The company, Evraz North America, supplied Keystone from its steel plants in Canada and for years has lobbied in Washington against Trump-style protectionism. Ten months after his Keystone event, Trump has yet to deliver on his pledge to boost the fortunes of American steel. Two self-imposed deadlines for trade action, one in June and one in July, have come and gone. Meanwhile, the prospect of tariffs has led to a surge of cheap foreign steel into the U.S., with imports rising 24 percent in 2017, the fastest increase in years. Read more: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-10-25/under-trump-made-in-america-is-losing-out-to-russian-steel Steel prices have been on the rise no matter how much is being imported. Doubt many on here buys more steel than me. http://www.business-standard.com/article/companies/rising-demand-allows-steep-rise-in-steel-prices-117080700667_1.html Rising demand allows steep rise in steel prices The approaching festive season and restocking are the reasons Ishita Ayan Dutt & Aditi Divekar | Kolkata/ Mumbai Last Updated at August 8, 2017 01:35 IST Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 6 hours ago, Mainecat said: Under Trump, Made in America Is Losing Out to Russian Steel An oligarch-owned steel company is winning pipeline contracts, and foreign steel imports are up 24 percent this year. Source: Bloomberg Four days after his inauguration, Donald Trump signed a handful of executive memos to advance the Keystone XL pipeline and revive the U.S. steel industry. He invited builder TransCanada Corp. to reapply for a permit denied by Barack Obama and ordered up fast-track rules forcing not only Keystone but also all new U.S. pipelines to be made from American steel. “From now on, we’re going to be making pipeline in the United States,” he said. Made-in-America Keystone was a stunt. Most of its pipes had already been manufactured, a fact the White House grudgingly admitted when it exempted the project from any new Buy American rules a few months later. While some of Keystone’s pipes were made in the U.S., at least a quarter of them came from a Russian steel company whose biggest shareholder is an oligarch and Trump family friend. The company, Evraz North America, supplied Keystone from its steel plants in Canada and for years has lobbied in Washington against Trump-style protectionism. Ten months after his Keystone event, Trump has yet to deliver on his pledge to boost the fortunes of American steel. Two self-imposed deadlines for trade action, one in June and one in July, have come and gone. Meanwhile, the prospect of tariffs has led to a surge of cheap foreign steel into the U.S., with imports rising 24 percent in 2017, the fastest increase in years. Read more: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-10-25/under-trump-made-in-america-is-losing-out-to-russian-steel oh my god buying Canadian steel to build a pipeline owned by a Canadian company that was already at the execution phase beofre Trump took office. Clearly more evidence Trumps really a russki. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 5 hours ago, Snoslinger said: btw, why aren't the Russian sanctions in place? the ones congress agreed to? anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 16 minutes ago, Angry ginger said: oh my god buying Canadian steel to build a pipeline owned by a Canadian company that was already at the execution phase beofre Trump took office. Clearly more evidence Trumps really a russki. did you read what you just replied to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 (edited) You keep repeating how trump is colluding with russia........OH BOY, maybe you can connect your own dots again..... Edited October 25, 2017 by racer254 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted October 25, 2017 Author Share Posted October 25, 2017 Another election lie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 While trump hasnt done shit for the steel industry like he promised .....its fucking hilarious for MC to act like he cares now....after 8 years of Obama shitting all over the steel industry and allowing china to dump 10s of millions of tons of steel on our country. Truly....fuck you MC you partisan piece of shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepr2 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 5 hours ago, Mainecat said: Another election lie. Since when are you opposed lies ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayward Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 8 minutes ago, f7ben said: While trump hasnt done shit for the steel industry like he promised .....its fucking hilarious for MC to act like he cares now....after 8 years of Obama shitting all over the steel industry and allowing china to dump 10s of millions of tons of steel on our country. Truly....fuck you MC you partisan piece of shit Was just going to say, of all the replies in here, not one mentioned China, only Russia, until you just did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 Just now, hayward said: Was just going to say, of all the replies in here, not one mentioned China, only Russia, until you just did. China is putting the brakes on what could be an incredible resurgence in american manufacturing......Trump promised to fix it and he hasnt done shit. Fuck him , fuck Obama too and fuck MC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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