So Global Warming? Or not?

[01mxz800]

On 8/6/2021 at 10:18 AM, Highmark said:

 

 

used to love watchin "In Search Of"

[Highmark]

22 hours ago, jtssrx said:

The ISS lmao. You are gullible 

That's rich coming from a flat earther. 

[jtssrx]

4 minutes ago, Highmark said:

That's rich coming from a flat earther. 

Using the scientific method prove Gravity, axial  rotation, and curvature. 
 

please provide photographs of the ISS being built, provide evidence of each mission of all the pieces being sent to low earth orbit 

Edited August 7, 2021 by jtssrx

[jdsky]

1 hour ago, jtssrx said:

Using the scientific method prove Gravity, axial  rotation, and curvature. 
 

please provide photographs of the ISS being built, provide evidence of each mission of all the pieces being sent to low earth orbit 

Where's that working model JT.  

[Rod]

On 8/5/2021 at 6:31 PM, Edmo said:

Sounds like more fear mongering to me. Why is the sky always falling in these studies? Hmmmm.

There’s lots of funding available for the climate fear cult. And to get their studies published the cult is getting more and more extreme. Like click bait. 

[jtssrx]

On 8/7/2021 at 8:55 PM, jdsky said:

Where's that working model JT.  

You provide first. The heliocentric model doesn’t work it’s hilarious to me that you don’t get that. 

[Highmark]

On 8/7/2021 at 6:03 PM, jtssrx said:

Using the scientific method prove Gravity, axial  rotation, and curvature. 
 

please provide photographs of the ISS being built, provide evidence of each mission of all the pieces being sent to low earth orbit 

Dude you would just deny the pictures are real.   Who are you kidding.   Also not exactly easy getting pictures up there.  

You know with a very strong pair of binoculars you can see the ISS with your own eyes.

Edited August 9, 2021 by Highmark

[jdsky]

2 hours ago, jtssrx said:

You provide first. 

Sorry but no.  It's up to the flat earth pseudoscience believing cultists to produce a working model.  Pick one that the cultists will all get behind.  

[jtssrx]

1 hour ago, Highmark said:

Dude you would just deny the pictures are real.   Who are you kidding.   Also not exactly easy getting pictures up there.  

You know with a very strong pair of binoculars you can see the ISS with your own eyes.

You can’t produce them

[jtssrx]

1 hour ago, jdsky said:

Sorry but no.  It's up to the flat earth pseudoscience believing cultists to produce a working model.  Pick one that the cultists will all get behind.  

In order to prove the globe And the heliocentric model you  have to prove gravity axial rotation and curvature. Ill wait 

[XCR1250]

7 minutes ago, jtssrx said:

In order to prove the globe And the heliocentric model you  have to prove gravity axial rotation and curvature. Ill wait 

Want Astronaut Jeff Williams phone number?

[XCR1250]

https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/images/90008/night-light-maps-open-up-new-applications

[irv]

And, here we go again, just like the CNN reporter said on hidden camera that global warming narrative would be ramped up. Haven't they been saying this for 30 yrs or so now? 

UN sounds 'deafening' warning on climate change.

But yet, the article still reads this? Wonder what the cause of that was 3 million years ago? Could it be that the earth/climate is always changing and always will?? 

"The Earth has not been that warm since the Pliocene Epoch roughly 3 million years ago — when humanity’s first ancestors were appearing, and the oceans were 25 meters (82 feet) higher than they are today".

https://www.torontosun.com/news/world/un-sounds-deafening-warning-on-climate-change

 

Edited August 9, 2021 by irv

[XCR1250]

Al Gore where are you?? He predicted we'd all be dead soon, what a typical Liberal liar he is.

 

In 2006, six years after his presidential bid, Al Gore launched the documentary An Inconvenient Truth. The movie made headlines around the world, raising awareness of global warming and its predicted dire consequences for the planet and society.

The movie did more than this, though, as it also politicized global warming to an unprecedented level. It brought the spotlight to an issue that, as the title says, many investors and politicians find inconvenient. If nothing is done to curb the emissions of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases, temperatures will rise, ice caps will melt, ocean levels will rise and weather patterns across the globe will be disrupted. This truth remains unchanged.

An article in Science News by Thomas Sumner does an excellent job summarizing what we've learned since the release of the movie, which predictions panned out and what was off the mark. Lonnie Thomson, the climate scientist whose studies of melting glaciers in the high Andes were featured in the documentary, says: "The physics and chemistry that we've known about for over 200 years is bearing out. We've learned so much in the last 10 years, but the fact that the unprecedented climate change of the last 40 years is being driven by increased carbon dioxide hasn't changed."

 

Here's a summary of other parts of the piece:

Hurricanes: In 2006, it was predicted that their frequency and intensity would increase owing to the warming of oceans. Hurricane frequency has dropped a bit, and their intensities haven't changed much. At least not yet. However, a study published in 2010 in Science predicts that the number of Category 4 and 5 hurricanes (that's Katrina-level) could nearly double by 2100, even if their overall number doesn't increase. As seas rise, hurricanes will be able to travel closer to inland, increasing the damage.

Ocean circulation: An important prediction in 2006 was that the ice melting from the polar regions would flood the North Atlantic with fresh water, interrupting the warm water flow from the tropics toward Western Europe. This shutdown scenario is now in doubt, although there is a gradual slowing down of ocean currents that will impact the climates along the Atlantic. Recent studies show that this slowing down is unprecedented in the past 1,000 years, but it's still too early to tell whether this is part of a long-term trend.

Drought, climate and conflict: Although there is an inherent danger in equating climate change with political unrest, the period between 1998 and 2012 has been the driest in the Eastern Mediterranean since 1100. When people are hungry and thirsty, they move in search of food and water. Severe droughts upset food-production and distribution, trigger mass migrations to urban areas, and may cause civil unrest and refugee crises. Some experts have partially blamed the drought in Darfur for the war there in 2003 and, now, the Syrian civil war. As periods of drought intensify in parts of Africa, food shortages could lead to renewed conflict there. Closer to home, the period between 2011 and 2014 was the driest in California since record keeping began in 1895. Desalination is an option, but it remains cost-ineffective for now.

 

Arctic and Antarctic ice: Here, predictions got even worse, unfortunately. In 2006, the prediction was that the Arctic could see its first sea-ice-free summer in the next 50 to 70 years. Now, the prediction is that summer sea ice may disappear by 2052. That's about nine years sooner than the older prediction. As ice melts, dark oceans absorb more heat, hastening their warming. Open shipping ways will cause species to form different habitats to mingle. In the south, things are also dire. In 2002, Antarctica's Larsen B Ice Shelf, roughly the size of Rhode Island, collapsed after 12,000 years of stability. As the ice melts, warmer water penetrates deeper into low-lying channels, accelerating further melting. The ice sheet collapse would raise the global sea level by as much as a disastrous 3 meters (9.8 feet). Fortunately, the Eastern ice sheet is more stable, showing no signs of accelerated melting. That's good news. If it melted, sea levels would rise by as much as 60 meters (nearly 197 feet). About 200 million people worldwide live within 5 meters (about 5.5 yards) of sea level.

Sea level rise: Sea levels are rising, and faster than in any other century since Rome was founded. The current rate is 3 millimeters (0.11 inch) a year, with a total of 1 meter (3.3 feet) by 2100 if carbon emissions are not curbed. The collapse of the Antarctic ice sheet would accelerate this rate, some experts say by as much as 10 times. Scientists investigating fossils of underground coral in Tahiti dating from 150,000 years ago were alarmed to measure how fast oceans rose during the last glacial period. Around 14,650 years ago, sea levels rose by about 14 meters (45.9 feet), at a rate of about 46 millimeters (1.8 inch) per year. Estimates indicate that half of this increase in sea level came from melting Antarctic ice.

Extreme temperatures: The prediction was that global warming would intensify both heat waves and cold snaps. Alas, heat waves are indeed intensifying but not so much cold snaps. When humidity rises, you sweat more to keep your body cool. (Ask any runner what happens when running in high humidity.) But at a certain point, this natural cooling mechanism starts to fail, leading to severe dehydration. Last year, severe heat waves killed thousands of people in India and Pakistan. Ethan Coffel from Columbia University predicts that by 2060, 250 million worldwide could face deadly levels of heat and humidity. At the other extreme, cold snaps — another source of deadly temperatures, this time by hypothermia — would lessen.

For the public at large, the main difficulty with these predictions is that they are not immediate or directly relatable to specific events. People tend to dismiss what's not due to a transparent cause-and-effect dynamic.

Scientists make predictions based on detailed data analyses, and reach consensus by openly exchanging information in journal articles and conferences. The process is not perfect, but its great advantage is that it is self-correcting: As we study more, we learn more. It's also the only method we have to get some grip on what's going to happen with a certain margin of confidence.

Putting these 10 years in perspective, it's clear that global warming is already acting and gradually changing our planet's climate and landscapes. The pace may not be exactly mirrored by predictions, but to expect that would be unrealistic. What science can do is explore an issue and furnish as much evidence as possible to raise public and political awareness. This is what climate scientists are doing.

The data are out there, accessible to those who have an interest in learning at many levels, from technical studies to more general reviews. The truth may be inconvenient, but it's our truth, one that we all share in a finite planet. If there is one lesson from history we may apply here, is that denial is never an efficient long-term strategy.

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Marcelo Gleiser is a theoretical physicist and cosmologist — and professor of natural philosophy, physics and astronomy at Dartmouth College.

[jdsky]

26 minutes ago, jtssrx said:

In order to prove the globe And the heliocentric model you  have to prove gravity axial rotation and curvature. Ill wait 

Sorry.  Don't need to.  Actual science has already done this for me hundreds of years ago and to this day there is no real benefit to an alternative.

On the other hand flat earther's just continue to lob their bullshit hoping to add more weak brained followers to the cult.  The benefit to the followers?  Nothing at all really but it creates a platform for the cultist leaders to assume some sort of power position that get's them off controlling the thoughts of others. 

 

[Highmark]

2 hours ago, jtssrx said:

You can’t produce them

Can you produce data using the scientific method that the earth is flat?   How about actual visual proof?

[Highmark]

1 hour ago, jdsky said:

Sorry.  Don't need to.  Actual science has already done this for me hundreds of years ago and to this day there is no real benefit to an alternative.

On the other hand flat earther's just continue to lob their bullshit hoping to add more weak brained followers to the cult.  The benefit to the followers?  Nothing at all really but it creates a platform for the cultist leaders to assume some sort of power position that get's them off controlling the thoughts of others. 

 

Brainwashed cult is the perfect definition. 

[jtssrx]

5 hours ago, XCR1250 said:

Want Astronaut Jeff Williams phone number?

Yes so I can call him a bullshitter LMAO   "AstroNOT"

 

3 hours ago, Highmark said:

Can you produce data using the scientific method that the earth is flat?   How about actual visual proof?

Yes I can provide you multiple videos and photo's that show there is no curvature.

As an Example on most nights we can see across Lake Huron from Port Austin to Tawas. It's 48 miles across the bay. the amount of drop required on a globe is 1366 feet. On a very clear night I can see the entire shore line. On most every night I can minimally see the Lights on the tops of every windmill on that side. The average height of a windmill in the United States is 280 feet. Les double it hell lets triple it. The Windmills would still be obscured by over 600 feet of curvature. 

 

I'm going to purchase A P1000 Camera this winter. I'll take photos and video next summer. 

5 hours ago, jdsky said:

Sorry.  Don't need to.  Actual science has already done this for me hundreds of years ago and to this day there is no real benefit to an alternative.

On the other hand flat earther's just continue to lob their bullshit hoping to add more weak brained followers to the cult.  The benefit to the followers?  Nothing at all really but it creates a platform for the cultist leaders to assume some sort of power position that get's them off controlling the thoughts of others. 

 

If that's true why do you keep reply to my post dumbfuck??

[Highmark]

19 minutes ago, jtssrx said:

 

 

Yes I can provide you multiple videos and photo's that show there is no curvature.

As an Example on most nights we can see across Lake Huron from Port Austin to Tawas. It's 48 miles across the bay. the amount of drop required on a globe is 1366 feet. On a very clear night I can see the entire shore line. On most every night I can minimally see the Lights on the tops of every windmill on that side. The average height of a windmill in the United States is 280 feet. Les double it hell lets triple it. The Windmills would still be obscured by over 600 feet of curvature. 

 

I'm going to purchase A P1000 Camera this winter. I'll take photos and video next summer. 

 

Please do.    

So every picture on the internet showing an object in the distance being lower is photoshopped?    

 

Edited August 9, 2021 by Highmark

[nacapster]

Lets all chip in and buy jtssrx a seat on the next space-x flight and see what he has to say when he gets back. 

[XCR1250]

I realize  there are very odd conspiracy whackos out there but most have other issues going i.e. druggies, lower IQ or lack of schooling, but even the majority of those folks know the Earth isn't flat, that's just plain idiocy. It would require 1000's of folks lying,--- for what purpose?

[jtssrx]

7 minutes ago, Highmark said:

Please do.    

So every picture on the internet showing an object in the distance being lower is photoshopped?    

 

This isn't photoshopped It's perspective. A good camera would pull all of that back into focus. However Multple globers have been busted photo shopping pics like this. 

 

I'm actully laughing out loud right now thatn you think this shows a ball. You probobly think Boats sail over the horizon in the same way this pic makes it look like the towers are curving over the horizon. 

This video explains this with photo evidence

 

 

[jtssrx]

Just now, XCR1250 said:

I realize  there are very odd conspiracy whackos out there but most have other issues going i.e. druggies, lower IQ or lack of schooling, but even the majority of those folks know the Earth isn't flat, that's just plain idiocy. It would require 1000's of folks lying,--- for what purpose?

You know it? Again using the scientific method Prove gravity. 

 

There are currently many thousand lying about Covid. Every government an almost everyone involved in said governments

[jtssrx]

Just now, nacapster said:

Lets all chip in and buy jtssrx a seat on the next space-x flight and see what he has to say when he gets back. 

FakeX

[Highmark]

2 minutes ago, jtssrx said:

This isn't photoshopped It's perspective. A good camera would pull all of that back into focus. However Multple globers have been busted photo shopping pics like this. 

 

I'm actully laughing out loud right now thatn you think this shows a ball. You probobly think Boats sail over the horizon in the same way this pic makes it look like the towers are curving over the horizon. 

This video explains this with photo evidence