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Rudy made a good point on the case for 1st degree murder.


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I really thought it would be tough under MN law proving anything but 3rd degree but Rudy made an excellent point.

Charges should be updated to 1st degree murder for the one cop for sure. :thumbsup:

"He had that man down there for about eight minutes," Giuliani told host Bill Hemmer. "I counted five times [where Chauvin] was warned that he might be killing him [Floyd]. That's a lot of warning. That's a lot of intent.

"Every single time he [Chauvin] was told, 'He's not breathing,' he had a chance to reflect and decide, 'Am I going to continue to have him not breathing ... or am I going to stop?' Four, five times, he made the decision to do that. That's a lot of intent. That's just as good as premeditation the day before."

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6 minutes ago, Phoenix said:

Republi-cuck virtue-signalling.

Prove me wrong, show me where he has ever done this for a black on white killing...

Dude, prisons are full of black men. :lol: 

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Not going to happen.  They won't be able to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that it was premeditated and he intended to kill him.

Told my wife he would go down for 3rd degree murder.  Same charge for the guy who shot the Aussie woman in Minneapolis.

Not dying from asphyxiation, having underlying health conditions, with meth and fentanyl in his system is going to allow many different defense arguments.  Who knows if it goes to trial, maybe he pleads down to 2nd degree manslaughter?  That carries a sentence of up to 10 years in prison.  He for sure needs to see the inside of a prison cell for a long time and never be in a position of authority again.

 

609.185 MURDER IN THE FIRST DEGREE.

(a) Whoever does any of the following is guilty of murder in the first degree and shall be sentenced to imprisonment for life:

(1) causes the death of a human being with premeditation and with intent to effect the death of the person or of another;

(2) causes the death of a human being while committing or attempting to commit criminal sexual conduct in the first or second degree with force or violence, either upon or affecting the person or another;

(3) causes the death of a human being with intent to effect the death of the person or another, while committing or attempting to commit burglary, aggravated robbery, kidnapping, arson in the first or second degree, a drive-by shooting, tampering with a witness in the first degree, escape from custody, or any felony violation of chapter 152 involving the unlawful sale of a controlled substance;

(4) causes the death of a peace officer, prosecuting attorney, judge, or a guard employed at a Minnesota state or local correctional facility, with intent to effect the death of that person or another, while the person is engaged in the performance of official duties;

(5) causes the death of a minor while committing child abuse, when the perpetrator has engaged in a past pattern of child abuse upon a child and the death occurs under circumstances manifesting an extreme indifference to human life;

(6) causes the death of a human being while committing domestic abuse, when the perpetrator has engaged in a past pattern of domestic abuse upon the victim or upon another family or household member and the death occurs under circumstances manifesting an extreme indifference to human life; or

(7) causes the death of a human being while committing, conspiring to commit, or attempting to commit a felony crime to further terrorism and the death occurs under circumstances manifesting an extreme indifference to human life.

(b) For the purposes of paragraph (a), clause (4), "prosecuting attorney" has the meaning given in section 609.221, subdivision 2, paragraph (c), clause (4).

(c) For the purposes of paragraph (a), clause (4), "judge" has the meaning given in section 609.221, subdivision 2, paragraph (c), clause (5).

(d) For purposes of paragraph (a), clause (5), "child abuse" means an act committed against a minor victim that constitutes a violation of the following laws of this state or any similar laws of the United States or any other state: section 609.221; 609.222; 609.223; 609.224; 609.2242; 609.342; 609.343; 609.344; 609.345; 609.377; 609.378; or 609.713.

(e) For purposes of paragraph (a), clause (6), "domestic abuse" means an act that:

(1) constitutes a violation of section 609.221, 609.222, 609.223, 609.224, 609.2242, 609.342, 609.343, 609.344, 609.345, 609.713, or any similar laws of the United States or any other state; and

(2) is committed against the victim who is a family or household member as defined in section 518B.01, subdivision 2, paragraph (b).

(f) For purposes of paragraph (a), clause (7), "further terrorism" has the meaning given in section 609.714, subdivision 1.

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