bussman Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Just now, jtssrx said: You’re wasting your time. Ben is a know it all. He’s not a waste of my time at all. He’s a really good person in real life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Just now, bussman said: Just wait until I get a few beers in me. You ain’t under some influence now?!?!? I don’t know if I’m ready for our relationship!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bussman Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Just now, f7ben said: Did god create him knowing his future Yes or no Don’t know, it’s not specifically stated. I say no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 (edited) Just now, bussman said: Don’t know, it’s not specifically stated. I say no. So god is not omnipotent??? You'd be the first Christian I ever met that would say as much Edited January 27, 2020 by f7ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bussman Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Zambroski said: You ain’t under some influence now?!?!? I don’t know if I’m ready for our relationship!!!!! The good thing is I tire easily, I’ll be asleep in an hour or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Someone famous will die next month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bussman Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, f7ben said: So god is not omnipotent??? You'd be the first Christian I ever met that would say as much Omnipotent in our reality/existence yes he is. How or where he and Satan exist before that isn’t said. And omniscient would be the more accurate term. Edited January 27, 2020 by bussman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Just now, bussman said: The good thing is I tire easily, I’ll be asleep in an hour or so. Lol....I’ll save that roofie then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 6 minutes ago, bussman said: Omnipotent in our reality/existence yes he is. How or where he and Satan exist before that isn’t said. And omniscient would be the more accurate term. That is not what the bible says Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bussman Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 1 minute ago, f7ben said: That is not what the bible says It doesn’t specifically say either way. Link the scripture though, maybe I’m wrong, I haven’t read the OT in awhile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 1 minute ago, bussman said: It doesn’t specifically say either way. Link the scripture though, maybe I’m wrong, I haven’t read the OT in awhile. Colossians 1:6 “For by him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things were created through him and for him.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ford_428cj Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 3 hours ago, Jimmy Snacks said: ABC just broke away from The Pro Bowl for a "Special Report" about the crash....GMAFB Gave you time to dump another half a bag of cheetohs in your bowl anyway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bussman Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Exactly what I thought, that’s our reality/realm. He doesn’t say where he came from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Just now, bussman said: Exactly what I thought, that’s our reality/realm. He doesn’t say where he came from. Its says.... "ALL THINGS WERE CREATED THROUGH HIM AND FOR HIM." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bussman Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Just now, f7ben said: Its says.... "ALL THINGS WERE CREATED THROUGH HIM AND FOR HIM." Yes, meaning our world/reality. Not his. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Just now, bussman said: Yes, meaning our world/reality. Not his. He created Satan and the gave him dominion over earth. What kind of sadist would do that to his creations Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 18 minutes ago, motonoggin said: Someone famous will die next month. Sign me up for two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bussman Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Just now, f7ben said: He created Satan and the gave him dominion over earth. What kind of sadist would do that to his creations Nothing is said about him “creating” Satan. Satan did receive dominion over earth and that’s pretty clearly explained. And a sadist wouldn’t come down to earth as a human to die to save his creation. A sadist would watch and revel in the torture of it all......just like Satan does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bussman Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 1 minute ago, spin_dry said: Sign me up for two. Comes in threes. And for a reason. But I’ve said enough for one day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, bussman said: Nothing is said about him “creating” Satan. Satan did receive dominion over earth and that’s pretty clearly explained. And a sadist wouldn’t come down to earth as a human to die to save his creation. A sadist would watch and revel in the torture of it all......just like Satan does. The story says he created satan....sorry bro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 39 minutes ago, bussman said: That answer gets back to God the creator and Satan the god of this world. If you don’t believe in that it’s harder to explain. Basically after the fall of man the earth became Satan’s. He is the loser case god of this world. He only has to follow specific rules of the universe. Like declare his intent. Which he does, but we ironically don’t believe it. In the end God wins, that’s all that matters to me. And I also am starting to believe that God reveals himself to all of us and if we just try to do good and am sorry when we do wrong that’s something called Christ consciousness. Organized Christianity was run by satanists to steer us away from this. This is just how I’m seeing this now, JMO. I don’t prescribe to that set of beliefs. In the 3rd grade I was like, this is bullshit. Spent the next several years pretending to believe in order to appease. I have my beliefs. It’s just not in the formation of all that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bussman Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 1 minute ago, f7ben said: The story says he created satan....sorry bro No it doesn’t. Sorry bro. 1 minute ago, spin_dry said: I don’t prescribe to that set of beliefs. In the 3rd grade I was like, this is bullshit. Spent the next several years pretending to believe in order to appease. I have my beliefs. It’s just not in the formation of all that. We all see things differently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 16 minutes ago, bussman said: No it doesn’t. Sorry bro. We all see things differently. Yes , it does. https://www.thegoodbook.com/blog/usefulresources/2016/10/04/where-did-satan-come-from/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bussman Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 7 minutes ago, f7ben said: Yes , it does. https://www.thegoodbook.com/blog/usefulresources/2016/10/04/where-did-satan-come-from/ No, their interpretation does. If you subscribe to that view of it go ahead. Some people do the same thing with the rapture, I don’t agree with that either. In the end though I don’t know either way. If you want to view Satan as a sympathetic figure that one is on you, that won’t end well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 28 minutes ago, bussman said: No it doesn’t. Sorry bro. We all see things differently. As far as the satan thing.....even god needs a boogeymen to remain relevant. So why not create one? After all, god created man in his image. As the song goes, “weapon out and belly in”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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