motonoggin Posted June 18, 2017 Author Share Posted June 18, 2017 Just now, Snake said: Face it. You're ideas require rewiring of the human brain and everything millions of years of, yes, EVOLUTION, has taught us to survive. You may as well be advocating cats give birth to dogs. Lol, nope. Your understanding of human nature is tragically shallow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Just now, motonoggin said: Lol, nope. Your understanding of human nature is tragically shallow And yours is a pipe dream never realized. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted June 18, 2017 Author Share Posted June 18, 2017 But hey, I'm so fucking wrong, you'd think you dipshits would just ignore me. But you don't, because you know I'm fucking right. And it's your generation that's going to drive the next right into socialism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 7 minutes ago, Anler said: Sure they can go wherever they want... Unless they don't have the resources to get there. And don't think for a minute the people who live in the wealthier zip codes want a bunch of undesirables going to school with their kids. We tried that in Chicago and it failed miserably. The result was parents not sending their kids to school and riots. Next example? don't give me they cant get there bull shit . my first day of school in 1st grade we stood in line for picks for our city bus card . just because kids and there parents are pussys now dose not mean they cant ride city a bus . with a voucher that privet will get reimbursed for the middle class can flip in a few more bucks and go privet now so there kid can actually get a real education . Privet schools will pop up everyplace with a new system in place . the teachers union will be fucked and soon out of work. you cant just think with in the confines of the current system . I have a friend who opened a small school in TX 10 yrs ago with 4 kids of hippy decent lol . she now has like 30 and is ranked in the top 3 in her city every year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 10 minutes ago, motonoggin said: But hey, I'm so fucking wrong, you'd think you dipshits would just ignore me. But you don't, because you know I'm fucking right. And it's your generation that's going to drive the next right into socialism. Then don't comment on Trump, the direction of the country.... etc etc... cause "I'm right".... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted June 18, 2017 Author Share Posted June 18, 2017 33 minutes ago, Snake said: Then don't comment on Trump, the direction of the country.... etc etc... cause "I'm right".... I'll gore your precious Trump oxen when I want Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Capitalism is bad ha 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mileage Psycho Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 2 hours ago, motonoggin said: The fsce capitalist bootlickers summed up: Motonoggin meets the Big Lebowski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 53 minutes ago, motonoggin said: Lol, nope. Your understanding of human nature is tragically shallow no I am pretty sure yours is way way over colored with rose colored glasses . 95% will be looking out for there's first and foremost no matter what government you put in pace to try to control them. and make no mistake the government you want will in very short order be at the trough gorging off the fruit of the people they ALWAYS have and ALWAYS will Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 2 hours ago, Snake said: Anything you fuckers DON'T fail at? We have towns around here with primary and middle schools but no high schools. When they reach high school, the town offers them a choice to go to any school in the area, and will send their per pupil share of education funds with them. Many go to regular high schools, many go to one of several, high end private schools. Odd.... for over so many years those schools, parents and students have no issues with POOR UNDESIRABLES. One more reason the mid west sucks, I guess. Ship a bunch if inner city niggers to your kids school and tell me how that works out, Einstein... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 3 minutes ago, Anler said: ship a bunch if inner city niggers to your kids school and tell me how that works out, Einstein... inner city nigger parents sorry parent or more likely grandmother is not going to make the effort to get there burden 30 mi to a good school . but a inner city black family trying to get ahead will do what it takes to get there kid in to a decent school to and have already instilled the tools in them to succeed n a better environment . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 13 minutes ago, Anler said: Ship a bunch if inner city niggers to your kids school and tell me how that works out, Einstein... Some truth to this for sure. It's the fastest way to bring any schools testing GPA down. And that's sad...but sadness doesn't make it NOT true. 6 minutes ago, Ez ryder said: inner city nigger parents sorry parent or more likely grandmother is not going to make the effort to get there burden 30 mi to a good school . but a inner city black family trying to get ahead will do what it takes to get there kid in to a decent school to and have already instilled the tools in them to succeed n a better environment . It's not that easy for most inner city parents. Fact is, since this is turning into a racial thing, negro intellect develops at different levels than others. I just don't find that an acceptable enough excuse for our educators to call it quits and blame the system rather than themselves. And let's be honest with our education system and what once was the respected stuards of it: the blame game. Go union! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 12 minutes ago, Ez ryder said: inner city nigger parents sorry parent or more likely grandmother is not going to make the effort to get there burden 30 mi to a good school . but a inner city black family trying to get ahead will do what it takes to get there kid in to a decent school to and have already instilled the tools in them to succeed n a better environment . They were bused in. And that's not what you said earlier... You said they can find a way to get there... Which is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 2 minutes ago, Zambroski said: Some truth to this for sure. It's the fastest way to bring any schools testing GPA down. And that's sad...but sadness doesn't make it NOT true. It's not that easy for most inner city parents. Fact is, since this is turning into a racial thing, negro intellect develops at different levels than others. I just don't find that an acceptable enough excuse for our educators to call it quits and blame the system rather than themselves. And let's be honest with our education system and what once was the respected stuards of it: the blame game. Go union! It's not about test scores... People buy nice big houses in nice neighborhoods to get away from that shit. Then someone decides to ship them in? You can guess how that was received... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted June 18, 2017 Author Share Posted June 18, 2017 1 hour ago, Ez ryder said: no I am pretty sure yours is way way over colored with rose colored glasses . 95% will be looking out for there's first and foremost no matter what government you put in pace to try to control them. and make no mistake the government you want will in very short order be at the trough gorging off the fruit of the people they ALWAYS have and ALWAYS will I'm not saying that humans don't have an instinct for self preservation of themselves and their loved ones. What I'm saying is that capitalism has set up self interest against common interest. The tragedy of it all is that these things aren't opposing forces. They've just managed to convince everyone that they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 4 minutes ago, Anler said: It's not about test scores... People buy nice big houses in nice neighborhoods to get away from that shit. Then someone decides to ship them in? You can guess how that was received... Oh, I know. Let's be honest if we're going off the education part of it, most of these kids "shipped in" don't want to be shipped in at all, and they bring all their delinquent traits and problems with them when they do. Saw it first hand for a decade. What a fucking mess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 4 minutes ago, Zambroski said: Oh, I know. Let's be honest if we're going off the education part of it, most of these kids "shipped in" don't want to be shipped in at all, and they bring all their delinquent traits and problems with them when they do. Saw it first hand for a decade. What a fucking mess. As soon as kaitlyn brings home Tyrone the house goes up for sale. I've watched this play out my whole life. That's why we have suburbs and now X burbs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold War Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 In the deep hood, speaking proper English and excelling academically is considered " acting white". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 2 minutes ago, Anler said: As soon as kaitlyn brings home Tyrone the house goes up for sale. I've watched this play out my whole life. That's why we have suburbs and now X burbs... Not sure "Kaitlyn" is the wholesome name it used to be. But you are correct. Suburbs move further and further out from metro to get out of these types of messes. Fastest way to make an outlying area grow is introduce a new school building program. Saw that play out also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Just now, Zambroski said: Not sure "Kaitlyn" is the wholesome name it used to be. But you are correct. Suburbs move further and further out from metro to get out of these types of messes. Fastest way to make an outlying area grow is introduce a new school building program. Saw that play out also. Where I live now was mostly farms 30 years ago. Now you can only build a house no less than 2,600sf and at least a portion of the front of the house must be masonry and no asphalt driveways. Oh and abso-fucking-lutely no apartment buildings or condos. Why do you suppose they have covenants like that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 2 minutes ago, Anler said: Where I live now was mostly farms 30 years ago. Now you can only build a house no less than 2,600sf and at least a portion of the front of the house must be masonry and no asphalt driveways. Oh and abso-fucking-lutely no apartment buildings or condos. Why do you suppose they have covenants like that? Ha! The last suburban area I lived in got a whiff of Habitat for Humanity digging around for a row of lots....BAM! New city building ordinance was passed. That was that. It all sounds racist and/or elitist but it's legal and every community has a right to grow how and the way they want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Zambroski said: Ha! The last suburban area I lived in got a whiff of Habitat for Humanity digging around for a row of lots....BAM! New city building ordinance was passed. That was that. It all sounds racist and/or elitist but it's legal and every community has a right to grow how and the way they want. Well now there are examples of what has happened in the past so new communities can plan to avoid those mistakes. Now we just have the self righteous assholes and the annoyingly cheap ass Dutch to deal with.... Edited June 18, 2017 by Anler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 28 minutes ago, Anler said: They were bused in. And that's not what you said earlier... You said they can find a way to get there... Which is it? no I never said buss them in ever . I said my first day of school in 1st grade we got our pick taken for our city bus pass. not a big orange school bus a city bus. I never said it was the schools responsibility to get a kid to school I said if a family wants there kid to go to a good school they will find a way to get them there. shit family's will not take the time or effort. I had a theoretical kid living at my address for 4 years . my wife's friend had a husband die she was not going to send the kid to school in the part of town she could afford to live . she or a friend or her mother would drive the kid to school every day . and she would come to my house and do homework till mom got off work every day until mom could afford a place in my town . huge pain for the mom hell yes . would any family who gives a shit do the same? if they really gave a shit yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 34 minutes ago, Anler said: It's not about test scores... People buy nice big houses in nice neighborhoods to get away from that shit. Then someone decides to ship them in? You can guess how that was received... again you are looking at this through the lens of the system we have in place now. you have voucher accepted any place small privet schools will be popping up every place . putting the huge overpriced massive class size building out of fashion in short order . the biggest cost from what I gather is special ed and prob kids . there is going to have to be places for them but like every thing there will have to be places that get more $ to deal with them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 36 minutes ago, motonoggin said: I'm not saying that humans don't have an instinct for self preservation of themselves and their loved ones. What I'm saying is that capitalism has set up self interest against common interest. The tragedy of it all is that these things aren't opposing forces. They've just managed to convince everyone that they are. I don't believe that capitalism has set up self interest against common interest. just look at the charity's in this country. most people who have made it tend to be pretty generous in the charity department . hell 2 family's in my parts just completed full office building just to deal with there charity . the Carlson's built a 3 level building in Eden Prairie and the Cargill's built a 2 story in Minnetonka and the Davis family "cambria" from what I understand are consolidating all there philanthropy workers to 1 floor of the EP building . the list is endless . Americans are Extremely giving as a whole I would bet the most giving country out there . and this is before even counting government giving away tax payer money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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