Momorider Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted November 9, 2016 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted November 9, 2016 His legacy had a better chance at surviving if Bernie was nominated and elected. He guessed wrong and lost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momorider Posted November 9, 2016 Author Share Posted November 9, 2016 2 minutes ago, Highmark said: His legacy had a better chance at surviving if Bernie was nominated and elected. He guessed wrong and lost. Bernie the socialist getting elected Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted November 9, 2016 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted November 9, 2016 4 minutes ago, Momorider said: Bernie the socialist getting elected Until today I didn't think he could beat Trump. Trump won on the America first and anti-corruption message. I think Bernie may very well have beat Trump as Trump could not have used this against him. Trump would have won against him if the tapes were never made or come out but that was a game changer. The fact Sanders may have gotten even less AA and latino vote than Hillary would have made it more difficult for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtralettucetomatoe580 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 8 minutes ago, Highmark said: Until today I didn't think he could beat Trump. Trump won on the America first and anti-corruption message. I think Bernie may very well have beat Trump as Trump could not have used this against him. Trump would have won against him if the tapes were never made or come out but that was a game changer. The fact Sanders may have gotten even less AA and latino vote than Hillary would have made it more difficult for him. I think Sanders was more cued into the black vote. At least his history was. I don't know if he would have won. Instead of attacking Hillary on corruption, the rhetoric would be against socialism. I think that would scare just as many people to the polls on the right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted November 9, 2016 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted November 9, 2016 Just now, xtralettucetomatoe580 said: I think Sanders was more cued into the black vote. At least his history was. I don't know if he would have won. Instead of attacking Hillary on corruption, the rhetoric would be against socialism. I think that would scare just as many people to the polls on the right. No question it would have been a challenge and the question would be would he have centered himself some in the GE. My guess is not but the corruption thing KILLED Hillary and she still will win the popular vote. Bernie and Trump's stance on trade was not all that different. Taxes were a big difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momorider Posted November 9, 2016 Author Share Posted November 9, 2016 his rallies were as white as a snow covered frozen lake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebsell Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 Barry has a 56% approval rating. Don't sound like much but that's huge. Like him or hate him he did better than a lot of past POTUS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted November 9, 2016 Gold Member Share Posted November 9, 2016 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Ebsell said: Barry has a 56% approval rating. Don't sound like much but that's huge. Like him or hate him he did better than a lot of past POTUS Same polling places had clinton winning 400+ electoral votes..... Edited November 9, 2016 by BOHICA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 14 minutes ago, Ebsell said: Barry has a 56% approval rating. Don't sound like much but that's huge. Like him or hate him he did better than a lot of past POTUS 9 minutes ago, BOHICA said: Same polling places had clinton winning 400+ electoral votes..... That is an 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebsell Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 15 minutes ago, BOHICA said: Same polling places had clinton winning 400+ electoral votes..... 6 minutes ago, racer254 said: That is an On the world stage Obama is respected wether you like to admit it or not. And any of the polls I was watching showed Hillary with a slight lead and that's it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 1 minute ago, Ebsell said: On the world stage Obama is respected wether you like to admit it or not. And any of the polls I was watching showed Hillary with a slight lead and that's it. Hillary is not Obama, she is a first class selfish bitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebsell Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 11 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: Hillary is not Obama, she is a first class selfish bitch. And that's why she is never moving back into the whitehouse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted November 9, 2016 Gold Member Share Posted November 9, 2016 29 minutes ago, Ebsell said: On the world stage Obama is respected wether you like to admit it or not. And any of the polls I was watching showed Hillary with a slight lead and that's it. He may be popular globally as he should be as he has transfer an immense amount of wealth to the elite and outside this country. Once you get into this country into the meat and potatoe population he is very unpopular. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momorider Posted November 9, 2016 Author Share Posted November 9, 2016 40 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: Hillary is not Obama, she is a first class selfish bitch. Accountability is important. Thrillery must be held accountable for her treasonous crimes against America and the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 1 hour ago, Ebsell said: Barry has a 56% approval rating. Don't sound like much but that's huge. Like him or hate him he did better than a lot of past POTUS Yep, we have definitely had worse... And recently too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted November 10, 2016 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted November 10, 2016 9 hours ago, xtralettucetomatoe580 said: I think Sanders was more cued into the black vote. At least his history was. I don't know if he would have won. Instead of attacking Hillary on corruption, the rhetoric would be against socialism. I think that would scare just as many people to the polls on the right. The blacks did not go for him in the primary's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momorider Posted November 10, 2016 Author Share Posted November 10, 2016 7 hours ago, Anler said: Yep, we have definitely had worse... And recently too... Approval ratings are as accurate as the polls leading up to an election Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 9 hours ago, Ebsell said: On the world stage Obama is respected wether you like to admit it or not. And any of the polls I was watching showed Hillary with a slight lead and that's it. respected? yeah right u get a lot of respect from the world doing things like arming Mexican gangs and chasing terrorist country leaders around the globe and drawing new lines in the sand begging them to take pallets of cash . can some one remind me again what he did to get that Nobel he can umm umm umm his way through a teleprompter with elegance though . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 5 hours ago, Momorider said: Approval ratings are as accurate as the polls leading up to an election Funny, I live in a very Republican area. And I have had many political discussions with friends and neighbors in the last several months. One thing everybody agreed about is that the pundits and Trump keep talking about how bad things are but everyone is working here, the real estate market is booming and businesses are doing good. At some point you have to see the bullshit. So thats when they talk about abortion or Mexicans. Now fuck off you stupid nook... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momorider Posted November 10, 2016 Author Share Posted November 10, 2016 31 minutes ago, Anler said: Funny, I live in a very Republican area. And I have had many political discussions with friends and neighbors in the last several months. One thing everybody agreed about is that the pundits and Trump keep talking about how bad things are but everyone is working here, the real estate market is booming and businesses are doing good. At some point you have to see the bullshit. So thats when they talk about abortion or Mexicans. Now fuck off you stupid nook... Yah cuz your microcosm is the same as the rest of the country Eatler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayward Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 8 hours ago, Highmark said: The blacks did not go for him in the primary's. If I remember correctly, some showed up to his rallys, walked right up on stage, and took the mic right out of his hands.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momorider Posted November 10, 2016 Author Share Posted November 10, 2016 2 minutes ago, hayward said: If I remember correctly, some showed up to his rallys, walked right up on stage, and took the mic right out of his hands.... Only non whites to go to any of his rally's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtssrx Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 (edited) Legacy: Fundamentally Change America Translation: Divide everyone Proof: look at the reaction to the election by many in the left including the people in the MSM Edited November 10, 2016 by jtssrx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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