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1trailmaker Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 22 minutes ago, dirtybeacher said: I assume you think Andrew laid down a beating Funny how politicians can just say anything without proof anytime they want. Andrew says middle class is paying 1000$ more in taxes - what taxes? income? property? Justin says no we lowered taxes blah blah Now its up to a ONEWAY to say who is telling the truth - this has to stop by the way my family pays less today unlike everyone else here who pays more somehow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revrnd Posted September 30, 2017 Author Share Posted September 30, 2017 How the fuck do you guys get anything done? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 Finance Minster taking a beating at scheduled meetings - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 10 hours ago, 1trailmaker said: I assume you think Andrew laid down a beating Funny how politicians can just say anything without proof anytime they want. Andrew says middle class is paying 1000$ more in taxes - what taxes? income? property? Justin says no we lowered taxes blah blah Now its up to a ONEWAY to say who is telling the truth - this has to stop by the way my family pays less today unlike everyone else here who pays more somehow What channel are you watching. Sheers main comment is with regards to taxes for small bus. Btw, we are paying more overall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 8 hours ago, 1trailmaker said: Finance Minster taking a beating at scheduled meetings - You think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sksman Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 1 hour ago, ArcticCrusher said: What channel are you watching. Sheers main comment is with regards to taxes for small bus. Btw, we are paying more overall. Sorry AC. Justin says no and Failmaker agrees with him so you are wrong. I myself am still on the fence on this issue as i revue the conflicting reports. Do i side with our beloved PM and one of the smartest internet posters ever Failmaker (ask him he will give you the word according to google on any subject)? or do i side with the Fraser institute and my tax accountant who has sent me a report on how i will be paying more taxes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 40 minutes ago, Sksman said: Sorry AC. Justin says no and Failmaker agrees with him so you are wrong. I myself am still on the fence on this issue as i revue the conflicting reports. Do i side with our beloved PM and one of the smartest internet posters ever Failmaker (ask him he will give you the word according to google on any subject)? or do i side with the Fraser institute and my tax accountant who has sent me a report on how i will be paying more taxes? you need a new accountant, other than that I call bullshit he just sent you a report paying $1000 more (average) would be a 12% increase in taxes for a 50k earner - sorry not buying it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 2 hours ago, ArcticCrusher said: What channel are you watching. Sheers main comment is with regards to taxes for small bus. Btw, we are paying more overall. not just that, he called him the Million dollar PM like its a bad thing to have money. this was done to try to make it out that Trudeau isn't one of YOU and the conservatives are just average people. Is that how you see conservative type people as just average? There has only been a couple of changes to the tax code bottom tier no change next tier 1 1/2% decrease next tier no change next tier no change new tier added for those making more than 15% on the first $45,916 of taxable income, + 20.5% on the next $45,915 of taxable income (on the portion of taxable income over $45,916 up to $91,831), + 26% on the next $50,522 of taxable income (on the portion of taxable income over $91,831 up to $142,353), + 29% on the next $60,447 of taxable income (on the portion of taxable income over $142,353 up to $202,800), + 33% of taxable income over $202,800. can you and SK explain how we are paying 1000 more on AVERAGE ? As of September 2016, the average wage for Canadian employees was $952 a week – or just under $50,000 a year. sorry not buying it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 Fail, you have a myopic view Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 7 hours ago, ArcticCrusher said: Fail, you have a myopic view so you can't explain? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sksman Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 9 hours ago, 1trailmaker said: you need a new accountant, other than that I call bullshit he just sent you a report paying $1000 more (average) would be a 12% increase in taxes for a 50k earner - sorry not buying it You ready to put your money where your mouth is? Internet know it all says my accountant didn't put out a report on tax changes. How much? $500? $1000? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 1 minute ago, Sksman said: You ready to put your money where your mouth is? Internet know it all says my accountant didn't put out a report on tax changes. How much? $500? $1000? Just looking for answers on how this is possible. Andrew won't say how, his sheep certainly won't because they have no idea how its possible So since you are paying more and are of average wages - ask your accountant what exactly went up and post it here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 32 minutes ago, 1trailmaker said: so you can't explain? Its really complicated and the finance minister has been bombarded with real examples. As a quick example, say you had 1 mil to invest in yourself, what would you expect to have after day 10 years? Let me know and i can tell you better places to park that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 Just now, ArcticCrusher said: Its really complicated and the finance minister has been bombarded with real examples. As a quick example, say you had 1 mil to invest in yourself, what would you expect to have after day 10 years? Let me know and i can tell you better places to park that. we were talking about the middle class paying more already today by $1000 - I ask you how that is possible We know the minister is taking a beating from business on the loopholes being closed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 3 minutes ago, 1trailmaker said: we were talking about the middle class paying more already today by $1000 - I ask you how that is possible We know the minister is taking a beating from business on the loopholes being closed What don't you understand? The families who benefited the most were already higher earners so its arguable what real middle class family did best by the new changes. There is little arguement to say the family with 50k income and 5 kids did not fare better, but then they aren't really contributing are they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 6 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: What don't you understand? The families who benefited the most were already higher earners so its arguable what real middle class family did best by the new changes. There is little arguement to say the family with 50k income and 5 kids did not fare better, but then they aren't really contributing are they? Andy said the middle class is paying $1000 more in taxes since Trudeau came in, that was in the video leaving the high and low out of it, how are they paying 10% to 12% more? just not possible is he talking about guys like RR crying they can't deduct kids soccer as a credit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 53 minutes ago, 1trailmaker said: Andy said the middle class is paying $1000 more in taxes since Trudeau came in, that was in the video leaving the high and low out of it, how are they paying 10% to 12% more? just not possible is he talking about guys like RR crying they can't deduct kids soccer as a credit? I'm paying more, most i know are paying more. Like i said its complicated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 2 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: I'm paying more, most i know are paying more. Like i said its complicated. no its not - most people fill in the T1 and that's it - so that is the average middle tax payer fill in the blanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 12 minutes ago, 1trailmaker said: no its not - most people fill in the T1 and that's it - so that is the average middle tax payer fill in the blanks Where is the field for non reported income. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sksman Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 13 hours ago, 1trailmaker said: you need a new accountant, other than that I call bullshit he just sent you a report paying $1000 more (average) would be a 12% increase in taxes for a 50k earner - sorry not buying it 4 hours ago, 1trailmaker said: Just looking for answers on how this is possible. Andrew won't say how, his sheep certainly won't because they have no idea how its possible So since you are paying more and are of average wages - ask your accountant what exactly went up and post it here You called bullshit! I called you out. Stand up put your money where your mouth is! Lets go $1000? Or just ask nicely and i might post. But we will allknow who is really full of bullshit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 4 minutes ago, Sksman said: You called bullshit! I called you out. Stand up put your money where your mouth is! Lets go $1000? Or just ask nicely and i might post. But we will allknow who is really full of bullshit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtybeacher Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 5 hours ago, 1trailmaker said: Andy said the middle class is paying $1000 more in taxes since Trudeau came in, that was in the video leaving the high and low out of it, how are they paying 10% to 12% more? just not possible Elimination of income splitting and tax credits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Does Justin know what middle class is? Is the definition still someone living paycheck to paycheck? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 5 hours ago, dirtybeacher said: Elimination of income splitting and tax credits. Income splitting doesn't count since it was only there for a year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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