Mainecat Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Mark Cuban's Healthcare Fix: We Need a Single-Payer System I like it... http://blogmaverick.com/2017/03/08/some-thoughts-on-fixing-obamacare-shoot-holes-in-this-please/ Whether it's Medicaid or a new program, every single person in this country should be covered 100% for chronic physical or mental illness and for any life-threatening injury. The premiums that we are paying to insurance companies as individuals or as company coverage for these significant risks would go from the insurance companies to the IRS. Only the cost of covering what's left would continue being paid to the insurance companies. It would not be hard to do the math. Every insurance company does this analysis already. The government does this analysis already. We all would end up paying more in taxes, but less in insurance and healthcare costs over time. There would be no mandates. There would be no individual penalties. No tax credits. No subsidies. No offsets or deductions for buying higher end insurance. This will be single payer (yes, I know it's a dirty phrase in this country) for chronic physical or mental illness and for any life threatening injury. Everything not covered by the above can be covered by insurance sold on the free market, managed by the states, sold across state lines, without government interference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKIQPilot Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 He is right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 No shit sherlock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oleroule Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 change the constitution. good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 We don't need to change the Constitution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted March 10, 2017 Author Share Posted March 10, 2017 It's what Obama wanted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEFF Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 2 minutes ago, Mainecat said: It's what Obama wanted. I guess he should have put that forward instead of the abortion he crammed down our throats. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 2 hours ago, motonoggin said: We don't need to change the Constitution. of course we do our resident FS constitutional scholars have chimed in. And cuban is spot on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sal Rosenberg Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 I hate that faggot but he's right on this one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayward Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 (edited) I don't like him either, but i'm willing to look past it and admit I like his idear. But I have one question. What do we do with those who refuse to have insurance? Or am I having a senior moment here and not understanding it all? Edited March 10, 2017 by hayward Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Just now, hayward said: I like this idea. But I have one question. What do we do with those who refuse to have insurance? Or am I having a senior moment here and not understanding it all? they have catestrophic through the feds which is all they really need. Basic doc visits should not be covered under insurance IMO it's reg maint just like a car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayward Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 1 minute ago, Angry ginger said: they have catestrophic through the feds which is all they really need. Basic doc visits should not be covered under insurance IMO it's reg maint just like a car. So we're all cool now with gov't involvement? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 3 minutes ago, hayward said: I don't like him either, but i'm willing to look past it and admit I like his idear. But I have one question. What do we do with those who refuse to have insurance? Or am I having a senior moment here and not understanding it all? Basic HC should be covered for everyone without any insurance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Just now, hayward said: So we're all cool now with gov't involvement? You guys are paying like three times more than other countries with government involvement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted March 10, 2017 Author Share Posted March 10, 2017 25 minutes ago, JEFF said: I guess he should have put that forward instead of the abortion he crammed down our throats. He did. What you got was the republicancorporate America version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEFF Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 8 minutes ago, Mainecat said: He did. What you got was the republicancorporate America version. Didn't the dems hold the majority in the house and senate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayward Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 30 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: You guys are paying like three times more than other countries with government involvement. Yeh but that's their gov't, not ours. It's of no secret, there is of little faith left here....Bunch of galdarned crooks and scammers I tell ya! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepr2 Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 27 minutes ago, JEFF said: Didn't the dems hold the majority in the house and senate? And the Liar backs himself into a corner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 4 hours ago, Mainecat said: dMark Cuban's Healthcare Fix: We Need a Single-Payer System I like it... http://blogmaverick.com/2017/03/08/some-thoughts-on-fixing-obamacare-shoot-holes-in-this-please/ Whether it's Medicaid or a new program, every single person in this country should be covered 100% for chronic physical or mental illness and for any life-threatening injury. The premiums that we are paying to insurance companies as individuals or as company coverage for these significant risks would go from the insurance companies to the IRS. Only the cost of covering what's left would continue being paid to the insurance companies. It would not be hard to do the math. Every insurance company does this analysis already. The government does this analysis already. We all would end up paying more in taxes, but less in insurance and healthcare costs over time. There would be no mandates. There would be no individual penalties. No tax credits. No subsidies. No offsets or deductions for buying higher end insurance. This will be single payer (yes, I know it's a dirty phrase in this country) for chronic physical or mental illness and for any life threatening injury. Everything not covered by the above can be covered by insurance sold on the free market, managed by the states, sold across state lines, without government interference. so do u think Mark Cuban would be using this system he wants ? or do u think he would be in a privet circle patients under the care of a staff of experts? do as I say I want not as I do. he is a brilliant man though just look at his election predictions LMFAO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 47 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: Basic HC should be covered for everyone without any insurance. why? are oil changes covered for every one? do u know I can no longer negotiate a cash deal with my doctor like I did before the ACA . I always had a higher deductible and a chunk of cash in health savings . I would pay on the spot in cash and get form 15 to 30% off. now if U have insurance they by law have to run it through your insurance even when they and u know it will not be covered. U can tell just with the paper work involved the government was involved it that bull shit . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 48 minutes ago, Mainecat said: He did. What you got was the republicancorporate America version. no he did not . he got all he wanted how he wanted it . where do u get this nonsense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Capitalists getting all socialist all of a sudden. Wonder why... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 32 minutes ago, motonoggin said: Capitalists getting all socialist all of a sudden. Wonder why... because once a entitlement is created hogs don't want to pull away from the trough . pull the band aid now let the sting burn and move on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 4 minutes ago, Ez ryder said: because once a entitlement is created hogs don't want to pull away from the trough . pull the band aid now let the sting burn and move on This is similar to the calls for UBI. Guillotine insurance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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