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5 Statistics You Need To Know About Cops Killing Blacks


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There needs to be an HONEST discussion around cop shootings.  Inflammatory rhetoric from the President of the US does not help.

http://www.dailywire.com/news/7264/5-statistics-you-need-know-about-cops-killing-aaron-bandler

1. Cops killed nearly twice as many whites as blacks in 2015. According to data compiled by The Washington Post, 50 percent of the victims of fatal police shootings were white, while 26 percent were black. The majority of these victims had a gun or "were armed or otherwise threatening the officer with potentially lethal force," according to MacDonald in a speech at Hillsdale College.

Some may argue that these statistics are evidence of racist treatment toward blacks, since whites consist of 62 percent of the population and blacks make up 12 percent of the population. But as MacDonald writes in The Wall Street Journal, 2009 statistics from the Bureau of Justice Statistics reveal that blacks were charged with 62 percent of robberies, 57 percent of murders and 45 percent of assaults in the 75 biggest counties in the country, despite only comprising roughly 15 percent of the population in these counties.

"Such a concentration of criminal violence in minority communities means that officers will be disproportionately confronting armed and often resisting suspects in those communities, raising officers’ own risk of using lethal force," writes MacDonald.

MacDonald also pointed out in her Hillsdale speech that blacks "commit 75 percent of all shootings, 70 percent of all robberies, and 66 percent of all violent crime" in New York City, even though they consist of 23 percent of the city's population.

"The black violent crime rate would actually predict that more than 26 percent of police victims would be black," MacDonald said. "Officer use of force will occur where the police interact most often with violent criminals, armed suspects, and those resisting arrest, and that is in black neighborhoods."

2. More whites and Hispanics die from police homicides than blacks. According to MacDonald, 12 percent of white and Hispanic homicide deaths were due to police officers, while only four percent of black homicide deaths were the result of police officers.

"If we’re going to have a 'Lives Matter' anti-police movement, it would be more appropriately named "White and Hispanic Lives Matter,'" said MacDonald in her Hillsdale speech.

3. The Post's data does show that unarmed black men are more likely to die by the gun of a cop than an unarmed white man...but this does not tell the whole story. In August 2015, the ratio was seven-to-one of unarmed black men dying from police gunshots compared to unarmed white men; the ratio was six-to-one by the end of 2015. But MacDonald points out in The Marshall Project that looking at the details of the actual incidents that occurred paints a different picture:

The “unarmed” label is literally accurate, but it frequently fails to convey highly-charged policing situations. In a number of cases, if the victim ended up being unarmed, it was certainly not for lack of trying. At least five black victims had reportedly tried to grab the officer’s gun, or had been beating the cop with his own equipment. Some were shot from an accidental discharge triggered by their own assault on the officer. And two individuals included in the Post’s “unarmed black victims” category were struck by stray bullets aimed at someone else in justified cop shootings. If the victims were not the intended targets, then racism could have played no role in their deaths.

In one of those unintended cases, an undercover cop from the New York Police Department was conducting a gun sting in Mount Vernon, just north of New York City. One of the gun traffickers jumped into the cop’s car, stuck a pistol to his head, grabbed $2,400 and fled. The officer gave chase and opened fire after the thief again pointed his gun at him. Two of the officer’s bullets accidentally hit a 61-year-old bystander, killing him. That older man happened to be black, but his race had nothing to do with his tragic death. In the other collateral damage case, Virginia Beach, Virginia, officers approached a car parked at a convenience store that had a homicide suspect in the passenger seat. The suspect opened fire, sending a bullet through an officer’s shirt. The cops returned fire, killing their assailant as well as a woman in the driver’s seat. That woman entered the Post’s database without qualification as an “unarmed black victim” of police fire.

MacDonald examines a number of other instances, including unarmed black men in San Diego, CA and Prince George's County, MD attempting to reach for a gun in a police officer's holster. In the San Diego case, the unarmed black man actually "jumped the officer" and assaulted him, and the cop shot the man since he was "fearing for his life." MacDonald also notes that there was an instance in 2015 where "three officers were killed with their own guns, which the suspects had wrestled from them."

4. Black and Hispanic police officers are more likely to fire a gun at blacks than white officers. This is according to a Department of Justice report in 2015 about the Philadelphia Police Department, and is further confirmed that by a study conducted University of Pennsylvania criminologist Gary Ridgeway in 2015 that determined black cops were 3.3 times more likely to fire a gun than other cops at a crime scene. 

5. Blacks are more likely to kill cops than be killed by cops. This is according to FBI data, which also found that 40 percent of cop killers are black. According to MacDonald, the police officer is 18.5 times more likely to be killed by a black than a cop killing an unarmed black person.

Despite the facts, the anti-police rhetoric of Black Lives Matter and their leftist sympathizers have resulted in what MacDonald calls the "Ferguson Effect," as murders have spiked by 17 percent among the 50 biggest cities in the U.S. as a result of cops being more reluctant to police neighborhoods out of fear of being labeled as racists. Additionally, there have been over twice as many cops victimized by fatal shootings in the first three months of 2016.

Anti-police rhetoric has deadly consequences.

 

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1 minute ago, Cold War said:

Sad when the POTUS perpetrates these same lies and misinformation.

And people on here refuse to understand how divisive he is.  :nuts:  Hispanics and Latino's should understand when he is talking about people being afraid because of the "color of their skin" he is not talking about them.  Never will you see him going on TV talking about cops and Latino's.  

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4 minutes ago, Anler said:

So are you excusing police brutality and murder because more whites are victims than blacks?

Wow.   No, I'm just saying all the facts regarding crime, police involved shootings and what not all should be discussed honestly and openly.   Not just when a black man gets shot by police who shouldn't have.  

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Wow.   No, I'm just saying all the facts regarding crime, police involved shootings and what not all should be discussed honestly and openly.   Not just when a black man gets shot by police who shouldn't have.  

So whites are the real victims and blacks should just shut up because its worse for whites?

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2 minutes ago, Anler said:

So whites are the real victims and blacks should just shut up because its worse for whites?

Fuck dude, seek help.   That's not what I'm saying and you fucking know it.  

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1 minute ago, Highmark said:

Fuck dude, seek help.   That's not what I'm saying and you fucking know it.  

Not sure what the point of that OP is really. It sure seems like people who post shit like that excuse police abuse against minorities because more whites are victims of police abuse. But I dont know of any white people who were speaking out against police abuse before the blacks started doing it...

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3 minutes ago, Anler said:

Not sure what the point of that OP is really. It sure seems like people who post shit like that excuse police abuse against minorities because more whites are victims of police abuse. But I dont know of any white people who were speaking out against police abuse before the blacks started doing it...

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8 minutes ago, Anler said:

Not sure what the point of that OP is really. It sure seems like people who post shit like that excuse police abuse against minorities because more whites are victims of police abuse. But I dont know of any white people who were speaking out against police abuse before the blacks started doing it...

Oh yeah?

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Reality is, right or wrong there is a culture of fear in all cops not just white cops when it comes to dealing with African American men.  look at the statistics in the article.   Even African American leaders in the US have made comments of being afraid of young black men.  Mark Cuban said it as well that he would cross the street to avoid a young black  male in a hoodie.   There is a reason for this and part of the fix is lowering crime rates in black neighborhoods.  

I would never argue that blacks are being treated differently at times but the black community has to help and change as to why that still occurs today.   Its not pure racism anymore.  Some sure but the vast majority is because too many times the stereotype of the young black gang banger is true.  Read up on what the average cop see's every day in these communities.   You honestly think as a cop in Chicago where the vast majority of shootings and murders are committed by black gang members that police don't get on edge when dealing with them?    

We need to be honest to why crime rates in certain neighborhoods are so high.  Its not just poverty much has to do with lack of parental guidance.   

We need to point the finger more and gangs and their propensity towards violence.   ALL GANGS not just black gangs.

We need to train officers better.

We need to find a way to keep kids in school.

We are not going to snap our fingers and stop some of the stereotyping of young black men without some changes within their own communities.  

 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Highmark said:

Reality is, right or wrong there is a culture of fear in all cops not just white cops when it comes to dealing with African American men.  look at the statistics in the article.   Even African American leaders in the US have made comments of being afraid of young black men.  Mark Cuban said it as well that he would cross the street to avoid a young black  male in a hoodie.   There is a reason for this and part of the fix is lowering crime rates in black neighborhoods.  

I would never argue that blacks are being treated differently at times but the black community has to help and change as to why that still occurs today.   Its not pure racism anymore.  Some sure but the vast majority is because too many times the stereotype of the young black gang banger is true.  Read up on what the average cop see's every day in these communities.   You honestly think as a cop in Chicago where the vast majority of shootings and murders are committed by black gang members that police don't get on edge when dealing with them?    

We need to be honest to why crime rates in certain neighborhoods are so high.  Its not just poverty much has to do with lack of parental guidance.   

We need to point the finger more and gangs and their propensity towards violence.   ALL GANGS not just black gangs.

We need to train officers better.

We need to find a way to keep kids in school.

We are not going to snap our fingers and stop some of the stereotyping of young black men without some changes within their own communities.  

 

 

 

Just cut off their welfare and they will straighten right up! Bootstraps!

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33 minutes ago, Anler said:

Not sure what the point of that OP is really. It sure seems like people who post shit like that excuse police abuse against minorities because more whites are victims of police abuse. But I dont know of any white people who were speaking out against police abuse before the blacks started doing it...

Facts? :lol: 

No one is excusing anything, just debunking false information.

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4 minutes ago, Anler said:

Just cut off their welfare and they will straighten right up! Bootstraps!

God you're a retard.   Have a nice weekend.

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6 minutes ago, Cold War said:

Facts? :lol: 

No one is excusing anything, just debunking false information.

Whats the false information? Cops kill innocent people all the time and have forever. And forever they have covered it up. And when a group of people stand up against it they are discredited. Its the battered wife syndrome...

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51 minutes ago, Anler said:

Whats the false information? Cops kill innocent people all the time and have forever. And forever they have covered it up. And when a group of people stand up against it they are discredited. Its the battered wife syndrome...

That it is an epidemic............. blacks are being hunted in the streets...................... it never happens to white people, when in fact it happens more!

It is not a exclusively black thing , like the POTUS is claiming.

It wasn't a bs opinion  piece, it was a list of facts. 

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1 hour ago, Cold War said:

That it is an epidemic............. blacks are being hunted in the streets...................... it never happens to white people, when in fact it happens more!

It is not a exclusively black thing , like the POTUS is claiming.

It wasn't a bs opinion  piece, it was a list of facts. 

So you are ok with cops murdering people?

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10 minutes ago, Anler said:

So you are ok with cops murdering people?

Good, I was worried you would miss my thinly veiled attempt to make that exact point.

9_9

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6 hours ago, Anler said:

So are you excusing police brutality and murder because more whites are victims than blacks?

you are one stupid son of a bitch.  Go put a plastic bag over your head and just end it.

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1 hour ago, DriftBusta said:

you are one stupid son of a bitch.  Go put a plastic bag over your head and just end it.

You sound familiar. Like someone's dupe. Too embarrassed to be yourself I assume. Don't blame you.

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