mnstang Posted February 17, 2023 Posted February 17, 2023 Just now, ZR6000RR said: It may but the TCL side, both the primary and secondary should be parallel. No, you are wrong. A TCL will keep the center to center the same at the bearing, that's it. If the angle of the shaft changes, parallel changes. That's the last time I will tell you. Quote
ZR6000RR Posted February 17, 2023 Posted February 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Crnr2Crnr said: explain to me how to blow out the primary without removing the cover or the secondary without removing it completely and disassembling it? 🤔 An air compressor. Not hard to do. I just blow out the rollers. Never had a belt blow so I am not going to change. Trade before the clutch's go bad as well. You pull the bolt on the secondary and the cover comes off on the new sleds. I have never opened up the secondary past that point. Quote
ZR6000RR Posted February 17, 2023 Posted February 17, 2023 Just now, mnstang said: No, you are wrong. A TCL will keep the center to center the same at the bearing, that's it. If the angle of the shaft changes, parallel changes. That's the last time I will tell you. what ever. I am not going to worry about it. Quote
mnstang Posted February 17, 2023 Posted February 17, 2023 1 minute ago, ZR6000RR said: what ever. I am not going to worry about it. I don't think you should and I'm not saying I'm worrying about it either. Quote
Crnr2Crnr Posted February 17, 2023 Posted February 17, 2023 45 minutes ago, ZR6000RR said: An air compressor. Not hard to do. I just blow out the rollers. Never had a belt blow so I am not going to change. Trade before the clutch's go bad as well. You pull the bolt on the secondary and the cover comes off on the new sleds. I have never opened up the secondary past that point. so you don't remove the secondary, remove the helix and clean it out? how do you clean the sheaves? Quote
ZR6000RR Posted February 17, 2023 Posted February 17, 2023 31 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said: so you don't remove the secondary, remove the helix and clean it out? how do you clean the sheaves? Just the sheaves. Again, the outer sheaves comes off with the removal of the secondary bolt. Rub them down with acetone if needed. Quote
Crnr2Crnr Posted February 17, 2023 Posted February 17, 2023 7 minutes ago, ZR6000RR said: Just the sheaves. Again, the outer sheaves comes off with the removal of the secondary bolt. Rub them down with acetone if needed. this fella must be doing it wrong and wasting time and energy. maybe you should make a video? Quote
p51mstg Posted February 17, 2023 Author Posted February 17, 2023 (edited) Digit9 isn't wrong, I like his videos. The newer Team BOSS secondary splits in half when you unbolt it. It comes off the jackshaft in two pieces. Mountain Sledder Garage has done a couple of videos on the Adapt clutch, the differences with past Cat clutches and how to upgrade a Team primary to the Adapt. In that last video, he shows how to shim the secondary to get the alignment right, and you can see how it comes apart. Before I do anything to my 21, however, I always put on the foil. Edited February 17, 2023 by p51mstg 1 1 Quote
Crnr2Crnr Posted February 17, 2023 Posted February 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, p51mstg said: Digit9 isn't wrong, I like his videos. are you sure? Quote
ZR6000RR Posted February 17, 2023 Posted February 17, 2023 39 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said: this fella must be doing it wrong and wasting time and energy. maybe you should make a video? Nah! I would just pay my dealer if I needed to go any further. Not going to buy the tools since I am only a mile from him. Quote
p51mstg Posted February 17, 2023 Author Posted February 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said: are you sure? Not really... Quote
Crnr2Crnr Posted February 17, 2023 Posted February 17, 2023 8 minutes ago, ZR6000RR said: Nah! I would just pay my dealer if I needed to go any further. Not going to buy the tools since I am only a mile from him. so you aren't actually 'cleaning' them, just blowing belt dust all over the place? the tools aren't expensive, and it's a relaxing task while having an adult beverage. it also helps your sleds efficiency and power delivery if you go over 1/2 throttle. Quote
USA Donating Member Deephaven Posted February 17, 2023 USA Donating Member Posted February 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Crnr2Crnr said: ....if you go over 1/2 throttle. We already determined he doesn't. He should just be ordering a snoscoot. Would be a more logical fit. 1 Quote
ZR6000RR Posted February 17, 2023 Posted February 17, 2023 2 hours ago, Crnr2Crnr said: so you aren't actually 'cleaning' them, just blowing belt dust all over the place? the tools aren't expensive, and it's a relaxing task while having an adult beverage. it also helps your sleds efficiency and power delivery if you go over 1/2 throttle. As long as it hits 8150 on top, I am not going to worry about it. So far all my sleds have no issue with. Quote
Crnr2Crnr Posted February 17, 2023 Posted February 17, 2023 1 hour ago, ZR6000RR said: As long as it hits 8150 on top, I am not going to worry about it. So far all my sleds have no issue with. good point, save the problems for the next guy. Quote
ZR6000RR Posted February 18, 2023 Posted February 18, 2023 3 hours ago, Crnr2Crnr said: good point, save the problems for the next guy. Next guy won't have any issues. Will get my 22 with a year of warranty. Pretty much already sold. Will almost pay for my Catalyst. Quote
USA Donating Member Deephaven Posted February 18, 2023 USA Donating Member Posted February 18, 2023 You ripping off your brother again? 2 Quote
mnstang Posted February 18, 2023 Posted February 18, 2023 Who gives a fuck if one guy on the internet fully cleans his clutches every season. You guys are so obsessed with him it's like the TDS people. Do you guys interview and judge every rider on the trail with their maintenance habits? 1 Quote
racinfarmer Posted February 18, 2023 Posted February 18, 2023 6 hours ago, mnstang said: Who gives a fuck if one guy on the internet fully cleans his clutches every season. You guys are so obsessed with him it's like the TDS people. Do you guys interview and judge every rider on the trail with their maintenance habits? Yes. What kind of weirdo doesn't? 2 2 Quote
Crnr2Crnr Posted February 18, 2023 Posted February 18, 2023 seems like there was some good information provided to optimize arctic cat snowmobile performance... Quote
mnstang Posted February 18, 2023 Posted February 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Crnr2Crnr said: seems like there was some good information provided to optimize arctic cat snowmobile performance... Honestly that video guy was trying but alot of it was vanity. You do need to use compressed air on the spider rollers and button slide areas, that's probably the number one thing to do to maintain and save a clutch and the AC performance manual has said this also. Something you ridiculed him for. Not to get into a clutch cleaning debate because I don't care how you maintain your junk I just assume it's not as good as me and I don't make fun of you about it. Quote
Crnr2Crnr Posted February 18, 2023 Posted February 18, 2023 1 hour ago, mnstang said: Honestly that video guy was trying but alot of it was vanity. You do need to use compressed air on the spider rollers and button slide areas, that's probably the number one thing to do to maintain and save a clutch and the AC performance manual has said this also. Something you ridiculed him for. Not to get into a clutch cleaning debate because I don't care how you maintain your junk I just assume it's not as good as me and I don't make fun of you about it. of course I blow things out, clean and blow everything out again... don't get your undies in a twist Quote
Crnr2Crnr Posted February 18, 2023 Posted February 18, 2023 On 2/15/2023 at 4:47 PM, p51mstg said: Troy's remarks are very good, too: thank goodness they didn't have Heidi there with her ipad... 1 1 Quote
Crnr2Crnr Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 (edited) sounds like this guy needs to clean his clutches a bit more often... 4300 miles? https://www.facebook.com/groups/832855321418501/permalink/944428110261221/ Edited February 19, 2023 by Crnr2Crnr Quote
USA Donating Member Deephaven Posted February 19, 2023 USA Donating Member Posted February 19, 2023 24 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said: sounds like this guy needs to clean his clutches a bit more often... 4300 miles? https://www.facebook.com/groups/832855321418501/permalink/944428110261221/ Jimwits brother has something to look forward to when his fail due to lack of maintenance. Quote
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