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NaturallyAspirated Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 Congress was and is secondary to the absurdity in cost of education. Congress would never have had to jump in if prices remained sane where even basic jobs could pay back the prices. Neal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmo Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 23 minutes ago, NaturallyAspirated said: Congress was and is secondary to the absurdity in cost of education. Congress would never have had to jump in if prices remained sane where even basic jobs could pay back the prices. Neal It is absurd. This. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 When you pay a fake fucking Indian $400,000 per year to teach one course, of course it's going to be expensive. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted September 12, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 12, 2019 1 minute ago, Snake said: When you pay a fake fucking Indian $400,000 per year to teach one course, of course it's going to be expensive. $345,000 , but yeah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtssrx Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, Snake said: When you pay a fake fucking Indian $400,000 per year to teach one course, of course it's going to be expensive. Fake Indian lmao!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 5 minutes ago, steve from amherst said: $345,000 , but yeah. I was 1 student's tuition off. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 the multi million buck student unions the lavish 2 bedroom dorms the list is crazy long . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 (edited) 53 minutes ago, Snake said: When you pay a fake fucking Indian $400,000 per year to teach one course, of course it's going to be expensive. It’s better than paying a President $110,000,000.00 to play golf. Edited September 13, 2019 by Mainecat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSFB Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 3 hours ago, NaturallyAspirated said: Congress was and is secondary to the absurdity in cost of education. Congress would never have had to jump in if prices remained sane where even basic jobs could pay back the prices. Neal Prices started going thru the roof when Congress got involved and guaranteed the colleges an endless supply of money. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 10 minutes ago, SSFB said: Prices started going thru the roof when Congress got involved and guaranteed the colleges an endless supply of money. Other way round. They had no problems with an endless money supply before Congress. Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSFB Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 1 minute ago, NaturallyAspirated said: Other way round. They had no problems with an endless money supply before Congress. Neal There's no such thing as an endless money supply unless it's the government doing the funding with funny money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Just now, SSFB said: There's no such thing as an endless money supply unless it's the government doing the funding with funny money. Wrong. People were not getting shut out of loans before Congress came in. The costs across all institutions went up more from 1985-2005 than from 2005-2015. Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSFB Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 1 minute ago, NaturallyAspirated said: Wrong. People were not getting shut out of loans before Congress came in. The costs across all institutions went up more from 1985-2005 than from 2005-2015. Neal So you're comparing a 20 year window to a 10 year window? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Just now, SSFB said: So you're comparing a 20 year window to a 10 year window? Yeah. It does show that prices were increasing well before government got in. It has never been a linear increase. Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Or better yet what are we calling government funding and when it started, because the government has dabbled in funding for a long time. Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 5 minutes ago, NaturallyAspirated said: Wrong. People were not getting shut out of loans before Congress came in. The costs across all institutions went up more from 1985-2005 than from 2005-2015. Neal College cost increase for a number of reasons. Slashing money received from government. Increased salaries for teachers. Add on faculty, counselors and various other tack on ons including healthcare workers. increased administration costs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Just now, spin_dry said: College cost increase for a number of reasons. Slashing money received from government. Increased salaries for teachers. Add on faculty, counselors and various other tack on ons including healthcare workers. increased administration costs. Indeed, it wasn't just a government funding trigger. Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Just now, NaturallyAspirated said: Indeed, it wasn't just a government funding trigger. Neal The salaries of teachers haven’t increased anymore than other professions so that’s a non-changeable. Perhaps some major cuts to auxiliary personnel, utilizing students for more pay for services, larger class sizes, and streamlining administration is in order. Let’s not forget about the silly cost of college sports. Get rid of those sports programs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 1 minute ago, spin_dry said: The salaries of teachers haven’t increased anymore than other professions so that’s a non-changeable. Perhaps some major cuts to auxiliary personnel, utilizing students for more pay for services, larger class sizes, and streamlining administration is in order. Let’s not forget about the silly cost of college sports. Get rid of those sports programs Extra curricular, administration, endowment growth, facility upgrades. Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 1 minute ago, NaturallyAspirated said: Extra curricular, administration, endowment growth, facility upgrades. Neal The quality of education is still intact. American universities have an excellent core. It’s all the tack on shit that’s accumulated over the years that drives up costs. Student services is out of control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSFB Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 12 minutes ago, spin_dry said: The salaries of teachers haven’t increased anymore than other professions so that’s a non-changeable. Perhaps some major cuts to auxiliary personnel, utilizing students for more pay for services, larger class sizes, and streamlining administration is in order. Let’s not forget about the silly cost of college sports. Get rid of those sports programs I worked at a public university for 7 years. As the fiscal conservative, the attitudes around spending in those environments is disgusting. The teacher salaries are not the problem, at least here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F3600 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 4 hours ago, NaturallyAspirated said: Congress was and is secondary to the absurdity in cost of education. Congress would never have had to jump in if prices remained sane where even basic jobs could pay back the prices. Neal Very true, but I view them more as a coordinated effort to enrich the education industry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, SSFB said: I worked at a public university for 7 years. As the fiscal conservative, the attitudes around spending in those environments is disgusting. It all comes out of committee. The continuous tack on of student services. Some loud mouth idiot with a raging personality disorder pushes for an idea to increase student services. It could be additional mental health services, health services, or additional funding for a new sports program. The idea never gets challenged because of a fear factor. I’ve been in those committees with the nutcases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSFB Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, spin_dry said: It all comes out of committee. The continuous tack on of student services. Some loud mouth idiot with a raging personality disorder pushes for an idea to increase student services. It could be additional mental health services, health services, or additional funding for a new sports program. The idea never gets challenged because of a fear factor. I’ve been in those committees with the nutcases. Well yeah, it makes sense to let the students make all the decisions, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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