Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted September 21, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 21, 2022 https://www.drive.com.au/news/suvs-utes-over-evs-australian-emissions-results/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Rigid1 Posted September 21, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 21, 2022 I guess if you think freedom of choice is bad and believe EV's are going to save the planet from million year old planetary cycles like a complete idiot some of those types would think it "isn't good" 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted September 21, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 21, 2022 (edited) Rural America cars are dead. Very few daily drivers people bought in the last 10 years are cars. Its amazing how few "new" cars you see on the road. Notice how automakers are all ending ICE cars....well they don't sell that many anyway so is it that significant of move to EV's? The %'s will grow significantly with the push to all EV cars. At least for another 5-10 years. According to information provided by JATO Dynamics, SUVs and pickups recorded a new record market share in the first four months of 2022, combining for 72.9 percent of total passenger car sales between January and April. By the numbers, it is 3.32 million units out of a total of 4.56 million. Of the two segments, SUVs are the dominant force by a wide margin, accounting for 53.5 percent of the share to 19.4 percent for trucks. https://www.motor1.com/news/587230/suvs-still-rule-us-market/ Edited September 21, 2022 by Highmark 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gravy davey Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 12 minutes ago, Highmark said: Rural America cars are dead. Very few daily drivers people bought in the last 10 years are cars. Its amazing how few "new" cars you see on the road. Mostly the same around here probably 80% trucks/suv’s 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member EvilBird Posted September 21, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted September 21, 2022 It didnt help some Cars became too small in the 90s , same time more SUVs and later crossovers came out. Their quest for more fuel efficient Cars back then didn't work as planned either. Small fuel efficient or EV cars dont work for active families. Never has. Bring back some Land yachts! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted September 21, 2022 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, EvilBird said: It didnt help some Cars became too small in the 90s , same time more SUVs and later crossovers came out. Their quest for more fuel efficient Cars back then didn't work as planned either. Small fuel efficient or EV cars dont work for active families. Never has. Bring back some Land yachts! If anything the EVs are perfect for active families. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member EvilBird Posted September 21, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted September 21, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, Steve753 said: If anything the EVs are perfect for active families. How many kids you got Steven ? Edited September 21, 2022 by EvilBird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted September 21, 2022 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 21, 2022 Just now, EvilBird said: How many kids you got Steven ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member EvilBird Posted September 21, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted September 21, 2022 Just now, Steve753 said: 2 What is your family vehicle ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted September 21, 2022 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 21, 2022 Just now, EvilBird said: What is your family vehicle ? My kids are grown. My wife's always had SUVs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member EvilBird Posted September 21, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted September 21, 2022 Just now, Steve753 said: My kids are grown. My wife's always had SUVs Exactly. When they build a SUV that can haul the family , boat and Sleds like my Gasser ill be in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted September 21, 2022 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 21, 2022 1 minute ago, EvilBird said: Exactly. When they build a SUV that can haul the family , boat and Sleds like my Gasser ill be in. You're not everyone though. You seem to always forget that. My wife never travels more than 50 miles a day. Lucky if she did 100 a day when the kids were around. An EV would've been perfect. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member EvilBird Posted September 21, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted September 21, 2022 Just now, Steve753 said: You're not everyone though. You seem to always forget that. My wife never travels more than 50 miles a day. Lucky if she did 100 a day when the kids were around. An EV would've been perfect. Well apparently im closer to everyone than you think according to the article you posted ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted September 21, 2022 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 21, 2022 Just now, EvilBird said: Well apparently im closer to everyone than you think according to the article you posted ! If EVs were alot cheaper. Alot more people would have them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deephaven Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 If the Tesla's weren't pieces of shit our second car would be an EV. Most of our running around is to sporting events, school, etc. Obviously a long distance and towing vehicle we need as well, but the day to day would be perfect with an EV. Of course, the draw on the EV for me has nothing to do with green and everything to do with GO. While I'd miss the gorgeous burble and pops of my V8T, the stealth acceleration and rawness of electric is super fun. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleepybrew Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 1 minute ago, Steve753 said: If EVs were alot cheaper. Alot more people would have them. unfortunately they seem to be climbing. the rivian was supposed to be 60k or so and it's climbing. we have the bullshit hummer coming, 116k, and just massive. i know people talk about battery battery battery , but there is a whole lot more there than batteries. tons of modules, controllers, screens, etc and based on the current vehicles it is going to be a problem. just replaced a lane keep camera in pickup, camera alone is 600.00. and with it failed the cruise doesn't work. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted September 21, 2022 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 21, 2022 1 minute ago, sleepybrew said: unfortunately they seem to be climbing. the rivian was supposed to be 60k or so and it's climbing. we have the bullshit hummer coming, 116k, and just massive. i know people talk about battery battery battery , but there is a whole lot more there than batteries. tons of modules, controllers, screens, etc and based on the current vehicles it is going to be a problem. just replaced a lane keep camera in pickup, camera alone is 600.00. and with it failed the cruise doesn't work. Hopefully they get it all figured out eventually. It's to early for me personally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleepybrew Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, Steve753 said: Hopefully they get it all figured out eventually. It's to early for me personally. we fight wiring issues constantly. broken shit for no reason. you lose comm with anything in the vehicle and it freaks out. we are not looking forward to it. we had to buy a forklift for batteries, special lift arms, a charger inside for us and an outside one for customers. none of it cheap. ford just gave the choice, in or out. in will will be over a million to comply. takes a lot of vehicles to net a million 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted September 21, 2022 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 21, 2022 1 minute ago, sleepybrew said: we fight wiring issues constantly. broken shit for no reason. you lose comm with anything in the vehicle and it freaks out. we are not looking forward to it. we had to buy a forklift for batteries, special lift arms, a charger inside for us and an outside one for customers. none of it cheap. ford just gave the choice, in or out. in will will be over a million to comply. takes a lot of vehicles to net a million Well you've got to start somewhere I guess. It's definitely the wave of the future it seems whether we like it or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleepybrew Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 11 minutes ago, Steve753 said: Well you've got to start somewhere I guess. It's definitely the wave of the future it seems whether we like it or not. i feel they will drag all the shortcomings of the current stuff right in to the evs. and that part sucks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deephaven Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 Only one I trust right now is the Porsche Taycan/Audi E-tron GT. Once the rest catchup, it will be more exciting as a consumer. Now it is just embarrassing how bad most of the options are. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 5 minutes ago, Deephaven said: Only one I trust right now is the Porsche Taycan/Audi E-tron GT. Once the rest catchup, it will be more exciting as a consumer. Now it is just embarrassing how bad most of the options are. agree, but the price for the model I would like... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deephaven Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 52 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said: agree, but the price for the model I would like... Exactly why I don't have one....yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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