USA Contributing Member $poorsledder$ Posted December 30, 2020 USA Contributing Member Share Posted December 30, 2020 OK I have a 2015 Ski Doo MXZ TNT 800R etec with no spare belt. Looking online and prices are anywhere from $50's to $200 bucks? Trying to figure out what the differences before I go to the dealer and have him rape me for the same thing I could have bought on line. Where's the Ski Doo pros that can tell me which is the best belt to get. I don't mind spending for what I need just don't want to buy a piece of crap or get ripped off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinker Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 The 383 is a safe bet and usually a few buck cheaper, the 377 holds up OK and an older 166 works too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted December 30, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted December 30, 2020 I was going to say that an Ultimax would be good as a spare...are they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 26 minutes ago, $poorsledder$ said: OK I have a 2015 Ski Doo MXZ TNT 800R etec with no spare belt. Looking online and prices are anywhere from $50's to $200 bucks? Trying to figure out what the differences before I go to the dealer and have him rape me for the same thing I could have bought on line. Where's the Ski Doo pros that can tell me which is the best belt to get. I don't mind spending for what I need just don't want to buy a piece of crap or get ripped off. 383 is fine if it's worked for you so far. They are cheap. The CF one is a 391 (I believe) and considerably more $$$$ but, much stronger belt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 just buy the gates, it's a good belt for half the money of a 383/391. Hell I'll look to see if i still have a gates in my bag and send it to you if i do i'm never going to need it. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckf Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, Angry ginger said: just buy the gates, it's a good belt for half the money of a 383/391. Hell I'll look to see if i still have a gates in my bag and send it to you if i do i'm never going to need it. Side x side for summer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, ckf said: Side x side for summer? uses a different belt how far from you to derby, just messaged a guy about one up there with 600 miles on it and a bunch of accessories i would have done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckf Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 29 minutes ago, Angry ginger said: uses a different belt how far from you to derby, just messaged a guy about one up there with 600 miles on it and a bunch of accessories i would have done. Half hour to Derby. Gary is about 15 minutes and goes there often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGNHL Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Tinker said: The 383 is a safe bet and usually a few buck cheaper, the 377 holds up OK and an older 166 works too 391 is what you wanna run on an 800 etec if you ride more than putt putt, they hold up much better. 391s are hard to find though as they have been discontinued, now you have to buy the 8fiddy version which I can't remember the number off the top of my head. 1 hour ago, Jimmy Snacks said: I was going to say that an Ultimax would be good as a spare...are they? I tried a gates carbon belt and it grenaded at 110 on a big straight away after 1100 miles, never had a Doo belt grenade on me less than 2500 miles, but I change preemptively at 2k Edited December 30, 2020 by GGNHL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Jimmy Snacks said: I was going to say that an Ultimax would be good as a spare...are they? The ultimax always pulled 150 rpm higher because it was harder compound than the factory Polaris belts. They also accelerated primary clutch sheave wear. Maybe that’s changed now. It wasn’t a big deal, but I had to tune around the harder compound material. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted December 30, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted December 30, 2020 1 hour ago, GGNHL said: 391 is what you wanna run on an 800 etec if you ride more than putt putt, they hold up much better. 391s are hard to find though as they have been discontinued, now you have to buy the 8fiddy version which I can't remember the number off the top of my head. I tried a gates carbon belt and it grenaded at 110 on a big straight away after 1100 miles, never had a Doo belt grenade on me less than 2500 miles, but I change preemptively at 2k Agree. I don’t understand guys who spend thousands sledding - 10K plus on a sled, 5K on a trailer, 2K on accessories, 1k on gear, when saddle-bagging trips average a $1-1.50/mile to ride when factoring in gas, oil, food, lodging, transportation, permits, etc but worry about saving $50 on a subpar belt. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XCR1250 Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 1 hour ago, GGNHL said: 391 is what you wanna run on an 800 etec if you ride more than putt putt, they hold up much better. 391s are hard to find though as they have been discontinued, now you have to buy the 8fiddy version which I can't remember the number off the top of my head. I tried a gates carbon belt and it grenaded at 110 on a big straight away after 1100 miles, never had a Doo belt grenade on me less than 2500 miles, but I change preemptively at 2k Odd, that's all we use for our 300+ HP race sleds, never blew a Gates Carbon belt but we do change any belt if they shows any wear, I'm on the 3rd. year with the same Gate's belt, no idea on the miles though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGNHL Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 22 minutes ago, XCR1250 said: Odd, that's all we use for our 300+ HP race sleds, never blew a Gates Carbon belt but we do change any belt if they shows any wear, I'm on the 3rd. year with the same Gate's belt, no idea on the miles though. Yeah I imagine you guys are changing those at 300 to 500 miles on those race sleds, probably less knowing the force exerted from HP like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XCR1250 Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 8 minutes ago, GGNHL said: Yeah I imagine you guys are changing those at 300 to 500 miles on those race sleds, probably less knowing the force exerted from HP like that. I changed belts cause the 1115 & 1075 Poo belts were failing on 2 of the 4 Drag sleds so I thought to try something else, sent an E-Mail to Gates and Dayco, the answers I received sorta convinced me to try the C Gates belts, so far anyhow I like them... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 42 minutes ago, SnowRider said: Agree. I don’t understand guys who spend thousands sledding - 10K plus on a sled, 5K on a trailer, 2K on accessories, 1k on gear, when saddle-bagging trips average a $1-1.50/mile to ride when factoring in gas, oil, food, lodging, transportation, permits, etc but worry about saving $50 on a subpar belt. Because not all aftermarket belts are sub parts . You really think doo has a belt factory out there ? You blow a deyco they send you a new for just the cost of the ride . I always flat spot them long before bpwing one any way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Just now, Ez ryder said: Because not all aftermarket belts are sub parts . You really think doo has a belt factory out there ? You blow a deyco they send you a new for just the cost of the ride . I always flat spot them long before bpwing one any way He doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about....and sure as fuck doesn't know what you are talking about either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted December 30, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted December 30, 2020 Damn - I should have checked with the powerline racer..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckf Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 55 minutes ago, SnowRider said: Agree. I don’t understand guys who spend thousands sledding - 10K plus on a sled, 5K on a trailer, 2K on accessories, 1k on gear, when saddle-bagging trips average a $1-1.50/mile to ride when factoring in gas, oil, food, lodging, transportation, permits, etc but worry about saving $50 on a subpar belt. Not everyone that rides has that much invested. The guy riding a $1500-$2000 sled is having just as much fun though. 3 minutes ago, SnowRider said: Damn - I should have checked with the powerline racer..... He has the pit coat to prove it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted December 30, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted December 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, ckf said: Not everyone that rides has that much invested. The guy riding a $1500-$2000 sled is having just as much fun though. He has the pit coat to prove it. I agree for the local rider on dated iron. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 3 hours ago, ckf said: Half hour to Derby. Gary is about 15 minutes and goes there often. might come up this weekend to look at this. Good amount of accessories on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckf Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Just now, Angry ginger said: might come up this weekend to look at this. Good amount of accessories on it Let me know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinker Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 3 hours ago, GGNHL said: 391 is what you wanna run on an 800 etec if you ride more than putt putt, they hold up much better. 391s are hard to find though as they have been discontinued, now you have to buy the 8fiddy version which I can't remember the number off the top of my head. I tried a gates carbon belt and it grenaded at 110 on a big straight away after 1100 miles, never had a Doo belt grenade on me less than 2500 miles, but I change preemptively at 2k The 391 is a great belt but it's a hard belt does not like being bound up as a spare and it's the most expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USA Contributing Member $poorsledder$ Posted December 31, 2020 Author USA Contributing Member Share Posted December 31, 2020 391 it is..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted December 31, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted December 31, 2020 16 hours ago, Angry ginger said: might come up this weekend to look at this. Good amount of accessories on it do it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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