awful knawful Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Rapid Anus said: Nope 155? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted August 13, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted August 13, 2019 5 hours ago, f7ben said: No they arent.....20 maybe. That 207hp was such a line of bullshit. They dyno upper 180s low 190s at best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 Just now, Highmark said: You need to see dyno sheets from the best in the biz? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted August 13, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted August 13, 2019 1 minute ago, f7ben said: You need to see dyno sheets from the best in the biz? And just who is that in your opinion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Highmark said: And just who is that in your opinion? I think all the shops have a handle on the sleds. The sled shops make their money off the sleds though. It's a hobby for EvoPS and they have experience working on platforms significantly more complicated and expensive than sleds. They saw 181hp fresh out of the crate and 187 after break in. EVP Dynos the Production 17 Sidewinder/TCAT https://www.hardcoresledder.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1624602 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted August 13, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted August 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, f7ben said: I think all the shops have a handle on the sleds. The sled shops make their money off the sleds though. It's a hobby for EvoPS and they have experience working on platforms significantly more complicated and expensive than sleds. They saw 181hp fresh out of the crate and 187 after break in. EVP Dynos the Production 17 Sidewinder/TCAT https://www.hardcoresledder.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1624602 Yeah some companies like to show low baseline to show larger gains. Very common using uncorrected warm air numbers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, Highmark said: Yeah some companies like to show low baseline to show larger gains. Very common using uncorrected warm air numbers. They didnt show larger gains. They in fact showed less.power with their exhaust than other companies were claiming as baseline. That's because they dont pump numbers to whore out tunes and parts like say Hurricane or Bikeman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awful knawful Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 20 minutes ago, f7ben said: I think all the shops have a handle on the sleds. The sled shops make their money off the sleds though. It's a hobby for EvoPS and they have experience working on platforms significantly more complicated and expensive than sleds. They saw 181hp fresh out of the crate and 187 after break in. EVP Dynos the Production 17 Sidewinder/TCAT https://www.hardcoresledder.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1624602 Evo are good yes. But like you said it's a hobby. That sled on Evo Dyno could be 205 on dtr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 Just now, awful knawful said: Evo are good yes. But like you said it's a hobby. That sled on Evo Dyno could be 205 on dtr. Exactly....but dtr pumps numbers. They always have. It's pretty pathetic actually. Hurricane pumps numbers worse than dtr as well. Race results and speeds dont lie. Like Hurricanes stupid ass 200hp 900 Ace. It runs about even with 185hp sleds because that's what it's making for power Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtssrx Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 1 hour ago, f7ben said: So 152 on a real dyno. Got it Exactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtssrx Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 15 minutes ago, f7ben said: Exactly....but dtr pumps numbers. They always have. It's pretty pathetic actually. Hurricane pumps numbers worse than dtr as well. Race results and speeds dont lie. Like Hurricanes stupid ass 200hp 900 Ace. It runs about even with 185hp sleds because that's what it's making for power One of the best tuners I know Joe Haack swares by Hurricanes tunes but he’s bot a joker he knows how to dial in a sled and he knows Daves stuff is on the edge. Joe did all of dynamites racings tuning for years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 1 minute ago, jtssrx said: One of the best tuners I know Joe Haack swares by Hurricanes tunes but he’s bot a joker he knows how to dial in a sled and he knows Daves stuff is on the edge. Joe did all of dynamites racings tuning for years I've had some dealings with Hurricane that were less than desirable but I'm sure their tunes are good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtssrx Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 7 minutes ago, f7ben said: I've had some dealings with Hurricane that were less than desirable but I'm sure their tunes are good. Dave is a dick head Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 1 minute ago, jtssrx said: Dave is a dick head Fucked me on currency conversion and was zero help when he sent me $3500 worth of fuel systems with zero instructions or setup info. I was less than impressed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awful knawful Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 37 minutes ago, f7ben said: Exactly....but dtr pumps numbers. They always have. It's pretty pathetic actually. Hurricane pumps numbers worse than dtr as well. Race results and speeds dont lie. Like Hurricanes stupid ass 200hp 900 Ace. It runs about even with 185hp sleds because that's what it's making for power Except dtr dynos more sleds stock/ combos than any other. For this reason they have to be used as the standard. Different dynos, different days, may be off 10-20 hp. Which one is right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 1 minute ago, awful knawful said: Except dtr dynos more sleds stock/ combos than any other. For this reason they have to be used as the standard. Different dynos, different days, may be off 10-20 hp. Which one is right? With the history of manus sending ringers to dtr and him covering for them I wouldnt trust a thing out of that shop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 11 hours ago, J. Jackson said: Wrong. really ? ok my bad vintage class has a few non cats winning . fuck few more years the f7 will be vintage and cleaning up the vintage and 7 and 8 and modified 8 classes . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awful knawful Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 9 hours ago, f7ben said: With the history of manus sending ringers to dtr and him covering for them I wouldnt trust a thing out of that shop. He just dynos what they send him. How's him supposed to know it's a ringer till he dynos a customer's sled? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 Just now, awful knawful said: He just dynos what they send him. How's him supposed to know it's a ringer till he dynos a customer's sled? Because hes been doing this long enough and made to look like an asshole enough times to start to throw cold water on these prepro sleds that get people all excited and plopping down their cash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awful knawful Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 Just now, f7ben said: Because hes been doing this long enough and made to look like an asshole enough times to start to throw cold water on these prepro sleds that get people all excited and plopping down their cash. To me the manufacturer looks like the douche. Big promises, then sends out consumer duds. It's traditional now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 11 minutes ago, awful knawful said: To me the manufacturer looks like the douche. Big promises, then sends out consumer duds. It's traditional now. If the manus sent out sleds with the hp they claimed, they’d be blowing up all over the trails. Well, maybe poo is being the honest one I guess. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. Jackson Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 9 hours ago, Ez ryder said: really ? ok my bad vintage class has a few non cats winning . fuck few more years the f7 will be vintage and cleaning up the vintage and 7 and 8 and modified 8 classes . At Haydays for example, out of 28 classes, non vintage, Cat won 11. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 31 minutes ago, awful knawful said: To me the manufacturer looks like the douche. Big promises, then sends out consumer duds. It's traditional now. I understand that and agree.....but DTR has allowed thenselves to become integral to the pump. Its garbage. I'm not questioning his ability to operate a dyno. Gains on his dyno are similar to others. His baseline numbers have always been high though and he works hand in hand on pumping manus bullshit propaganda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, f7ben said: I understand that and agree.....but DTR has allowed thenselves to become integral to the pump. Its garbage. I'm not questioning his ability to operate a dyno. Gains on his dyno are similar to others. His baseline numbers have always been high though and he works hand in hand on pumping manus bullshit propaganda Isn’t he the one that has the paid subscription to his website to get info and dyno live feed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 6 minutes ago, Zambroski said: Isn’t he the one that has the paid subscription to his website to get info and dyno live feed? Yes....and every year hes the go to where manus bring hot setups to pump numbers. He puts out articles every year blah blah blah blah. You know the rest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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