Shitbag fucking cowards. 

 

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MADISON, Wis. (AP) — Ten Republicans who posed as fake electors for former President Donald Trump in Wisconsin and filed paperwork falsely saying he had won the battleground state have settled a civil lawsuit and admitted their actions were part of an effort to overturn President Joe Biden’s victory, attorneys who filed the case announced Wednesday.

Under the agreement, the fake electors acknowledged that Biden won the state, withdrew their filings and agreed not to serve as presidential electors in 2024 or any other election where Trump is on the ballot.

The 10 fake electors agreed to send a statement to the government offices that received the Electoral College votes saying that their actions were “part of an attempt to improperly overturn the 2020 presidential election results.”

The settlement marks the first time that any Trump electors have revoked their filings sent to Congress purporting that Trump had won in seven battleground states. Nevada on Wednesday became the third state to criminally charge fake electors, following Georgia and Michigan. Trump faces charges in Georgia and in a federal investigation of his conduct related to the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol riot.

 

The settlement was announced by Law Forward, Georgetown University Law Center’s Institute for Constitutional Advocacy and Protection and the Madison-based Stafford Rosenbaum law firm.

“Americans believe in democracy and the idea that the people choose their leaders through elections,” said Jeff Mandell, one of the attorneys who brought the case on behalf of Democratic voters, including two who served as Biden electors. “The defendants’ actions violated those bedrock principles. We brought this case to ensure that they are held accountable.”

There is no known criminal investigation ongoing in Wisconsin. Democratic Attorney General Josh Kaul has signaled that he is relying on federal investigators to look into what happened in Wisconsin, while also not ruling out a state probe.

Democrats brought the lawsuit last year seeking $2.4 million in damages from 10 Republicans who submitted a document to Congress falsely declaring Trump as the 2020 election winner in Wisconsin. They also sued two of Trump’s attorneys, including one who has already pleaded guilty to other charges stemming from the 2020 election in Georgia.

The case was scheduled to go to a trial by jury in September 2024, two months before the presidential election.

Under the deal, the fake electors don’t pay any damages or attorneys fees and there is no admission of wrongdoing or liability.

The Wisconsin GOP electors have long said that they were partaking in the plan in case a court later ruled that Trump had won the state. One of the fake electors, former Wisconsin state Republican Chairman Andrew Hitt, repeated that position in a statement Wednesday.

“The Wisconsin electors were tricked and misled into participating in what became the alternate elector scheme and would have never taken any actions had we known that there were ulterior reasons beyond preserving an ongoing legal strategy,” he said. Hitt said he has been working with the Justice Department since May of 2022 and he will not be supporting Trump in 2024.

The fake elector plan hatched in seven battleground states was central to the federal indictment filed against Trump earlier in August that alleged he tried to overturn results of the 2020 election. Federal prosecutors said the scheme originated in Wisconsin.

Fake electors met in Wisconsin and six other states where Trump was defeated in 2020 and signed certificates that falsely stated Trump, not Biden, won their states. The fake certificates were ignored.

One of the attorneys named in the Wisconsin lawsuit, Kenneth Chesebro, pleaded guilty to a felony charge of conspiracy to commit filing false documents after being charged with participating in efforts to overturn Trump’s loss in Georgia. Chesebro was charged alongside Trump and 17 others with violating the state’s anti-racketeering law.

The Wisconsin lawsuit cites a memo Chesebro sent to Trump’s attorney in Wisconsin, Jim Troupis, in November 2020 detailing the elector plan.

Under the settlement, the 10 fake electors promised to assist the Department of Justice with its ongoing investigation. They also agreed to help the Democrats as they continue their lawsuit against Troupis and Chesebro.

Troupis and Chesebro did not return voicemail messages seeking comment.

The fake electors also released nearly 600 pages of documents related to their scheme, under terms of the settlement.

Those show one Republican involved with the fake elector plot texting another one referring to their action declaring Trump the winner of Wisconsin as a “possible steal.” The sender said they felt compelled to go along with the plan or else Trump supporters would be upset and there “would be a target on my back.”

Government and outside investigationshave uniformly found there was no evidence of widespread voter fraud that could have swung the election from Biden. Trump has continued to spread falsehoods about the 2020 election.

Electors are people appointed to represent voters in presidential elections. The winner of the popular vote in each state determines which party’s electors are sent to the Electoral College, which meets in December after the election to certify the outcome.

https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-fake-electors-wisconsin-fff7cd21e3083f300874eccd69141f8d

 

35 minutes ago, EvilBird said:

Who said anything about MY income....

All I know is I got friends I consider middle class and they are probably less than $100k 

Got friends that are closer to $400k and they live significantly different lives . 

Middle Class sure seems to have a wide definition nowdays . 

You've got that right.

27 minutes ago, DriftBusta said:

Thanks for playing Steve.  

Income Percentile Calculator for the United States (dqydj.com)

What Income Is Considered Middle Class?

The Pew Research Center defines "middle class" as an income that ranges between two-thirds and double the median income. The exact boundaries of a middle-class income vary by family size and location, due to the geographical differences in cost of living. That works out to an annual income between $52,000 and $156,000 for a three-person household, as of 2020.4

Oh really?  Holy self awareness....or lack thereof.  Mr. fuck you money, 400 grand a year is middle class, 3 Cadillacs, pay cash for a new F350 and takes 6 months off a year guy   Thanks for the morning laugh.  

F 350 cost me 19g out of pocket.

Total for all 3 caddys 86g.

Hardly alot of money over time.

27 minutes ago, Steve753 said:

F 350 cost me 19g out of pocket.

Total for all 3 caddys 86g.

Hardly alot of money over time.

Like I said, you're the most unaware guy on here.  

2 minutes ago, DriftBusta said:

Like I said, you're the most unaware guy on here.  

Snakes got 3 BMWs and a new truck and not a word from you.

God I love this place!

1 minute ago, Steve753 said:

Snakes got 3 BMWs and a new truck and not a word from you.

God I love this place!

I must of missed where Snake acted like $400k was chump change middle class income 

6 minutes ago, EvilBird said:

I must of missed where Snake acted like $400k was chump change middle class income 

Where did I say it was chump change? I was merely stating thats how wide the middle class is. It obviously offended you and your dad.

Just now, Steve753 said:

Where did I say it was chump change? I was merely stating thats how wide the middle class is. It obviously offended you and your dad.

Not offended one bit . Just find it funny. 

Didn't know my Dad joined whats his SN? 

Just now, EvilBird said:

Not offended one bit . Just find it funny. 

Didn't know my Dad joined whats his SN? 

You found something funny that I didnt say.

Just now, Steve753 said:

You found something funny that I didnt say.

Dont care who said it find it funny that $400k is now todays "middle class"

Same as the Guy making $80k  . 

No wonder we are fucked . 
 

6 hours ago, DriftBusta said:

Like I said, you're the most unaware guy on here.  

Captain Awareness!

After the Dem forced inflation $400k is well within the new middle class.  10 years ago it wouldn't have been.

7 hours ago, Steve753 said:

Snakes got 3 BMWs and a new truck and not a word from you.

God I love this place!

He's not the one claiming 400 grand a year is middle class.  Its the income of the 99th percentile of household income.  99th percentile isn't middle class you doofus.   

1 hour ago, Deephaven said:

Captain Awareness!

So you don't statistic I guess....

1 hour ago, DriftBusta said:

He's not the one claiming 400 grand a year is middle class.  Its the income of the 99th percentile of household income.  99th percentile isn't middle class you doofus.   

So you don't statistic I guess....

Under 400g. Jesus you're as illiterate as your dopey son for christ sakes.

And I was wrong, its even higher!

What is the top 1% household income?

To be in the top 1% in 2023, a household needed to earn $591,550. $570,003 was the non-inflation-adjusted threshold in 2022

Edited December 10, 20231 yr by Steve753

9 hours ago, EvilBird said:

Not offended one bit . Just find it funny. 

Didn't know my Dad joined whats his SN? 

Olderevilbird? 

1 hour ago, Steve753 said:

Under 400g. Jesus you're as illiterate as your dopey son for christ sakes.

And I was wrong, its even higher!

What is the top 1% household income?

To be in the top 1% in 2023, a household needed to earn $591,550. $570,003 was the non-inflation-adjusted threshold in 2022

Hey newsflash, 399k is still 99th percentile, still not middle class.  You're still wrong, ok?  But we're getting somewhere because now we can rule out chief of police, economist and statistician as far as what you do too   

Edited December 10, 20231 yr by DriftBusta

17 minutes ago, DriftBusta said:

Hey newsflash, 399k is still 99th percentile, still not middle class.  You're still wrong, ok?  But we're getting somewhere because now we can rule out chief of police, economist and statistician as far as what you do too   

Maybe I should've said upper middle class. Regardless you're still incorrect.

 

 

Edited December 10, 20231 yr by Steve753

Just now, Steve753 said:

Maybe I should've said upper middle class. Regardless you're still incorrect.

 

 

Middle class doofus.  400k is not middle class.  And I listed my source for #s, which differ from those you listed, which cite no source.  Tap out dude, tomorrow's a new day.

39 minutes ago, DriftBusta said:

Middle class doofus.  400k is not middle class.  And I listed my source for #s, which differ from those you listed, which cite no source.  Tap out dude, tomorrow's a new day.

From your link. You're still wrong!

And thats individual. Not household.

 

Edited December 10, 20231 yr by Steve753

Even the graph from your link shows you're wrong.

 

Stheve is still spiraling so dumb 

I don’t get to say this often.

Nerd fight!

 

1 minute ago, SSFB said:

I don’t get to say this often.

Nerd fight!

 

What about a tranny that makes $400k a year? Are we forced to use the proper pronoun? 

1 minute ago, spin_dry said:

What about a tranny that makes $400k a year? Are we forced to use the proper pronoun? 

Not until Biden’s second term!

 

3 minutes ago, EvilBird said:

Stheve is still spiraling so dumb 

If dementiabusta wasn't such an idiot Steve wouldn't have had to respond.  Citing facts like AC that don't match your link is hilarious and should end in a public berating.  The downward spiral is all the dude responding with emotion instead of thought.  Classic wolfie behavior.

  

Just now, SSFB said:

Not until Biden’s second term!

 

He’ll give em extra tax breaks too.