Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted December 6, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted December 6, 2023 https://www.instagram.com/reel/C0ZKQudozOm/?igshid=NTYzOWQzNmJjMA== Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Danger Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 To late already been censored. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 2 hours ago, Highmark said: https://www.instagram.com/reel/C0ZKQudozOm/?igshid=NTYzOWQzNmJjMA== It was never a Jewish (pre ‘48) state during that history either… There needs to be a two state solution with strong border security. Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 Wasn’t it Roman’s that actually made “Palestine”? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airflite1 Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 (edited) NBC news is finally reporting on the atrocities, I think Israelis response is correct and instead of calling for a cease fire, there should be calls for Hamas to surrender. https://www.aol.com/news/bodies-tell-stories-not-alive-232606539.html Edited December 6, 2023 by airflite1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 10 hours ago, NaturallyAspirated said: It was never a Jewish (pre ‘48) state during that history either… There needs to be a two state solution with strong border security. Neal That ship tried to sail 5 times. Israel finally left without them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 There was never a need for a Palestinian state before the Jews horned in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 Just now, spin_dry said: There was never a need for a Palestinian state before the Jews horned in. And it never really was a thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 Just now, Rod said: And it never really was a thing Neither was Israel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 33 minutes ago, spin_dry said: Neither was Israel. It has been long inhabited by both groups however. It should be a two state, strong border solution. Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 48 minutes ago, spin_dry said: Neither was Israel. Except for when it actually was Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted December 6, 2023 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted December 6, 2023 (edited) 12 hours ago, NaturallyAspirated said: It was never a Jewish (pre ‘48) state during that history either… There needs to be a two state solution with strong border security. Neal Agreed and so has Israel.....5 times. Fact is one side is willing for peace the other isn't. One side is calling for the complete destruction of the other. Edited December 6, 2023 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 27 minutes ago, Rod said: Except for when it actually was Oh bullshit. No one in Israel today would even recognize what was going on there a few thousand years ago. That is such a pathetic argument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 43 minutes ago, Highmark said: Agreed and so has Israel.....5 times. Fact is one side is willing for peace the other isn't. One side is calling for the complete destruction of the other. Sure, but Israel has encroached on those boarders since, and that land should be abandoned and a hard boarder observed. Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted December 6, 2023 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted December 6, 2023 18 minutes ago, NaturallyAspirated said: Sure, but Israel has encroached on those boarders since, and that land should be abandoned and a hard boarder observed. Neal The vast majority of which is territory taken in the protection of its country after attacks or troops massing on their border. Israel has given much back including the Gaza strip after it built most of the infrastructure. Simply never be accepted by Hamas, Hezbollah or the Palestinians in general. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 38 minutes ago, Highmark said: The vast majority of which is territory taken in the protection of its country after attacks or troops massing on their border. Israel has given much back including the Gaza strip after it built most of the infrastructure. Simply never be accepted by Hamas, Hezbollah or the Palestinians in general. Doesn’t matter, the boarder should not be resettled. Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted December 6, 2023 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted December 6, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, NaturallyAspirated said: Doesn’t matter, the boarder should not be resettled. Neal Easy for you to say. Its not Israel stopping peace. Its as simple as that. Edited December 6, 2023 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 Just now, Highmark said: Easy for you to say. Easy to be done. Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted December 6, 2023 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted December 6, 2023 Just now, NaturallyAspirated said: Easy to be done. Neal Not when only one side desires peace dude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 1 hour ago, NaturallyAspirated said: Sure, but Israel has encroached on those boarders since, and that land should be abandoned and a hard boarder observed. Neal The Israeli settlers have uprooted Palestinians in the West Bank that had been there for generations. Fucking thieves. Now they play the victim in all of this. The whole thing is disgusting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Danger Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 Under the ottoman empire the idea of a state was not even thought of as a concept. It is the Europeans that brought the idea of states and borders. The Romans took the historical enemy of the early Jews the Philistines and made a group of people the Palestinians in order to have an enemy against the Jews to take land. The Jews have been in that area a few thousand years before Palestinians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, Carlos Danger said: Under the ottoman empire the idea of a state was not even thought of as a concept. It is the Europeans that brought the idea of states and borders. The Romans took the historical enemy of the early Jews the Philistines and made a group of people the Palestinians in order to have an enemy against the Jews to take land. The Jews have been in that area a few thousand years before Palestinians. Just like how the west created the fantasy of Israel for the Arabs to have an enemy that would take land. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Danger Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 1 hour ago, NaturallyAspirated said: Sure, but Israel has encroached on those boarders since, and that land should be abandoned and a hard boarder observed. Neal When Israel got In a war with Egypt they ended up defeating Egypt and taking the entire Siani peninsula under there control. Israel traded that land for peace and that peace has lasted which is the point. Israel will trade land for peace Palestinians will not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 1 minute ago, Carlos Danger said: When Israel got In a war with Egypt they ended up defeating Egypt and taking the entire Siani peninsula under there control. Israel traded that land for peace and that peace has lasted which is the point. Israel will trade land for peace Palestinians will not That was all by design. The west had armed them to the teeth. The idea of the west creating a bordered foothold in that region had been in the works since the 1800’s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted December 6, 2023 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted December 6, 2023 11 minutes ago, spin_dry said: That was all by design. The west had armed them to the teeth. The idea of the west creating a bordered foothold in that region had been in the works since the 1800’s. So was the UAR, Jordan, Egypt, Iraq and Lebanon all in on this plan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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