spin_dry Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 1 minute ago, irv said: Exactly. You tell us. If you think man is responsible for our ice ages and melts over millions upon millions of years, you're not well. Here, I'll help you get started. The global average temperature in the mid-Pliocene (3.3–3 mya) was 2–3 °C higher than today,[10] carbon dioxide levels were the same as today,[11] and global sea level was 25 m higher.[12] The northern hemisphere ice sheet was ephemeral before the onset of extensive glaciation over Greenland that occurred in the late Pliocene around 3 Ma.[13] The formation of an Arctic ice cap is signaled by an abrupt shift in oxygen isotope ratios and ice-rafted cobbles in the North Atlantic and North Pacific ocean beds.[14] Mid-latitude glaciation was probably underway before the end of the epoch. The global cooling that occurred during the Pliocene may have spurred on the disappearance of forests and the spread of grasslands and savannas.[ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pliocene Admit it, you have no idea what that even means. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irv Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 Just now, spin_dry said: Admit it, you have no idea what that even means. I know the climate isn't nor was ever caused by man. You? Venture into the link I provided. Lots more info in there about all sorts of these climate changes throughout the years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, NaturallyAspirated said: Just think, Tony is such a fucked up retard that even Mann can get him to retract. Oh that's awesome. Haha. Neal Sorry about your alarmist religion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 16 minutes ago, spin_dry said: What caused the ice age and what stabilized global temps afterward? Carbon tax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irv Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 5 minutes ago, NaturallyAspirated said: Just think, Tony is such a fucked up retard that even Mann can get him to retract. Oh that's awesome. Haha. Neal The same Micheal Mann who tried to sue someone because they questioned his findings then wouldn't provide/prove those findings in court?? Michael Mann Refuses to Produce Data, Loses Case https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2019/08/26/michael-mann-refuses-to-produce-data-loses-case/ https://www.thegwpf.com/media-ignores-michael-manns-court-loss-it-doesnt-fit-the-warmist-agenda/ https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/08/22/breaking-dr-tim-ball-wins-michaelemann-lawsuit-mann-has-to-pay/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, irv said: I know the climate isn't nor was ever caused by man. You? Venture into the link I provided. Lots more info in there about all sorts of these climate changes throughout the years. The amount of carbon in the atmosphere has increased 50% since the beginning of the industrial revolution. It’s been increasing exponentially as more people show up and more resources are required to support them. The question isn’t whether or not humans are causing a spike in carbon production, it’s what the effects of increased carbon will be on climate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 1 minute ago, spin_dry said: The amount of carbon in the atmosphere has increased 50% since the beginning of the industrial revolution. It’s been increasing exponentially as more people show up and more resources are required to support them. The question isn’t whether or not humans are causing a spike in carbon production, it’s what the effects of increased carbon will be on climate. The c02 itself? Basically nothing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 1 minute ago, ACE said: The c02 itself? Basically nothing Based on what scientific research? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, irv said: The same Micheal Mann who tried to sue someone because they questioned his findings then wouldn't provide/prove those findings in court?? Michael Mann Refuses to Produce Data, Loses Case https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2019/08/26/michael-mann-refuses-to-produce-data-loses-case/ https://www.thegwpf.com/media-ignores-michael-manns-court-loss-it-doesnt-fit-the-warmist-agenda/ https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/08/22/breaking-dr-tim-ball-wins-michaelemann-lawsuit-mann-has-to-pay/ Hey it was TB's fantasy not mine. Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 Just now, spin_dry said: Based on what scientific research? The fact that at these levels it can’t. Like Willy Soon said the notion that we can use trace amounts of c02 to raise or lower the planets temperature like a thermostat is absolutely ridiculous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 12 minutes ago, ACE said: Sorry about your alarmist religion That's Tony's SBYL Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irv Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 Just now, spin_dry said: The amount of carbon in the atmosphere has increased 50% since the beginning of the industrial revolution. It’s been increasing exponentially as more people show up and more resources are required to support them. The question isn’t whether or not humans are causing a spike in carbon production, it’s what the effects of increased carbon will be on climate. Says who? Do you believe CO2 is a pollutant like they try to get you to believe? That is exactly the question and exactly why they want to tax you. They currently feed 3-4 times the amount of CO2 into some greenhouses because it makes vegetation and the like flourish. If having more CO2 isn't a good thing, then I don't know what is? The fact is, the alarmists have no idea what the changing climate is going to do. It is all based on fear mongering and Bullshit science to fleece your pockets. http://www.omafra.gov.on.ca/english/crops/facts/00-077.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 1 minute ago, NaturallyAspirated said: That's Tony's SBYL Neal Is climate change in the room with you, right now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 Just now, irv said: Says who? Do you believe CO2 is a pollutant like they try to get you to believe? That is exactly the question and exactly why they want to tax you. They currently feed 3-4 times the amount of CO2 into some greenhouses because it makes vegetation and the like flourish. If having more CO2 isn't a good thing, then I don't know what is? The fact is, the alarmists have no idea what the changing climate is going to do. It is all based on fear mongering and Bullshit science to fleece your pockets. http://www.omafra.gov.on.ca/english/crops/facts/00-077.htm The planet is the greenest it's ever been. CO2 pollution? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 Just now, ACE said: Is climate change in the room with you, right now? Show me where on the doll climate change hurt you... Neal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 Just now, NaturallyAspirated said: Show me where on the doll climate change hurt you... Neal That’s the thing. It hasn’t! I was told I’d be dead or worse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: The planet is the greenest it's ever been. CO2 pollution? When you tell the alarmist cult that the planet is greener now than 20 years ago they get all kinds of upset lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irv Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 1 minute ago, ACE said: That’s the thing. It hasn’t! I was told I’d be dead or worse Over 20-30 yrs ago or longer. This 12 year earth ending nonsense has been going on for 20-30 yrs or longer and AOC is still spewing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 9 minutes ago, ACE said: That’s the thing. It hasn’t! I was told I’d be dead or worse But you are so triggered you must be hurting in your poor little heart! Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 1 minute ago, irv said: Over 20-30 yrs ago or longer. This 12 year earth ending nonsense has been going on for 20-30 yrs or longer and AOC is still spewing it. If there's one thing AOC knows, it's science. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irv Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 Just now, ArcticCrusher said: If there's one thing AOC knows, it's science. How someone like her gets into the political position she is in is beyond me??? I don't think I'd hire this nitwit if I owned a MacDonald's restaurant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 11 minutes ago, NaturallyAspirated said: But you are so triggered you must be hurting in your poor little heart! Neal Nope that’s you tho! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XC.Morrison Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 On 2/8/2020 at 1:14 PM, jtssrx said: You might wanna read up on Mr. Heller......... TheRealScoop_Tony Heller.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtssrx Posted February 10, 2020 Author Share Posted February 10, 2020 Just now, XC.Morrison said: You might wanna read up on Mr. Heller......... TheRealScoop_Tony Heller.pdf Ad hominem (Latin for "to the person"), short for argumentum ad hominem, typically refers to a fallacious argumentative strategy whereby genuine discussion of the topic at hand is avoided by instead attacking the character, motive, or other attribute of the person making the argument, or persons associated with the . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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