Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted December 8, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted December 8, 2023 Just now, racer254 said: Fake electors. Another made up term for dipshits. Did they exist. Yes or no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted December 8, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted December 8, 2023 Just now, racer254 said: Fake electors. Another made up term for dipshits. What were they then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSFB Posted December 8, 2023 Author Share Posted December 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, racer254 said: Fake electors. Another made up term for dipshits. Is that why you used the term yesterday? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 3 minutes ago, SSFB said: Is that why you used the term yesterday? Show me where the term was used prior to 2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted December 8, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted December 8, 2023 4 minutes ago, racer254 said: Show me where the term was used prior to 2020 It wasn’t because nobody else tried to steal an election Self 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted December 8, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted December 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, SnowRider said: It wasn’t because nobody else tried to steal an election Self "If we could only find 11000 more votes..." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 Ask a simple question and nothing but deflection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akvanden Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 (edited) 15 minutes ago, racer254 said: Ask a simple question and nothing but deflection. Kind of like you on your oil/election comment the other night. Edited December 8, 2023 by akvanden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member ViperGTS/Z1 Posted December 9, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted December 9, 2023 (edited) 9 hours ago, Deephaven said: You should really pay attention to what really happened. Biden softened the path to legal status, he temporarily removed the wait in mexico but switched back, expanded the family green card capability and such but has arrested something like 3 times the number of people crossing. Both released similar percentages. ie, Trump didn't fix shit on the border. Biden definitely softened some things but they are unrelated to your problems with the border. Both were bandaids as well. Would be good to have a leader that would actually look at the root cause and resolve it. He made no changes to the 10% and 35% bracket. The 35% bracket is a good portion of the middle class. So no, he did NOT lower taxes on every bracket. So you're calling 231k to 578k middle class. .... Tell you what buddy ...That's not the definition of middle class. .... Bottom line is he decreased the tax bracket.... Except mainly on the wealthy and the poor who are already in a very low tax bracket.... Middle class actually benefited most Edited December 9, 2023 by ViperGTS/Z1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deephaven Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 $231k is middle class in San Francisco. Have to say, I thought people made more money than they do after I looked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member ViperGTS/Z1 Posted December 9, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted December 9, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Deephaven said: $231k is middle class in San Francisco. Have to say, I thought people made more money than they do after I looked. Well we can't all be ballers like you........ And San Francisco can keep all their middle class.. apparently it's not enough to keep the shit off the streets Edited December 9, 2023 by ViperGTS/Z1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSFB Posted December 9, 2023 Author Share Posted December 9, 2023 Dang, I’m not even middle class anymore. I should get a butler! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted December 9, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted December 9, 2023 40 minutes ago, ViperGTS/Z1 said: So you're calling 231k to 578k middle class. .... Tell you what buddy ...That's not the definition of middle class. .... Bottom line is he decreased the tax bracket.... Except mainly on the wealthy and the poor who are already in a very low tax bracket.... Middle class actually benefited most Anything under 400g and over 50g is middle class these days. Jmo of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deephaven Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 Either way, point is not a tax cut for everyone. As for the border Viper. What policy or change from Biden made it worse? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 13 hours ago, Deephaven said: $231k is middle class in San Francisco. Have to say, I thought people made more money than they do after I looked. Sure, in San Francisco, you need at least that much to live in that hellscape. Many other areas of the country thats living very well. 13 hours ago, Steve753 said: Anything under 400g and over 50g is middle class these days. Jmo of course. 400 grand a year is in the 99th percentile of income, so not even close. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted December 9, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted December 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, DriftBusta said: Sure, in San Francisco, you need at least that much to live in that hellscape. Many other areas of the country thats living very well. 400 grand a year is in the 99th percentile of income, so not even close. Thats why I said under chubby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 1 minute ago, Steve753 said: Thats why I said under chubby. You were still wrong Beavis. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member EvilBird Posted December 9, 2023 Gold Member Share Posted December 9, 2023 300-400k is not middle class GTFOH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 1 minute ago, EvilBird said: 300-400k is not middle class GTFOH 300-400k isn't even middle class in Beverly Hills. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted December 9, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted December 9, 2023 Just now, EvilBird said: 300-400k is not middle class GTFOH It sure is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 1 minute ago, Steve753 said: It sure is. Do you understand what 99th percentile means? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member EvilBird Posted December 9, 2023 Gold Member Share Posted December 9, 2023 1 minute ago, Steve753 said: It sure is. If you said Upper Middle class maybe id agree. No wonder you look down on people with less money. So if I Guy makes 100k a year thats poor? 200k more and that gets you middle class Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted December 9, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted December 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, DriftBusta said: Do you understand what 99th percentile means? Yes. Thats anyone making over 500g. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted December 9, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted December 9, 2023 Just now, EvilBird said: If you said Upper Middle class maybe id agree. No wonder you look down on people with less money. So if I Guy makes 100k a year thats poor? 200k more and that gets you middle class My names not Dementiabusta. If youre happy with your income. Im happy for you. You’ll never see me play the im better than you game he does. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member EvilBird Posted December 9, 2023 Gold Member Share Posted December 9, 2023 1 minute ago, Steve753 said: My names not Dementiabusta. If youre happy with your income. Im happy for you. You’ll never see me play the im better than you game he does. Who said anything about MY income.... All I know is I got friends I consider middle class and they are probably less than $100k Got friends that are closer to $400k and they live significantly different lives . Middle Class sure seems to have a wide definition nowdays . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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