SSFB Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Snake said: Yuh... no evidence out there. Derp! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 6 minutes ago, SSFB said: So you agree that we should take Trump's vote increase at face value and dismiss Biden's votes as fraud. Trump being hated doesn't mean he can't still gain votes, that's very simplistic, black and white thinking. He can definitely have an increase in votes and there also be an increase in votes against him/for his opponent. They aren't mutually exclusive. Nothing more to discuss here. Yes. No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, SSFB said: Derp! Just get out of Smales class on witty retorts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSFB Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 7 minutes ago, Snake said: Just get out of Smales class on witty retorts? It was a proper response to your straw man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtssrx Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 6 minutes ago, SSFB said: So you agree that we should take Trump's vote increase at face value and dismiss Biden's votes as fraud. Trump being hated doesn't mean he can't still gain votes, that's very simplistic, black and white thinking. He can definitely have an increase in votes and there also be an increase in votes against him/for his opponent. They aren't mutually exclusive. Nothing more to discuss here. Do you not understand anything about indicators? Joe Biden had zero enthusiasm. They could barely get 20 people to show up that includes events hosted by Barack Obama did for Biden within a few days of the election. Another indicator is when incumbents increase their vote totals They don’t lose. When I say don’t lose it’s never happened before. Biden under performed both Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama in every county that they carried with the exception of Milwaukee wayne/detroit Philadelphia Atlanta in Maricopa county in Arizona. These five countries all stoped counting at 2:00 am Eastern time. When they came online they instantly vote dumps that put biden ahead of trump. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtssrx Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 14 minutes ago, Snake said: I have no doubt they are complicit. Yuh... no evidence out there. They are complicit. Outside of Rand Paul ive seen zero republicans calling out the fraud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtssrx Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, SSFB said: It was a proper response to your straw man. You don’t even know what a fucking Strawman is. It certainly doesn’t apply here Edited November 30, 2020 by jtssrx 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, SSFB said: It was a proper response to your straw man. Baaaah! Baaaaaaahhhh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchy Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 8 minutes ago, jtssrx said: Do you not understand anything about indicators? Joe Biden had zero enthusiasm. They could barely get 20 people to show up that includes events hosted by Barack Obama did for Biden within a few days of the election. Another indicator is when incumbents increase their vote totals They don’t lose. When I say don’t lose it’s never happened before. so what? When you are only voting against someone else why would you go to see the guy whose box you have to check in order to do that? bold: until now. There's never been an incumbent more despised by the majority of the country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSFB Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Snake said: Baaaah! Baaaaaaahhhh! Man who supported GWB/McCain/Romney without reservation and abandoned them when Trump said to calls other person sheep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchy Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 1 minute ago, SSFB said: Man who supported GWB/McCain/Romney without reservation and abandoned them when Trump said to calls other person sheep. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1jkw Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Face it, Trump was the Hillary Clinton in this election. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 40 minutes ago, jtssrx said: The evidence 73 million votes an increase of 11 million votes proves this wrong. Not to mention the voting anomalies where Biden only got more votes than Obama in 5 counties the 5 counties Biden needed to win the election. Trump won 83% of every county in the country. If trump was as hated as you claim he would’ve lost not gain votes. Obama lost 8 million votes from 08 to 12. Obama was wildly popular but still lost millions of votes. Irrelevant. he won the small counties and got his ass handed to him in big metro counties. that has been the case for years for the pubs. trumps county map didn't look much different than 16 where he squeaked out a win and he lost by about the same number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtssrx Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 7 minutes ago, frenchy said: so what? When you are only voting against someone else why would you go to see the guy whose box you have to check in order to do that? bold: until now. There's never been an incumbent more despised by the majority of the country. None of the indicators support your argument. Outside of libtard echo chamber trump wasn’t universally hate. He didn’t lose support he improved it. The 11 million vote increase is a 20% improvement. In order for your Argument to be correct Trump would have had to of lost 20% and the polling that the fake media was paddling would’ve had to of been correct. Just as an example they had Biden winning Wisconsin by 18 points in a pole the day before the election he won by .3%. The hatred that you’re talking about the polling I just referenced we’re all suppression tactics used by the media. Every single economic indicator unemployment to where the economy sad especially before Covid pointed to a trump landslide. Here’s another thing that we are talking about the Democrats and the media claim they were taking the Senate in a landslide and adding to their house lead Both of those things Didn’t come true. Republicans also added to their totals in many states and took over to legislatures. If the Republican platform led by Trump was so awful none of this would’ve happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 35 minutes ago, DriftBusta said: Yes. No. nope no kool aid drinking there. Clearly a critical thinker at work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtssrx Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Just now, Angry ginger said: Irrelevant. he won the small counties and got his ass handed to him in big metro counties. that has been the case for years for the pubs. trumps county map didn't look much different than 16 where he squeaked out a win and he lost by about the same number. It’s not a relevant it speaks to exactly what I’m talking about Bidens big vote totals including his Popular vote lead comes from soley from California. You guys are acting like Trump was university headed across the country losing 17% of the counties Doesn’t reflect your stance at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchy Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, jtssrx said: None of the indicators support your argument. Outside of libtard echo chamber trump wasn’t universally hate. He didn’t lose support he improved it. The 11 million vote increase is a 20% improvement. In order for your Argument to be correct Trump would have had to of lost 20% and the polling that the fake media was paddling would’ve had to of been correct. Just as an example they had Biden winning Wisconsin by 18 points in a pole the day before the election he won by .3%. The hatred that you’re talking about the polling I just referenced we’re all suppression tactics used by the media. Every single economic indicator unemployment to where the economy sad especially before Covid pointed to a trump landslide. Here’s another thing that we are talking about the Democrats and the media claim they were taking the Senate in a landslide and adding to their house lead Both of those things Didn’t come true. Republicans also added to their totals in many states and took over to legislatures. If the Republican platform led by Trump was so awful none of this would’ve happened. highest voter turnout in 120 years says you are wrong, but continue cobbling together useless stats if it will help you sleep better at night. Edited November 30, 2020 by frenchy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1jkw Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Trump didn't win the margins needed in the rural counties to offset the losses in the cities, it's really that simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, jtssrx said: It’s not a relevant it speaks to exactly what I’m talking about Bidens big vote totals including his Popular vote lead comes from soley from California. You guys are acting like Trump was university headed across the country losing 17% of the counties Doesn’t reflect your stance at all It was clear throughout his term he was hated in areas their was large populations and had full support of the areas with more cows than people. Anyone whose did not see county numbers like that coming is an idiot. Trump spent his time campaigning in those toss up states for the rural/smaller city votes. Did he even make a trip to Atlanta or Philly to try to drum up any support. Edited November 30, 2020 by Angry ginger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSFB Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 9 minutes ago, jtssrx said: It’s not a relevant it speaks to exactly what I’m talking about Bidens big vote totals including his Popular vote lead comes from soley from California. You guys are acting like Trump was university headed across the country losing 17% of the counties Doesn’t reflect your stance at all Nobody said that, so that would be another strawman. Hilarious how Trump's vote totals are obviously totally legit but Biden's are obviously fraud! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtssrx Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 5 minutes ago, frenchy said: highest voter turnout in 120 years says you are wrong, but continue cobbling together useless stats if it will help you sleep better at night. It wasn’t the highest voter turnout out side of the over number you keep touching. We simply disagree. What’s hilarious is you don’t even have a vote you’re a Canadian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtssrx Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 1 minute ago, SSFB said: Nobody said that, so that would be another strawman. That’s not a Strawman you guys have said he was hated by the masses hence the crazy turnout. Again not a strawman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, SSFB said: Nobody said that, so that would be another strawman. zactly, I sit in a county that actually voted trump and I voted for him as well. he still lost because the other 2 big counties were heavily Biden and they have the biggest cities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtssrx Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, Angry ginger said: It was clear throughout his term he was hated in areas their was large populations and had full support of the areas with more cows than people. Anyone whose did not see county numbers like that coming is an idiot. Trump spent his time campaigning in those toss up states for the rural/smaller city votes. Did he even make a trip to Atlanta or Philly to try to drum up any support. Being hated in large populous areas doesn’t equal a presidential loss that’s why the Democrats targeted Wayne county Milwaukee county Philadelphia county Atlanta county in Maricopa county and Arizona that’s why Fox News called Arizona to try to suppress the vote early in the evening they needed to flip those five states to secure the electoral college win biden could’ve gotten every in California and new york and he couldn’t win the presidency without flipping those five states Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSFB Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 7 minutes ago, jtssrx said: That’s not a Strawman you guys have said he was hated by the masses hence the crazy turnout. Again not a strawman I said Biden gained votes by people voting against Trump. You're trying to exaggerate what was said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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