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1 hour ago, Palu49 said:

Tell him to tell Savage us boomers want some nice wood stock/blued options back 😂

i love a nice wood stock. i just did a Boyds laminate on my 300 winny model 70.
not sure what will go on the 7, but it may be another wood model 

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On 6/27/2023 at 5:33 PM, Tommcat said:

Is anyone here involved in long range shooting? 

I started at 1000 yards last year and im hooked. We're moving it out to 1 mile soon.

Yes since the 80s

I went through and read the thread.

At ranges what is your objective punch holes in paper and chip rocks.

Or are you looking for advice on killing at ranges.

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13 minutes ago, Forrest said:

Yes since the 80s

I went through and read the thread.

At ranges what is your objective punch holes in paper and chip rocks.

Or are you looking for advice on killing at ranges.

the current rifle is being built for steel target shooting. it will be too heavy to lug through the woods. 

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1 hour ago, Tommcat said:

the current rifle is being built for steel target shooting. it will be too heavy to lug through the woods. 

 If I'm understanding you are leaning .284 bullet likely you subscribe to vallociy _ rang and constant group and performance.

 You're wrong I used to think the same.

1. I have several .284 fire arms from 708 to 7x300

The 7x300 is used mostly hunting out to 1000 yards max. Energy and killing capacity is falling apart past 800 yards. Can you push past 1000 yes but the circumstances have effect.  Angle plus 5 or down 5 will change range per angle. 10 percent on 1000yrds is actually 900 yards. My 7x300 takes 76 click using 1/4 minutes. Wind that's based on day mountain to mountain you will drift 5 pluss feet no matter the day.

The gun is built on a Remington 700 action 30 inch hart stainless barrel pillar beaded action into laminated stock. Night force scope. I hand load the gun shoots best with 78 grain r-25 Hornady 162 a max. The 168 fly well but not as good. Gun is 16 lbs class in comp. Real world is 14 ish. Not much over any Remington sendaro 

Your 300 win mag isn't much better than 7 mm mag. Wonderful thing .30 is bc. Of bullet and wide grain availability. I have a 300 ultra mag sendaro . Load is 97 grains rutumbo either 210 burgers or 220. Vallociy is what you would expect from a factory gun. But it walks past 1200 10 shot group opens up to 16 inches on most good days it performed better once I had the action and barrel squared. Both my ultra and your 300 are falling just as fast beyond 1000 yards you 300 slightly more both are with in 10 clicks or 4.15 minutes again nightforce

Next I have a 338x378 senco action jewl trigger aluminum block Bart barrel 30 inch with brake McMillan composite stock night force scope  load is Lapua brass 114 to 116 grain of ratumbo or h570 old powder but I have 30 lbs on hand so that is the common. Tips are burger 300 grain or Hornady 285 amax. Both group the same under 1760 but the 300 past are better mountain to mountain. Average 10 shot group is 14 to 18 at 1760 though I've had under 12 on very good days. Gun was built by Bruce bear

The group mentioned vortex I have a pts 6.5x24 viper. Higher recoil guns like 30 cal. I found the scope moves. You can try tighten the inch pounds on the rings but the tube is air craft aluminum the ogive effects the scope adjustment. It performs very well on my sons 308.

Most of my past comp. Shooting was on a 6x284 very custom fire arm I've had 10 round groups in williams port under 6 inches at 1000 yrs. But the days were above average for shooting.

 

My advice  for what you are trying to do don't build less than 338. Velocity is sub 3150 with 300 grain but carried energy and consistency is head and shoulders better.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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15 hours ago, Palu49 said:

I 1000% convinced this guy was gonna go off on a creedmor tangent 

Creedmoor guys are a special bunch.

The round is really good at what it was designed for, no question. But you'd think jesus himself designed it the way they talk.

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On 7/11/2023 at 2:41 PM, Tommcat said:

Creedmoor guys are a special bunch.

The round is really good at what it was designed for, no question. But you'd think jesus himself designed it the way they talk.

Every tool has its usages.

They are renamed wild cat guns to the market of today.

30 years ago I knew guys shooting 6.5 300. Now it's packaged as something new. In reality the case neck changed.

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On 6/28/2023 at 8:38 PM, Tommcat said:

Has anyone here had any experience with carbon barrels? Specifically Proof Research?

Yes improvement on harmonic but heat and such no better imo. I'm of the opinion the throat of the barrel doesn't hold up.

The photos are faces we shoot at from my property

The only photo I have of some guns is this one right to left

7x300

338x378

300 ultra mag

50 on a bat action

 

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On 7/11/2023 at 2:41 PM, Tommcat said:

Creedmoor guys are a special bunch.

The round is really good at what it was designed for, no question. But you'd think jesus himself designed it the way they talk.

There’s a ton of rounds in that niche already that have been around for a long time too but someone said you have to have a creedmor and all these dorks went all in on it. I like to get them going on the hunting pages about how the 7-08 has been out for 5 years and is ballistically superior with a larger hole in all realistic hunting ranges (I think the creedmor starts to outshine it around 900-1000). They lose their minds

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22 minutes ago, Palu49 said:

There’s a ton of rounds in that niche already that have been around for a long time too but someone said you have to have a creedmor and all these dorks went all in on it. I like to get them going on the hunting pages about how the 7-08 has been out for 5 years and is ballistically superior with a larger hole in all realistic hunting ranges (I think the creedmor starts to outshine it around 900-1000). They lose their minds

The Creedmoor was the start of high bc for weight bullets in a factory loading.  Not a new concept in chamberings, but kinda new for box ammo.

The PRC rounds took it several steps forward, where you are shooting missiles in a saami spec, factory round.

There are still plenty of wildcats, or simply lesser known rounds that do similar things though. 280 ackley is a prime example in the Creedmoor sized round.

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3 hours ago, Palu49 said:

What’d you end up going with for a barrel?

Mcgowen 26 inch, #7 contour, 1:8 twist

when i burn this one out, it will be a heavier #8 contour and 28 long. i think i can get a hair more velocity in the 28 with the powder i'm using now

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4 hours ago, Tommcat said:

Mcgowen 26 inch, #7 contour, 1:8 twist

when i burn this one out, it will be a heavier #8 contour and 28 long. i think i can get a hair more velocity in the 28 with the powder i'm using now

Savage action right? The free floating bolt head seems to really help with their accuracy. I was talking to a savage rep at a rest stop on 90 a couple weeks back he said they just picked up 3 new machines for making their barrels and mentioned they got a new walnut supplier to bring back wood stocks. He also mentioned they had some new 26” guns coming down the pipe you should have waited a year 😂

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13 hours ago, Palu49 said:

Savage action right? The free floating bolt head seems to really help with their accuracy. I was talking to a savage rep at a rest stop on 90 a couple weeks back he said they just picked up 3 new machines for making their barrels and mentioned they got a new walnut supplier to bring back wood stocks. He also mentioned they had some new 26” guns coming down the pipe you should have waited a year 😂

yep, savage 110 blueprinted action

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