Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted March 8, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 8, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, motonoggin said: Which is why blaming fat poors is fucking stupid. Like people don't have choices of what to eat and how much to exercise. I'm not in the shape I was 15 years ago but I'll be damned if I'm going to blame anyone but myself. Edited March 8, 2017 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 3 hours ago, Highmark said: Its a big part of it. Question is do we want to force doctors, nurses, lab tech and everyone else in the medical industry they are going to have to take a pay cut. Dude if you are on medicare or have really good insurance they are going to bill everything they can on you. Whether you really need it or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 Just now, Highmark said: Like people don't have choices of what to eat and how much to exercise. When the entire food supply is polluted with health altering shit they're allowed to keep a secret, it's kinda hard to make informed choices. What ever happened to the idea that a free market requires an informed consumer? Oh yeah, that's right, it's advantageous and legal to keep harmful shit a secret. Good for profits, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 13 minutes ago, motonoggin said: When the entire food supply is polluted with health altering shit they're allowed to keep a secret, it's kinda hard to make informed choices. What ever happened to the idea that a free market requires an informed consumer? Oh yeah, that's right, it's advantageous and legal to keep harmful shit a secret. Good for profits, too. It's your fault for eating you stupid liberal! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 1 minute ago, Anler said: It's your fault for eating you stupid liberal! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 Producer lobbies legislators and manipulates regulators to use ingredients with known adverse health effects in product. Preferably without the need to disclose to the consumer. Republicans: Blame consumer for eating it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 Thats how the free market works! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold War Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 And yet millions of Americans eat everyday and are not obese. Go figure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 16 minutes ago, Cold War said: And yet millions of Americans eat everyday and are not obese. Go figure. Better genes? I know tons of people that eat like horses, don't exercise, and never gain an ounce. But that's not really the point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 30 minutes ago, Cold War said: And yet millions of Americans eat everyday and are not obese. Go figure. Doesn't mean they don't get sick. You can be skinny and still have diabetes, thyroid issues, digestive issues, cancer, heart condition, hypertension, etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold War Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 22 minutes ago, motonoggin said: Better genes? I know tons of people that eat like horses, don't exercise, and never gain an ounce. But that's not really the point 8 minutes ago, Anler said: Doesn't mean they don't get sick. You can be skinny and still have diabetes, thyroid issues, digestive issues, cancer, heart condition, hypertension, etc... I don't disagree on genes playing a big part or lots of shit food , but the information is out there and you can dramatically increase your odds if you are not lucky enough to have good genes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted March 8, 2017 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 8, 2017 5 minutes ago, Cold War said: I don't disagree on genes playing a big part or lots of shit food , but the information is out there and you can dramatically increase your odds if you are not lucky enough to have good genes. Well sure but when money is tight not everybody can pay double for organic bullshit free chicken breast. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 1 minute ago, Cold War said: I don't disagree on genes playing a big part or lots of shit food , but the information is out there and you can dramatically increase your odds if you are not lucky enough to have good genes. The best diet is a raw food diet. It has the most health benefits. Eating meat in moderation. However GMOs are not required to disclose or minimal disclosure. Most GMOs need round up or other pesticides/herbicides to fully mature. It's part of the patent. Just know that you are cool eating that without them having to tell you. And watch some of those videos on how our meat is raised. Pretty fucking gross. Hormones, antibiotics, salmonella, ecoli, in disgusting conditions. Also genetically modified species are coming to play. And not for healthier options... How about we quit blaming each other for being fat and sick and blame the mother fuckers who are doing it to us? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 7 minutes ago, Cold War said: I don't disagree on genes playing a big part or lots of shit food , but the information is out there and you can dramatically increase your odds if you are not lucky enough to have good genes. The information is not out there, that's the point. And why should I have to be a fucking food research scientist in order to not be fucking poisoned by the food I eat? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold War Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 Saw my buddy with his granddaughter at the store. Little girl was around 8 weighing a 150. You don't get that big eating normally. Child abuse if you ask me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 23 hours ago, Highmark said: Like people don't have choices of what to eat and how much to exercise. I'm not in the shape I was 15 years ago but I'll be damned if I'm going to blame anyone but myself. Should everyone stop eating wheat? Quote Wheat harvest protocol in the United States is to drench the wheat fields with Roundup several days before the combine harvesters work through the fields as withered, dead wheat plants are less taxing on the farm equipment and allows for an earlier, easier and bigger harvest Pre-harvest application of the herbicide Roundup or other herbicides containing the deadly active ingredient glyphosate to wheat and barley as a desiccant was suggested as early as 1980. It has since become routine over the past 15 years and is used as a drying agent 7-10 days before harvest within the conventional farming community. According to Dr. Stephanie Seneff of MIT who has studied the issue in depth and who I recently saw present on the subject at a nutritional Conference in Indianapolis, desiccating non-organic wheat crops with glyphosate just before harvest came into vogue late in the 1990′s with the result that most of the non-organic wheat in the United States is now contaminated with it. Seneff explains that when you expose wheat to a toxic chemical like glyphosate, it actually releases more seeds resulting in a slightly greater yield: “It ‘goes to seed’ as it dies. At its last gasp, it releases the seed” says Dr. Seneff. According to the US Department of Agriculture, as of 2012, 99% of durum wheat, 97% of spring wheat, and 61% of winter wheat has been treated with herbicides. This is an increase from 88% for durum wheat, 91% for spring wheat and 47% for winter wheat since 1998. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold War Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 1 hour ago, Anler said: Should everyone stop eating wheat? Going on two weeks, I'll let you know how it works out. So far, I can say a lot of the digestive problems I was having have gone away. Is it going to cure my massive inflammation , high cholesterol, arthritis, remains to be seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted March 9, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 9, 2017 (edited) Reality is Obamacare is failing. Any refusal to admit it is being obtuse. Edited March 9, 2017 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 6 minutes ago, Highmark said: Reality is Obamacare is failing. Any refusal to admit it is being obtuse. Well, no shit. We need single payer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Highmark said: Reality is Obamacare is failing. Any refusal to admit it is being obtuse. it did give millions of people healthcare that never had it before. they discovered improvement in quality of life. that's huge politically. the GOP won't be able to erase it. Edited March 9, 2017 by spin_dry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 14 minutes ago, spin_dry said: it did give millions of people healthcare that never had it before. they discovered improvement in quality of life. that's huge politically. the GOP won't be able to erase it. What was the churn and turnover rate of those signing up for the first time? What percentage never paid a dime while getting services or cancelled immediately afterwords? Or here's the fun part...what young healthy percentage that were supposed to offset all the "sickies" said, "fuck it! I'll just pay the $25 fine at tax time"? It was a start but an epically bad plan in no small part because of our highly trained "entitlement population". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 1 minute ago, Zambroski said: What was the churn and turnover rate of those signing up for the first time? What percentage never paid a dime while getting services or cancelled immediately afterwords? Or here's the fun part...what young healthy percentage that were supposed to offset all the "sickies" said, "fuck it! I'll just pay the $25 fine at tax time"? It was a start but an epically bad plan in no small part because of our highly trained "entitlement population". speaking of entitlement, you have been the #1 complainer about the cost of healthcare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 3 minutes ago, spin_dry said: speaking of entitlement, you have been the #1 complainer about the cost of healthcare. How is that "entitlement"? I think my cost/benefit ratio is fucked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayward Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 On 3/8/2017 at 6:42 PM, Biggie Smails said: Well sure but when money is tight not everybody can pay double for organic bullshit free chicken breast. Where's the science that proves organic bullshit free chicken breast is any better for you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 On 3/8/2017 at 5:22 PM, Anler said: Doesn't mean they don't get sick. You can be skinny and still have diabetes, thyroid issues, digestive issues, cancer, heart condition, hypertension, etc... and u can have all that shit living on the family farm only eating what u grow and raise . are u saying those things don't exist in Amish community's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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