Tommcat 625 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 i have a customers sled in with a bad ecu and have a question on calibrations. 2008 IQ600 with the CFI 600, 4 injector. In looking for a used ecu, do i need to match the exact ecu part number on the top, or am i ok just matching the side part number along with the injector color? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Frostynuts 500 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 There is a guy out there by the name of Rick that is a Poolaris expert. Do you want me to get you his cuntact number ? LOL 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Crnr2Crnr 1,326 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 Idk 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tommcat 625 Posted January 14 Author Share Posted January 14 Anyone? Bueller? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
XCR INDY 128 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 Not sure what happened to your ecu, but I had an 09 600 and the voltage regulator failed and fried the ecu. Polaris did have a service bulletin on them back in the day. Not sure if it pertained to the 08, but something to consider. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tommcat 625 Posted January 14 Author Share Posted January 14 48 minutes ago, XCR INDY said: Not sure what happened to your ecu, but I had an 09 600 and the voltage regulator failed and fried the ecu. Polaris did have a service bulletin on them back in the day. Not sure if it pertained to the 08, but something to consider. It's a bad injector driver, mag side full load injector, non repairable. Just needs an ecu, but new is both expensive and currently unavailable. Used is my only good option, but im just not clear if i need this specific calibration, or if any "yellow" injector ecu will work Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nanner 93 Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 2 hours ago, Tommcat said: It's a bad injector driver, mag side full load injector, non repairable. Just needs an ecu, but new is both expensive and currently unavailable. Used is my only good option, but im just not clear if i need this specific calibration, or if any "yellow" injector ecu will work Injectors are going to have to match but I also think you will need engine size specific. Can’t imagine a 600 having the same mapping as a 800. I do know when you order a new ecu it needs to be programmed at the dealer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
teamgreen02 1,553 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 21 hours ago, Tommcat said: It's a bad injector driver, mag side full load injector, non repairable. Just needs an ecu, but new is both expensive and currently unavailable. Used is my only good option, but im just not clear if i need this specific calibration, or if any "yellow" injector ecu will work Just sent this out to a few Polaris faithful that will try to answer your question. Basically, you need the 600 ECU with the same color as your injectors. Or buy an ECU and have reprogrammed at a dealer. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
D-rail 39 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 I wrestled with this silly cfi-4 for some weeks on end trying to map out a 660. I brought a used 800 ecu to a dealer and for $35, they reprogrammed it to fit a 600, then I had to fiddle fuck around with a power commander to try and dial it in. Nobody had the right calibrations for a 660. I'd say, if it's stock, just run it as is, with a 600 calibration. It is a LOT of screwing around with the power commander for the end results. I used an AF gauge, dozens of different maps, brought my laptop with me to the long starightaways to change settings, and talked with several dyno guys about these. Never got it to run longer than ten seconds at WFO before it started running lean, and I tried adding lots of fuel there. Top to bottom brand new engine. Tried different injectors, harnesses, pumps, filters, sensors, two different power commanders... horrible design. Dozens of quarter mile runs trying to get it working. I ran it for almost a year, but last time it seized, I yanked out the engine, and it's sitting under my bench for over five years untouched. Best is to match the injector colours to the ecu, like has been said. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
X2700 190 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Per service manual. reprogram to sled. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Doug 695 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Just got home from riding. I know back in 2009 we have a 08 700 with a bad ECU and took the ECU off a wrecked 07 600 and refreshed it with the Polaris digital wrench for a 700. If I remember correctly there's a series of basic questions such as motor and injector colors you had to answer before you could reflash it. I'll dig around to see if I have some notes yet tomorrow. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Doug 695 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Tommy dug up some notes but not sure if this is going to answer your question as I used the Polaris digital wrench which would actually pull the reflash from the Polaris dealer portal. If its a new ECU you need to initialize it which copies the model ID from the original ECU before it can be flashed. When we took the used one from the crashed sled there is a section where you can "Change vehicle type". With in this section you then select the model which will then bring up a list of the injector colors and the latest reflash for each with an associated P/n for the correct flash. You then select that continue on with authorization code from the dealer portal to continue on. It's been a while so I can't remember looking at the p/n's your reference on the top and side. The 600, 700, 800 motors did use the same ECU with difference flashes. If you can find the same model 600 with the same injector color it should work. I think 2009 or 2010 was the last year they used the 4 injector setup. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tommcat 625 Posted January 17 Author Share Posted January 17 Is digital wrench available to non dealers? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nanner 93 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 3 minutes ago, Tommcat said: Is digital wrench available to non dealers? Nope. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Doug 695 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 7 minutes ago, Tommcat said: Is digital wrench available to non dealers? Nope Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Doug 695 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 10 hours ago, Tommcat said: Is digital wrench available to non dealers? What color injectors does it have? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tommcat 625 Posted January 17 Author Share Posted January 17 4 hours ago, Doug said: What color injectors does it have? yellow Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Doug 695 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 1 hour ago, Tommcat said: yellow I would dig around and find a used CDI box for any 2007 and newer IQ chassis 600 with yellow injectors. They're either going to be yellow, blue or red. I know the local guy by us that salvages sleds, water craft and ATV's is real organized and when he pulls sleds apart he labels organizes all parts well. He may have one. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tommcat 625 Posted Tuesday at 12:16 PM Author Share Posted Tuesday at 12:16 PM 17 hours ago, Doug said: I would dig around and find a used CDI box for any 2007 and newer IQ chassis 600 with yellow injectors. They're either going to be yellow, blue or red. I know the local guy by us that salvages sleds, water craft and ATV's is real organized and when he pulls sleds apart he labels organizes all parts well. He may have one. Does it need to have the same ecu part number from the side? Or just has to be a yellow ecu? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Doug 695 Posted Tuesday at 01:45 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 01:45 PM 1 hour ago, Tommcat said: Does it need to have the same ecu part number from the side? Or just has to be a yellow ecu? Can't remember the side number and its significant. The 600, 700, 800 use the same ECU with different tunes. Needs to be from a 2007 and newer IQ chassis 600 with yellow injectors. If you get one from a 700 or 800 it will have a different tune in it and won't work right. A 600 in a Pro chassis 2010 and new is a 2 injector motor and different ECU. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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