Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted October 27, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 27, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, spin_dry said: Castings can be engineered to correct cracking. The casting can also accept welds. Toyota is moving in that direction as well. Their first models will be out in “26-“27. Toyota is going to fucking kill it. Anything can be changed to fix defects with more engineering. Are these even serviceable parts, the large castings? If they crack just throw away the whole car or, if lucky they can tear it down far enough to try for a decent weld lol Edited October 27, 2023 by Skidooski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 8 minutes ago, Skidooski said: Anything can be changed to fix defects with more engineering. Are these even serviceable parts, the large castings? If they crack just throw away the whole car or, if lucky they can tear it down far enough to try for a decent weld lol They are serviceable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 1 hour ago, BOHICA said: Ice manufactures are the top 3 subsidy receivers in all automotive subsidies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted October 27, 2023 Gold Member Share Posted October 27, 2023 True cost to a EV owner of 1585.7 miles of road tripping over the last 31 days… 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XCR1250 Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 • The cost of producing electric vehicles (EVs) is far higher than the prices they are being sold for. Nearly $22 billion in federal and state subsidies and regulatory credits suppressed the retail price of EVs in 2021 by an average of almost $50,000. • Thanks to an unlawful multiplier, EVs receive nearly seven times more credits under federal fuel efficiency programs than they provide in actual fuel economy benefits. • Regulatory credits with bonus EV multipliers from federal fuel efficiency and greenhouse gas emissions standards and state EV sales mandates provide an average of $27,881 in benefits per vehicle for producers of EVs. • Home and public charging stations used by EVs put a significant strain on the electric grid, resulting in an average of $11,833 in socialized costs per EV over 10 years, which are shouldered by utility ratepayers and taxpayers. • Direct state and federal subsidies for EVs average $8,984 per vehicle over 10 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member EvilBird Posted October 27, 2023 Gold Member Share Posted October 27, 2023 8 hours ago, EvilBird said: Hybrid is the way to go . 2 hours ago, Deephaven said: No way. Complexity of both. Fucking not something I would ever buy. Im just saying vs full EV me personally id rather have a Hybrid if I had to choose. But agree i dont want nothing to do with either . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member EvilBird Posted October 27, 2023 Gold Member Share Posted October 27, 2023 3 hours ago, Crnr2Crnr said: https://fortune.com/2023/10/25/honda-ceo-ending-partnership-gm-develop-affordable-evs-uaw-strike-automaker/ yep saw that too. Honda will make better shit than GM not worried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deephaven Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 I am all down with an EV once they resolve the usability concerns. That's right around the corner. No hybrid, no hydrogen are necessary. They will make the batteries work or the EV's will die. Of course they already have the right tech in the pipeline. I'll miss the sound and visceral feel, but that is easily replaced by sub-3 second 60 times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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