Mainecat Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Meanwhile the republican roll by doing nothing for veterans.... Senate rejects bill on veterans benefits Gregg Zoroya , USA TODAY 8:50 a.m. EST November 15, 2016 The biggest spending bill for veterans in decades goes down to defeat in a divided Senate (Photo: J. Scott Applewhite AP) Story Highlights Largest piece of veterans legislation in decades goes down to defeat in Senate Only two Republicans vote for bill that is defeated by 56-41 Concerns over how to pay for the benefits led to bill's defeat The largest piece of veterans legislation in decades -- aimed at expanding health care, education and other benefits -- was rejected Thursday by the Senate on a procedural issue after proponents failed to obtain 60 votes to keep the bill alive. Wrangling over an issue -- veterans -- that often receives bipartisan support, the legislation died on a vote of 56-41, with only two Republicans voting for it. Most Republicans said it was too large, too costly and would burden a Department of Veterans Affairs already struggling to keep up with promised benefits. Sen Bernie Sanders, the Vermont independent and chairman of the Senate Veterans' Affairs Committee who authored the bill, argued that many provisions in the bill have won bipartisan support in other pieces of pending legislation before Congress. Republicans complained about how to pay for it. Sanders' legislation had more than 140 provisions costing $21 billion over 10 years. Most of that money was to come from billions of dollars the government projected it would be allowed to spend on wars overseas in the fight against al-Qaeda.But Republicans argued that this is "phony" budgeting becasue U.S. participation in the Iraq War is over and operations in Afghanistan are winding down. The legislation would have restored cost-of-living increases for the pensions of future military retirees; expanded VA health care by allowing acquisition of 27 new medical facilities and paid for reproductive services for 2,300 troops wounded in the Iraq and Afghanistan wars. It also would have expanded compensation for family caregivers of disabled veterans — something now provided for veterans of Iraq and Afghanistan — to families of veterans of all wars. The bill was supported by nearly all veterans groups. "Can we put politics aside for the good of our nation's veterans?" Sen. Patty Murray, D-Wash., former chairwoman of the VA committee, argued in urging its passage. "Can we show these heroes that - despite our differences - we will work as diligently toward getting them the benefits and care they've earned as they have worked for our nation?" "Before we expand that system," argued Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla., "what is needed is rigorous oversight and debate about how we're doing what we're doing now...When access is delayed, that's care denied." http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/02/27/veterans-legislation-bernie-sanders-senate/5859217/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Not the first time. Lets see how much they appropriate for new weaponry. Always have money for weapons but not for the men and women doing the work. Fuck them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted November 15, 2016 Gold Member Share Posted November 15, 2016 http://www.military.com/daily-news/2016/11/13/veterans-group-seeks-to-delay-passage-of-reform-bill.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 MC..we get it man....fake outrage. It's a "thing" for non-vets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02sled Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 19 minutes ago, Mainecat said: Meanwhile the republican roll by doing nothing for veterans.... Senate rejects bill on veterans benefits Gregg Zoroya , USA TODAY 8:50 a.m. EST November 15, 2016 The biggest spending bill for veterans in decades goes down to defeat in a divided Senate (Photo: J. Scott Applewhite AP) Story Highlights Largest piece of veterans legislation in decades goes down to defeat in Senate Only two Republicans vote for bill that is defeated by 56-41 Concerns over how to pay for the benefits led to bill's defeat The largest piece of veterans legislation in decades -- aimed at expanding health care, education and other benefits -- was rejected Thursday by the Senate on a procedural issue after proponents failed to obtain 60 votes to keep the bill alive. Wrangling over an issue -- veterans -- that often receives bipartisan support, the legislation died on a vote of 56-41, with only two Republicans voting for it. Most Republicans said it was too large, too costly and would burden a Department of Veterans Affairs already struggling to keep up with promised benefits. Sen Bernie Sanders, the Vermont independent and chairman of the Senate Veterans' Affairs Committee who authored the bill, argued that many provisions in the bill have won bipartisan support in other pieces of pending legislation before Congress. Republicans complained about how to pay for it. Sanders' legislation had more than 140 provisions costing $21 billion over 10 years. Most of that money was to come from billions of dollars the government projected it would be allowed to spend on wars overseas in the fight against al-Qaeda.But Republicans argued that this is "phony" budgeting becasue U.S. participation in the Iraq War is over and operations in Afghanistan are winding down. The legislation would have restored cost-of-living increases for the pensions of future military retirees; expanded VA health care by allowing acquisition of 27 new medical facilities and paid for reproductive services for 2,300 troops wounded in the Iraq and Afghanistan wars. It also would have expanded compensation for family caregivers of disabled veterans — something now provided for veterans of Iraq and Afghanistan — to families of veterans of all wars. The bill was supported by nearly all veterans groups. "Can we put politics aside for the good of our nation's veterans?" Sen. Patty Murray, D-Wash., former chairwoman of the VA committee, argued in urging its passage. "Can we show these heroes that - despite our differences - we will work as diligently toward getting them the benefits and care they've earned as they have worked for our nation?" "Before we expand that system," argued Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla., "what is needed is rigorous oversight and debate about how we're doing what we're doing now...When access is delayed, that's care denied." http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/02/27/veterans-legislation-bernie-sanders-senate/5859217/ Must be Trumps fault even though he isn't in the job yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted November 15, 2016 Author Share Posted November 15, 2016 Typical Republican do nothing for vets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted November 15, 2016 Author Share Posted November 15, 2016 6 minutes ago, Zambroski said: MC..we get it man....fake outrage. It's a "thing" for non-vets. You have no clue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmeeAgain Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 I wonder if we can get another "Trump has no chance" from you, just for fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 15 minutes ago, Zambroski said: MC..we get it man....fake outrage. It's a "thing" for non-vets. 8 minutes ago, Mainecat said: Typical Republican do nothing for vets. The bill wasn't good enough. More fake outrage from mc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted November 15, 2016 Author Share Posted November 15, 2016 3 minutes ago, racer254 said: The bill wasn't good enough. More fake outrage from mc. Then you negotiate changes. Its over now. The Republican party has historically not supported veterans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted November 15, 2016 Gold Member Share Posted November 15, 2016 Jezus... looks like slinger was the only liberal that is smart enough to not come back for repeated beatings. You would think drmocrats like snowrider and mc would wise up after getting daily beatings... trump and the majority republicsns will pass a meaningful bill instead of this garbage bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Mainecat said: Then you negotiate changes. Its over now. The Republican party has historically not supported veterans. 2 minutes ago, BOHICA said: Jezus... looks like slinger was the only liberal that is smart enough to not come back for repeated beatings. You would think drmocrats like snowrider and mc would wise up after getting daily beatings... trump and the majority republicsns will pass a meaningful bill instead of this garbage bill This is how you do it mc. Dems can go sit and cry for 2 years and let the adults govern Edited November 15, 2016 by racer254 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 20 minutes ago, Mainecat said: You have no clue Oh yes, of the two of us....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtralettucetomatoe580 Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Oh my god... Do you realize that you just posted an article revision from a bill vote that happened in FEB 2014?! HAHAHAHAHAHA you stupid fuck. You are so invested in acting like a hack that you just posted a two and a half year old article to bottom feed for any type of self conceived slant you could think of. You care soooooo much about Vets that you don't even know what bills are on the floor let alone happened 2 FUCKING YEARS AGO!!! This class is point and case how acting like a partisan hack and not being informed one bit can go wrong. This might just be the self ownage of year to date. MC, you just took over first place as the sites number one mouth breather. Congrats. Corrections & clarifications: This Feb. 27, 2014, article was inadvertently republished with a November 2016 video that no longer accompanies the story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtralettucetomatoe580 Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Don't for a second pretend like you care about Vets. This popped up in your news feed and you posted it. The best part is, you didn't even read it. Shame on you for using Veterans as a pawn in your attempts to slant Republicans. As a vet, I say fuck you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 4 minutes ago, xtralettucetomatoe580 said: Oh my god... Do you realize that you just posted an article revision from a bill vote that happened in FEB 2014?! HAHAHAHAHAHA you stupid fuck. You are so invested in acting like a hack that you just posted a two and a half year old article to bottom feed for any type of self conceived slant you could think of. You care soooooo much about Vets that you don't even know what bills are on the floor let alone happened 2 FUCKING YEARS AGO!!! This class is point and case how acting like a partisan hack and not being informed one bit can go wrong. This might just be the self ownage of year to date. MC, you just took over first place as the sites number one mouth breather. Congrats. Corrections & clarifications: This Feb. 27, 2014, article was inadvertently republished with a November 2016 video that no longer accompanies the story. Oh, bless his heart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtralettucetomatoe580 Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 He won't be back to defend his utter incompetence in this one. At what point does he snap ask someone at the nursing home to cut his dial up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 1 minute ago, xtralettucetomatoe580 said: He won't be back to defend his utter incompetence in this one. At what point does he snap ask someone at the nursing home to cut his dial up? Are you new here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtralettucetomatoe580 Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 3 hours ago, Mainecat said: Meanwhile I can't read or comprehend written word but the republicans are big meanies! Http://www.IWishIHadABrain.org/IEatCrayons/Derp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtralettucetomatoe580 Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 3 hours ago, Mainecat said: You have no clue You've responded to every other thread MC... Don't forget this one!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 they need to fix the VA. it's become a source of legal drug dealing. really really sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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xtralettucetomatoe580 Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 MC! Don't forget to come defend yourself in this thread!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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