Snoslinger Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 let me give you a little hint as to what is going to happen here rigidhead. all the money saved from any regulation cutsis going to go into the pockets of the business owners. many big businesses are already swimming in cash, so what makes you think a little more is going to do anything? think they'll hire people to stand around? furthermore, the local environments will end up taking a hit, and you, the tax payer, will feel the effects. not the business owner. either with the mess that's left behind, or the tax dollars to clean it up. what is going to create more jobs is demand. demand from the middle class, as they are the larger volume of people. continually giving more money to the top is not doing a fucking thing except making them wealthier. trickle-down is a major sham and the sooner you realize that, the better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 Slinger for prez!!!! He thinks hes got it all figured out Why aren't you in office slinger? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 1 minute ago, FAT DAVE said: Slinger for prez!!!! He thinks hes got it all figured out Why aren't you in office slinger? it's not rocket science, gomer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 Just now, Snoslinger said: it's not rocket science, gomer. If its not rocket science....why can't you accept the fact you lost the election? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 7 minutes ago, Snoslinger said: let me give you a little hint as to what is going to happen here rigidhead. all the money saved from any regulation cutsis going to go into the pockets of the business owners. many big businesses are already swimming in cash, so what makes you think a little more is going to do anything? think they'll hire people to stand around? furthermore, the local environments will end up taking a hit, and you, the tax payer, will feel the effects. not the business owner. either with the mess that's left behind, or the tax dollars to clean it up. what is going to create more jobs is demand. demand from the middle class, as they are the larger volume of people. continually giving more money to the top is not doing a fucking thing except making them wealthier. trickle-down is a major sham and the sooner you realize that, the better. No, Businesses will spend money to make money and everyone benefits. If governments make it to hard for them, they will simply go somewhere else and everyone loses. It's not really that complicated. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 3 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: No, Businesses will spend money to make money and everyone benefits. If governments make it to hard for them, they will simply go somewhere else and everyone loses. It's not really that complicated. Easy as pie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Rigid1 Posted August 4, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted August 4, 2017 7 minutes ago, Snoslinger said: let me give you a little hint as to what is going to happen here rigidhead. all the money saved from any regulation cutsis going to go into the pockets of the business owners. many big businesses are already swimming in cash, so what makes you think a little more is going to do anything? think they'll hire people to stand around? furthermore, the local environments will end up taking a hit, and you, the tax payer, will feel the effects. not the business owner. either with the mess that's left behind, or the tax dollars to clean it up. what is going to create more jobs is demand. demand from the middle class, as they are the larger volume of people. continually giving more money to the top is not doing a fucking thing except making them wealthier. trickle-down is a major sham and the sooner you realize that, the better. As a small business owner/operator, Its going to help, actually allow me to increase my business. Over the past 15 years of owning it I have chosen to stop doing very profitable things due to government regulations that would take away from the profitability. It got to the point that I downscaled by a minimum of 75% over the past 6-8 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 (edited) 39 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: No, Businesses will spend money to make money and everyone benefits. If governments make it to hard for them, they will simply go somewhere else and everyone loses. It's not really that complicated. so most businesses can offshore jobs overseas? regulations don't really have shit to do with those decisions - it's the cheap ass labor and other things. I'm talking about middle size widget makers scattered throughout the US. they'll expand and hire more people when they see the demand for more widgets. Edited August 4, 2017 by Snoslinger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 33 minutes ago, Rigid1 said: As a small business owner/operator, Its going to help, actually allow me to increase my business. Over the past 15 years of owning it I have chosen to stop doing very profitable things due to government regulations that would take away from the profitability. It got to the point that I downscaled by a minimum of 75% over the past 6-8 years. what do you do? let's say a regulation gets cut, saving you $20000 a year. what are you going to do with that? hire someone to stand around? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 Just now, Snoslinger said: what do you do? let's say a regulation gets cut, saving you $20000 a year. what are you going to do with that? hire someone to stand around? Smh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted August 4, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted August 4, 2017 8 minutes ago, Snoslinger said: what do you do? let's say a regulation gets cut, saving you $20000 a year. what are you going to do with that? hire someone to stand around? 7 minutes ago, FAT DAVE said: Smh Put em' on disability with Dumb Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Rigid1 Posted August 4, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted August 4, 2017 4 minutes ago, Snoslinger said: what do you do? let's say a regulation gets cut, saving you $20000 a year. what are you going to do with that? hire someone to stand around? I would hire the 2 guys I had before, increase my business by 75% compared to the current, make 80k a season rather than the 15k I do now, go back to being legit and pay taxes, and just be an owner, not an owner/operator. Neat how it works,,ehh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 3 minutes ago, SnowRider said: Put em' on disability with Dumb Dave Dude if I was on disability....I wouldnt be in youtube videos doing stupid shit on an atv. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Rigid1 said: I would hire the 2 guys I had before, increase my business by 75% compared to the current, make 80k a season rather than the 15k I do now, go back to being legit and pay taxes, and just be an owner, not an owner/operator. Neat how it works,,ehh so what do you do? why don't you hire them now if your business will increase 75% and you'd make 80K? 15k? is that a joke? Edited August 4, 2017 by Snoslinger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Rigid1 Posted August 4, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted August 4, 2017 Well Slinger, its almost 5pm, time to punch out of work and go to work.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 Just now, Rigid1 said: Well Slinger, its almost 5pm, time to punch out of work and go to work.. you are so full of shit... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Rigid1 Posted August 4, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted August 4, 2017 Just now, Snoslinger said: so what do you do? why don't you hire them now if your business will increase 75%? 15k? is that a joke? Because of government regulations, I have to pay for their schooling, updates yearly for said employee, equipment inspections, log data, licensing.. its not worth it.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, Rigid1 said: Because of government regulations, I have to pay for their schooling, updates yearly for said employee, equipment inspections, log data, licensing.. its not worth it.. wtf? why can't you tell me what you do so I can see your customer base? you don't have to be specific. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Rigid1 Posted August 4, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted August 4, 2017 Just now, Snoslinger said: you are so full of shit... haha,, yeah buddy.. no worries.. people here know I work a normal job as a sales rep for a company that sells commercial power equipment, and own a seasonal business.. Hint..one coincides with the other.. I bet you can figure it out.. and 15k cash for 120-ish hours of run time a season aint bad homie.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 Just now, Rigid1 said: haha,, yeah buddy.. no worries.. people here know I work a normal job as a sales rep for a company that sells commercial power equipment, and own a seasonal business.. Hint..one coincides with the other.. I bet you can figure it out.. and 15k cash for 120-ish hours of run time a season aint bad homie.. so your seasonal business customer base would increase if some of these regulations were cut? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 and why do you need to pay for people's schooling? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Rigid1 Posted August 4, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted August 4, 2017 Just now, Snoslinger said: so your seasonal business customer base would increase if some of these regulations were cut? definitely, I sold all my accounts to a competitor.. Just now, Snoslinger said: and why do you need to pay for people's schooling? Because the government requires it, or a 5k+ fine if you cannot produce the license and proof you are certified.. Got to go, Ill be back in 2 hours when I get done and cleaned up.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 Just now, Rigid1 said: definitely, I sold all my accounts to a competitor.. Because the government requires it, or a 5k+ fine if you cannot produce the license and proof you are certified.. Got to go, Ill be back in 2 hours when I get done and cleaned up.. well let me tell you something. if I were in your shoes and could get more customers, resulting in much more pay, I wouldn't be waiting around for a regulation to drop to do so. I'd get a loan or something and going by what you've been indicating, it wouldn't take long to pay it back. what would your 2 new hires bring to the table? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICEMAN! Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 6 minutes ago, Rigid1 said: definitely, I sold all my accounts to a competitor.. Because the government requires it, or a 5k+ fine if you cannot produce the license and proof you are certified.. Got to go, Ill be back in 2 hours when I get done and cleaned up.. The competitor obviously never had to deal with all those pesky regulations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 1 hour ago, Snoslinger said: so most businesses can offshore jobs overseas? regulations don't really have shit to do with those decisions - it's the cheap ass labor and other things. I'm talking about middle size widget makers scattered throughout the US. they'll expand and hire more people when they see the demand for more widgets. Are you not an engineer? We always strive to make processes more cost efficient. Most of the companies I work with, the labor cost account for less than 15% of the cost of selling goods. Sure labor is a factor but its not the only one. Many companies moving out of Ontario, labor costs are not the reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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