ArcticCrusher Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 1 minute ago, 1trailmaker said: Yes I know ISIS defeated under Trudeau, what is it you don't understand.. The hate from Harper didn't help the situation at the time and was the main reason he lost the election Trudeau taking the heat for the ones that left Canada under Harper - remember he had a recession that lasted his entire term and ended the day Trudeau was elected you are pretty funny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Borders closed until Oct 21 and will be extended again after that since the shit show is endless down south. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchy Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 2 hours ago, 1trailmaker said: Yes I know ISIS defeated under Trudeau, what is it you don't understand.. The hate from Harper didn't help the situation at the time and was the main reason he lost the election Trudeau taking the heat for the ones that left Canada under Harper - remember he had a recession that lasted his entire term and ended the day Trudeau was elected you are pretty funny man you really should stop being so butthurt and obsessed over a PM that hasn't been in power or even in the news for over 5 years. It's not healthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 More easy reading material. Diane Francis: Debunking the Liberal tax-and-spend myth There is no room left for tax hikes without leading to more dire consequences Deficit spending may have to continue in the wake of the pandemic. But Canada’s problem is that the Liberals, pre-COVID, were a disaster already. PHOTO BY BLAIR GABLE/REUTERS Liberals often share two common myths: that running deficits and racking up debt can continue indefinitely; and that there is no limit to how high taxes can be raised. Both must be debunked. Deficit spending may have to continue in the wake of the pandemic. But Canada’s problem is that the Liberals, pre-COVID, were a disaster already. Since 2015, they have hiked deficits, debts, taxes and regulatory burdens. As a result, investment in 10 of Canada’s 15 major business sectors dropped by 17 per cent, as domestic and foreign investors fled for more profitable countries, representing a loss to the economy of more than $185 billion. Two of the top three credit rating agencies downgraded Canada. The current account balance, or outflow of funds annually, jumped. In other words, the Liberals squandered the good times and they cannot revert to their tax-and-spend ways. The parliamentary budget officer recently stated that the country has two years before this level of spending becomes completely “unsustainable.” rancis: Canada’s pandemic response is a fiscal mess The deficit will ebb naturally as the economy gets back up and running, but fiscal discipline is not the DNA of the Liberals, or, for that matter, the NDP, the party the Liberals often rely on to pass their profligate spending packages in this minority Parliament. It’s also worrisome that a large number of refugees from discredited Ontario Liberal regimes now sit around the cabinet table or advise it. Lest we forget, between 2003 and 2018, the Ontario Liberals took the province’s debt from $139 billion to $348.7 billion and collapsed its credit rating to “negative” levels. Taxes jumped, and excessively subsidized solar and wind schemes made its economy uncompetitive. Hundreds of thousands of steel, auto and manufacturing jobs disappeared. Once bitten, twice worried, investors began dumping stocks in recent weeks amid rumours the federal Liberals were about to hike capital gains and other taxes. The inconvenient truth is that the Liberals are not trustworthy stewards of the economy. The fact is that Canada is already one of the highest-taxed countries on earth. There is no room left for tax hikes, without leading to more dire consequences. As of 2020, Canada had a top personal income tax rate of 54 per cent, top corporate rate of 38 per cent and a sales tax of up to 15 per cent, depending on the province. This is close to Portugal, which has a 59 per cent income tax rate, 23 per cent sales tax, but only 21 per cent corporate tax rate. The caveat is that Portugal, like other countries in Europe with high taxes, has an enormous underground economy that pays no taxes. Other high-tax jurisdictions include Sweden, Denmark, Finland and Austria. Notably, all have considerably lower corporate tax rates than Canada. Most revealing, however, are rates in the United States and Australia. The United States — our economic customer, partner and rival — has a top income tax rate of 50 per cent (which does not kick in until significantly higher levels of income have been reached), sales taxes that vary from zero to 11.74 per cent and a top corporate tax rate of only 21 per cent. Australia — which also has a resource-based economy and offers comparable social services to Canada — also has lower taxes across the board. Its top income tax rate is 47 per cent, its corporate rate is 30 per cent and the sales tax is only 10 per cent. Canadians, by most measurements, are over-taxed and our governments are over-indebted. This predicament happened before COVID, not because of it, and has been caused by years of mediocre governance. Polls, however, show the priorities of most Canadians are dealing with the pandemic and jobs — not more spending on free dental, daycare or solar farms. “People know this money has to be paid back and the best social program is a job,” said Goldy Hyder, president and chief executive officer of the Business Council of Canada. And they’re right. Financial Post https://financialpost.com/diane-francis/diane-francis-debunking-the-liberal-tax-and-spend-myth/wcm/316ea12e-4f33-4cf4-8537-b0cc6d10c993/?__vfz=medium%3Dconversations_top_pages Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 7 hours ago, ArcticCrusher said: More easy reading material. Diane Francis: Debunking the Liberal tax-and-spend myth There is no room left for tax hikes without leading to more dire consequences Deficit spending may have to continue in the wake of the pandemic. But Canada’s problem is that the Liberals, pre-COVID, were a disaster already. PHOTO BY BLAIR GABLE/REUTERS Liberals often share two common myths: that running deficits and racking up debt can continue indefinitely; and that there is no limit to how high taxes can be raised. Both must be debunked. Deficit spending may have to continue in the wake of the pandemic. But Canada’s problem is that the Liberals, pre-COVID, were a disaster already. Since 2015, they have hiked deficits, debts, taxes and regulatory burdens. As a result, investment in 10 of Canada’s 15 major business sectors dropped by 17 per cent, as domestic and foreign investors fled for more profitable countries, representing a loss to the economy of more than $185 billion. Two of the top three credit rating agencies downgraded Canada. The current account balance, or outflow of funds annually, jumped. In other words, the Liberals squandered the good times and they cannot revert to their tax-and-spend ways. The parliamentary budget officer recently stated that the country has two years before this level of spending becomes completely “unsustainable.” rancis: Canada’s pandemic response is a fiscal mess The deficit will ebb naturally as the economy gets back up and running, but fiscal discipline is not the DNA of the Liberals, or, for that matter, the NDP, the party the Liberals often rely on to pass their profligate spending packages in this minority Parliament. It’s also worrisome that a large number of refugees from discredited Ontario Liberal regimes now sit around the cabinet table or advise it. Lest we forget, between 2003 and 2018, the Ontario Liberals took the province’s debt from $139 billion to $348.7 billion and collapsed its credit rating to “negative” levels. Taxes jumped, and excessively subsidized solar and wind schemes made its economy uncompetitive. Hundreds of thousands of steel, auto and manufacturing jobs disappeared. Once bitten, twice worried, investors began dumping stocks in recent weeks amid rumours the federal Liberals were about to hike capital gains and other taxes. The inconvenient truth is that the Liberals are not trustworthy stewards of the economy. The fact is that Canada is already one of the highest-taxed countries on earth. There is no room left for tax hikes, without leading to more dire consequences. As of 2020, Canada had a top personal income tax rate of 54 per cent, top corporate rate of 38 per cent and a sales tax of up to 15 per cent, depending on the province. This is close to Portugal, which has a 59 per cent income tax rate, 23 per cent sales tax, but only 21 per cent corporate tax rate. The caveat is that Portugal, like other countries in Europe with high taxes, has an enormous underground economy that pays no taxes. Other high-tax jurisdictions include Sweden, Denmark, Finland and Austria. Notably, all have considerably lower corporate tax rates than Canada. Most revealing, however, are rates in the United States and Australia. The United States — our economic customer, partner and rival — has a top income tax rate of 50 per cent (which does not kick in until significantly higher levels of income have been reached), sales taxes that vary from zero to 11.74 per cent and a top corporate tax rate of only 21 per cent. Australia — which also has a resource-based economy and offers comparable social services to Canada — also has lower taxes across the board. Its top income tax rate is 47 per cent, its corporate rate is 30 per cent and the sales tax is only 10 per cent. Canadians, by most measurements, are over-taxed and our governments are over-indebted. This predicament happened before COVID, not because of it, and has been caused by years of mediocre governance. Polls, however, show the priorities of most Canadians are dealing with the pandemic and jobs — not more spending on free dental, daycare or solar farms. “People know this money has to be paid back and the best social program is a job,” said Goldy Hyder, president and chief executive officer of the Business Council of Canada. And they’re right. Financial Post https://financialpost.com/diane-francis/diane-francis-debunking-the-liberal-tax-and-spend-myth/wcm/316ea12e-4f33-4cf4-8537-b0cc6d10c993/?__vfz=medium%3Dconversations_top_pages Dianne is an american Trump lover that really hasn't a clue, she speaks about Trudeau in so many tweets as spending Liberals but praises Trump for his spending. Not sure how this works considering Trump has spent more than any President and debt is beyond recovery Thsi is what Dianne retweets ( clueless) 46% of small businesses across Canada are not expected to reopen; when CERB and rent and mortgage deferrals cease, the number of homeless, penniless Canadians with no place to live will be in the millions and make the 1930's depression seem like an economic boom. @dianefrancis1 so while bashing Trudeau spending she then says without the CERB small Business is dead Seems like she is say Trudeau is saving all businesses. 46% of all small businesses will not open AC find a better source or at least checkout the ones you post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 1 hour ago, 1trailmaker said: Dianne is an american Trump lover that really hasn't a clue, she speaks about Trudeau in so many tweets as spending Liberals but praises Trump for his spending. Not sure how this works considering Trump has spent more than any President and debt is beyond recovery Thsi is what Dianne retweets ( clueless) 46% of small businesses across Canada are not expected to reopen; when CERB and rent and mortgage deferrals cease, the number of homeless, penniless Canadians with no place to live will be in the millions and make the 1930's depression seem like an economic boom. @dianefrancis1 so while bashing Trudeau spending she then says without the CERB small Business is dead Seems like she is say Trudeau is saving all businesses. 46% of all small businesses will not open AC find a better source or at least checkout the ones you post You're an idiot. Dianne has JTs number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irv Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 (edited) "It's the same ole cliche, is that a woman or a man" Edited September 22, 2020 by irv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 18 minutes ago, irv said: "It's the same ole cliche, is that a woman or a man" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchy Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 poor fail. Now he's lumping the Financial Post in with Rebel because what's printed in it makes his butt hurt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManOnManOral Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 On 9/21/2020 at 10:08 AM, 1trailmaker said: Do you think Bernardo votes Liberal - Consider 99% of all charity work is from LIBERAL people, I think many are more than caring Name 1 charity organization that is completely run by Conservatives - you can google all day to find it. feed to homeless shelters Your world has turned LEFT and RIGHT in the past year - sad Most churches. Idiot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poncho Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 (edited) On 9/21/2020 at 5:09 PM, 1trailmaker said: funny but yes high dollar and high oil prices and yet nothing but deficits, we can a agree here. Remember when people were leaving Canada under Harper by the thousands to fight with ISIS? Those were cool days unlike today where this doesn't happen. I guess you a pick and choose what the meme should say When covid spending stops next month what will the projected deficit be? Justin brought ISIS and the followers in for free. So why leave Canada when we pay them to say here and fight for ISIS. What the fuck is your point.... Trail we all know the drugs have killed your tiny brain. You are a complete Liberal Troll. Shameless sad person you are. Shameless Edited September 23, 2020 by Poncho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poncho Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 On 9/21/2020 at 10:08 AM, 1trailmaker said: Do you think Bernardo votes Liberal - Consider 99% of all charity work is from LIBERAL people, I think many are more than caring Name 1 charity organization that is completely run by Conservatives - you can google all day to find it. feed to homeless shelters Your world has turned LEFT and RIGHT in the past year - sad The one that founded this country... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 17 minutes ago, Poncho said: Justin brought ISIS and the followers in for free. ? ah da ah NO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 4 hours ago, irv said: "It's the same ole cliche, is that a woman or a man" CBC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toslow Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 1 minute ago, 1trailmaker said: ? ah da ah NO Who’s supporting them and letting them cross the border in Montreal, and who announce today to spend another billion to buy property to house them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poncho Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, 1trailmaker said: ? ah da ah NO He paid one of them 10 million. Funny how Libtards forget. Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 5 hours ago, ArcticCrusher said: You're an idiot. Dianne has JTs number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 1 minute ago, Poncho said: He paid one of them 10 million. Funny how Libtards forget. Lol The appeals were over, time to move on it was a 15 year deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, toslow said: Who’s supporting them and letting them cross the border in Montreal, and who announce today to spend another billion to buy property to house them. Who is crossing? Terrorist? wtf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toslow Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Just now, 1trailmaker said: Who is crossing? Terrorist? wtf You think they all are going to become law abiding Canadian citizens? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poncho Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, 1trailmaker said: The appeals were over, time to move on it was a 15 year deal So paying the terrorist is OK because of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 1 minute ago, toslow said: You think they all are going to become law abiding Canadian citizens? Yes 99.9% Crossing at Montreal right>? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poncho Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, 1trailmaker said: Who is crossing? Terrorist? wtf Well they do not have Canada’s best interest in mind. Are Liberals so stupid. Do you think when they walk in with their cell phones and Designer clothing they have any other interest but to leach off our system. Please Trial you must have a tiny bit of your drug wasted 🧠 left. Think. Forget being Liberal, just think a little bit. Think 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, Poncho said: So paying the terrorist is OK because of time. dude we don't know what happened, come on YES IT SUCKS get over it this wasn't Trudeau's fault court case over done finished Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1trailmaker Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 1 minute ago, Poncho said: Well they do not have Canada’s best interest in mind. Are Liberals so stupid. Do you think when they walk in with their cell phones and Designer clothing they have any other interest but to leach off our system. Please Trial you must have a tiny bit of your drug wasted 🧠 left. Think. Forget being Liberal, just think a little bit. Think mostly women and her children running from Trump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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